Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 > > Ok, so ever since someone who peeks her head into this list now and > then got taken away in an ambulance due to scombroid poisoning from > salmon... > Iirc that was a self-diagnosis. Not that it wasn't scombroid, but scombroid was suggested to her post-incident and she read up on it on the web. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 On 9/17/06, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote: > Iirc that was a self-diagnosis. Not that it wasn't scombroid, but > scombroid was suggested to her post-incident and she read up on it on > the web. You're right. Let me rephrase: " Ok, so ever since someone who peeks her head into this list now and then got taken away in an ambulance due to what may have been scombroid poisoning from salmon, and I thereby became aware of the fact that histamine can accumulate in salmon... " Chris -- The Truth About Cholesterol Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 > You're right. Let me rephrase: > > " Ok, so ever since someone who peeks her head into this list now and > then got taken away in an ambulance due to what may have been > scombroid poisoning from salmon, and I thereby became aware of the > fact that histamine can accumulate in salmon... " > Whoa, I didn't realize " scombroid poisoning " was another term for histamine poisoning. When that thing happened, it seemed to me the focus was on the bacterial level in the fish (so I thought scombroid was some sort of bacteria or something) not the overall amine level in her diet, which was primarily salmon, kraut, broccoli, red wine and dark chocolate iirc. Sorry. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 > Also, I've been thinking, and it seems that lemons, sauerkraut and > honey make my eczema worse. I make an apple/coconut dessert, fried in > coconut oil with cinnamon, and glommed together with honey and maple > syrup. I started using honey for SCD reasons, but recently I tried > maple syrup. Although I still don't think this desert is particularly > healthy for me, it doesn't aggravate my eczema as much with maple > syrup as with honey. Honey is loaded with salicylates, and I know I > react horribly to almonds and Pepto Bismol ironically gives me > diarrhea with a slamming hellish headache to boot. Cinnamon is a histamine issue, too. I think that's why I've often felt a bit cruddy after taking my CLO. I've switched to the orange flavor the past week (even though citrus is a problem, too) and it's been much better with me. I tend to use a lot of cinnamon, so I've been missing that somewhat. > > So I'm guessing that I'm intolerant to histamines and salicylates at a > minimum, in addition to dysbiosis. And, with my luck, I'm probably > celiac too. LOL. > > Chris Yeah, probably so! LOL. Pretty soon all we'll have left to eat is fat! And I still owe you (and ) responses on the other list. Sorry! -- http://www.PraiseMoves.com The Christian Alternative to Yoga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 On 9/17/06, Steph <gasteph7@...> wrote: > Yeah, probably so! LOL. Pretty soon all we'll have left to eat is fat! On the upside, a 100% fat diet would not be net acid-producing. Chris -- The Truth About Cholesterol Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 > So I'm guessing that I'm intolerant to histamines and salicylates at a > minimum, in addition to dysbiosis. And, with my luck, I'm probably > celiac too. LOL. > It's those monkey genes. Suze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 On 9/18/06, Emma Davies <emma@...> wrote: > Are you going to try the elimination/challenge diet? I don't know if I'm going to bother challenging myself with aspirin and get a three-day headache, but I'm going to at the least buy low-chemical foods beginning today and then gradually add back in the most important ones (like coconut oil) to see what I can tolerate. I might approach it more systematically with challenges too, not sure yet. I was thinking today, and I realized I don't think I've ever taken aspirin in my life. When I was a kid, I took children's tylenol on occasions, and there were a few rare incidents as a teenager where I took allieve or somthing like it, but don't think I've ever actually taken aspirin. Pepto Bismol may have been my first deliberate encounter with salicylates, about six months or so ago. It is recommended in gluten circles for recovery and resolution of dysbiosis. Ironically, this diarrhea medication gave me diarrhea or at least very loose stool, in direct proportion to the extent it made my stool black, which is an indicator of how much of the stuff was actually in that portion of stool (the bismuth, not the salicylate, but they go together). I had a slamming headache the entire time I was taking it for about three days -- and I never get headaches -- and the headache went away within a day of stopping it. Although it's possible I had a problem with the flavorings or the bismuth, I suspected it was the salicylate at the time and still do (my reasoning was that it could inhibit anti-inflammatory chemicals along with inflammatory chemicals if they share a common enzyme, like 2, though I'm not sure whether salicylate inhibits this enzyme or not). I just didn't realize there were salicylates in so many foods, and always thought my reaction to almonds was a nut allergy. > On the one side > you might gain a better tolerance of dairy, grains, and potatoes after > a while... on the other side you might end up like my friend belle > and resort to going completely carnivorous... I'm hoping maybe I will have to drink less water, and maybe avoiding tyramine will finish resolving some symptoms of an overactive nervous system. I still have the dysbiosis issue, so I think it will be a while before I can tolerate dairy, grains or potatoes, but the histamine connection to dysbiosis is pretty interesting -- that carbs can cause intestinal bacteria to make more histamine. > But hey! If this works out, there's a good chance your eczema will get > better! Actually, my eczema isn't bad at all now. There was a time when it covered from my fingers to my shoulders on both arms, a large patch on the left side of my torso, and the tops of both thighs. Right now it's just on my fingers a little. Chris -- The Truth About Cholesterol Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 On 9/19/06, Emma Davies <emma@...> wrote: > I forgot to mention - honey is very very high in salicylates - one of > the most concentrated sources, and also contains variable quantities > of amines (bee hormones I guess), so not surprising to get a reaction > to it. There is someone on another list who is trying to figure out why her kids consistently react to honey, but do not react to berries and spices that are high in salicylates. Her food experiments with them are very well-controlled, but she adds a food rather than replacing other foods with it, so when she adds honey, they're eating berries, spices *plus* honey. But she doesn't limit the berries or high-salicylate spices they can eat, and they sometimes eat a real lot with no apparent reaction. They react to a lot of foods, I think they have leaky gut issues, and usually the reactions are behavioral and if they persist will become gastrointestinal. They have no problem with other sweeteners. Any thoughts? Chris -- The Truth About Cholesterol Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Chris- >They react to a lot of foods, I think they >have leaky gut issues, and usually the reactions are behavioral and if >they persist will become gastrointestinal. They have no problem with >other sweeteners. Any thoughts? By " other sweeteners " do you mean sugar? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 On 9/19/06, Idol <Idol@...> wrote: > By " other sweeteners " do you mean sugar? I don't know if they use sugar or not, but maple syrup is ok, and maybe other natural sweeteners. Chris -- The Truth About Cholesterol Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Quercitin is a natural antihistamine in your body, so you could try that. I think you need to take it several times a day though. Check out some review on vitacost.com, iherb.com and others. Or Claritin, Zyrtec, etc. Sometimes I have to rely on meds. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:55 AM, thinkingheads@... < thinkingheads@...> wrote: > is there a vitamin/supp that reduces histimines? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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