RE: triglycerides (was: causes of inflammation)

[Guest guest]

> > Also, is there any real danger of high serum triglycerides? Or is

that

> > notion as nonsensical as the lipid hypothesis? I know I should

know this,

> > but I forgot!

Suze,

I don't know the answer to your question, but my triglycerides sure

changed with a change in diet. Here are my numbers:

On 8/94 (eating SAD), triglycerides were 142.

On 11/96 (eating SAD and *very* stressed at the time), 190

On 7/02 (eating 2 yrs strict macrobiotic, high complex carbs, protein

was vegetable & some fish, oils were olive & sesame, but this got me

off all processed foods & sugar), 91

On 2/04 (after 2 yrs NT animal protein, animal fat, added CLO;

probably wasn't doing a lot of fermented, broths, organ meats yet,

almost no sugar), 26 (yes, 26!)

On 7/04 (same diet as previous), 52 (doubled from 5 months prior)

Over the same time period, my total cholesterol was significantly

lower on SAD and macro, and increased on NT. Both HDL and LDL

increased on NT. Ratio decreased from 3.5 (11/96 SAD diet) to 2.6

(7/04 NT diet).

I believe in Wise Traditions they said that some people's cholesterol

increases on an NT diet and some people's decreases and they don't

think it matters. (I know you know this, just putting it in for any

newbie lurkers.) I thought it was interesting, though, to see the

changes in my numbers as I changed my diet, *particularly* the

triglycerides since that was such a significant reduction.

A friend who's read Atkins told me that he said triglycerides were

the only # that were important in terms of heart disease and that

fish oils would help bring them down. (It could be that my friend

reported this wrong or that I remember wrong, but this is my

recollection.)

[Guest guest]

>I believe in Wise Traditions they said that some people's cholesterol

>increases on an NT diet and some people's decreases and they don't

>think it matters. (I know you know this, just putting it in for any

>newbie lurkers.) I thought it was interesting, though, to see the

>changes in my numbers as I changed my diet, *particularly* the

>triglycerides since that was such a significant reduction.

Thanks , for the interesting data points. Your numbers suggest that

maybe high riglycerides aren't the greatest thing (for humans, at least, or

maybe just for *you*, I don't know).

>A friend who's read Atkins told me that he said triglycerides were

>the only # that were important in terms of heart disease and that

>fish oils would help bring them down. (It could be that my friend

>reported this wrong or that I remember wrong, but this is my

>recollection.)

The fish oils being good for heart disease idea is something I think I've

heard before. I guess though, that Atkins wasn't reading this list though,

since we've discussed the dangers of fish oil ad nauseum! And the dangers

extend to the heart.

Suze Fisher

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Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

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heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

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