Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 > > > > > >> > >> > Gene, TB, and other kettlebellers, >> > >> > Anyone ever use these? >> > >> > http://www.kettlestack.com/ >> > > , > > ³No way. Looks like a great idea but it's lousy in practice. Nobody > wants to switch out plates between sets so it gets used as a regular > bell would, except it ain't got that swing. > > Do you know of what material the handles are made? > It looks questionable in the pic. > > Having assisted at (n) kettlebell seminars and seen innumerable > varieties of bells, I say the Dragon Door bells are the best I've > seen. There is another make out there almost the same but the handle's > are even a little fatter, maybe. Not sure who makes them or if I'm > imagining it. > > Other makes usually have impractical handle shapes--generally too > narrow--but one had a coarse surface for some unimaginable reason, > presumably for traction but gee, that was a bloody mess. > B.² > > What about www.uskettlebells.com. Those look pretty good to me. I am also > interested in kettlebells that Valery Fedorkenko has apparently designed, > though I haven¹t found them online yet. Fedorenko is a former world champion > from Russia, now living in the U .S. > > I tried some genuine Russian competition kettlebells, and the handles were > slightly thinner than the Dragondoor kettlebells. I found that it made it > easier to do snatches with a heavy bell. I have small hands, and I prefer a > slightly thinner handle. I have at least one of the 16, 20, 24, 32, and 40 kg > bells, and frankly find the quality quite variable. Some of them are smooth, > and some are so rough as to necessitate filing/sanding to do snatches without > ripping up my hands. > > I also, at this point, am absolutely boycotting dragondoor products. Pavel is > quite blatantly a right wing advocate of U.S. Military actions, and I refuse > to support him, and the rest of the insane, militaristic dragondoor groupies. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 >I prefer a >> slightly thinner handle. I have at least one of the 16, 20, 24, >32, and 40 kg >> bells, and frankly find the quality quite variable. Some of them >are smooth, >> and some are so rough as to necessitate filing/sanding to do >snatches without >> ripping up my hands. Why don't you just wear gloves? That's what I do. I got them after a callous opened up from doing snatches. It prevented me from doing my usual workout for several days, so I got gloves and have been very happy with them. Suze P.S. Your posts are hard to follow because there are backquotes in front of everything you write. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 >Why don't you just wear gloves? That's what I do. I got them after >a callous >opened up from doing snatches. It prevented me from doing my usual workout >for several days, so I got gloves and have been very happy with them. BTW, I should note that I use Dragon Door kettlebells, so haven't tried the gloves on rough handles. The smooth DD handles were causing the callouses. If you find a good source of quality KBs other than DD, please post it. I still haven't bought my own set yet, but will someday. Suze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 > > > > > > >> > Why don't you just wear gloves? That's what I do. I got them after a > callous >> > opened up from doing snatches. It prevented me from doing my usual > workout >> > for several days, so I got gloves and have been very happy with them. >> > >> > > ³Suze, > Real kettlebellers don't wear gloves. Gloves impede developing grip > strength. Callouses rip off when the hands aren't properly cared for; > keep them filed down with an emery board. > > Not that you can't wear gloves if you like, but you can't be hardcore. > (Like Gene.) > B.² > > Got lost in the double negatives, but I just don¹t think that gloves work > that well for snatches. I tried these special gloves when I has having callous > trouble and it was the only time that I lost the grip on a kettlebell in my > apt. It provided a truly scary moment. You just don¹t have the same feel with > gloves, and I don¹t think they work as well for swing/snatch related > exercises. > > I don¹t consider myself hardcore, and I think that there should be no pride in > all of this if something works for you, you should do it. But proper > technique works better than anything else in preventing callouses from doing > you in doing snatches and swings. I¹ve personally never found that filing > callouses down, or swearing at them (which can be fun, but very loud) does > much good. It could be because I¹m just n ot good at that kind of maintenance. > > I think that gloves work fine as long as your using a weight that is VERY > easy. When using a weight that isn¹t that easy, you want more of a hands on > feel. That is just entirely my own personal opinion. There are no rules and > this whole macho notion of a Œreal kettlebeller¹ is ridiculous. But I do think > that gloves won¹t get you that far. > > You want as much as possible to use the proper grip, rotate the kettlebell > properly, etc some of the gs techniques to avoid ripping your hands apart. > As if I²m an expert or anything. Hell, I²ve been banned from the Dragondoor > forum. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 >Suze, >Real kettlebellers don't wear gloves. Gloves impede developing grip >strength. Callouses rip off when the hands aren't properly cared for; > keep them filed down with an emery board. > >Not that you can't wear gloves if you like, but you can't be hardcore. >(Like Gene.) > B. OIC. I haven't noticed any reduction in grip strength, but then I haven't given it any thought. I'm currently using a light weight for snatches, but my trainer just ordered a 25 lber. (or whatever that size is between 8 and 16 kgs) and that'll be more challenging for me. I've been using an 8 kg weight for snatches. I've also been using the gloves for clean and push presses with a challenging weight - 16 kgs and it's true that my cleans haven't been great form, and I think this, plus the snatches is where I got the callouses. I'll talk to my trainer about gloves impeding grip strength and maybe try without for a bit as my clean form has improved dramatically in the last few weeks. Suze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Wanita <wanitawa@...> > > > > > > > Anyone ever use these? > > > > > > http://www.kettlestack.com/ > > > > > , > > > > No way. Looks like a great idea but it's lousy in practice. Nobody > > wants to switch out plates between sets so it gets used as a regular > > bell would, except it ain't got that swing. > > I don't understand " ain't got that swing " , what do you mean ? > > Thanks, > BJ It don't mean a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > Anyone ever use these? >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > http://www.kettlestack.com/ >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: " bil7jenkins " <bil7jenkins@...> > > > >>>>> > > > > Anyone ever use these? > > >>>>> > > > > http://www.kettlestack.com/ > > >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 - >Callouses rip off when the hands aren't properly cared for; >keep them filed down with an emery board. You mean I'm supposed to be filing my palms? Seriously? Methinks I'll pass... - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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