Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Hi Don, Not sure if this could be your problem but from what it sounds to me your two year old has the same issue as my little sister who had eczema since a very young age until recently when she had treatment on her candida and parasites she was exposed to, (She is seven now). Our natropath who helped her detox and healing said her small bumps showing up on her face was the candida coming through her facial tissue. Her bumps increased while doing detox but then died off when finished. My sister had to cut off all dairy regardless the quality and all gluten grains during her cleansing stage. Maybe cutting out oats and kefir for a bit and maybe check her for candida/parasites. I don't know if this helps but it was the first thing I thought of. > > > > Hi Group, > > > I am new to this group as of Dec 2005 and have read some great posts here. > > I have a 2.5 year old who has had excema on her cheeks for the past few > weeks. My wife has been putting lotion on it but it has not cleared. She > thinks it may be eggs or the dairy. I don't know about that. > > For the week my wife was out of town, I didn't put any lotion on it and it > didn't clear up and was about the same. I thought it maybe the lotion and > the chemicals in it. > > I eat and cook 99% Nourishing Traditions. And so do my kids. I don't eat > refined, processed, or conventional foods and don't serve it to her. Here > is what she eats: > Farmer eggs, > Raw milk made into kefir 1/2-1 cups per day. > Raw cheese and butter > Coconut oil, olive oil. > NUTS- almonds, almond butter, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds > Whole grains of every type, not too much wheat. Lots of quinoa and millet, > oats for breakfast. (No boxed cereals at all) Hot porage for breakfast. > Green veggies of many types and carrots, Etc... > Meats, lamb, chicken, fish, and hamburger -yes even liver and hearts I sneak > into the meat loaf. She eats it. > Homemade sauerkraut (she loves it) > Fruits, apples, bananas, etc... blueberries, strawberries, > > She does have a some boxed rice crackers, some store bought breads with > yeast and cane sugar, pasteurized yogurt and cheese on occasion. > > > My question: What can be causing the excema? And > What natural lotions can I put on it to try before we take her to a > Naturopathic doctor? > > > I know there are many families with kids that read this. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks > Don > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Hello, I am new too, haven't posted an intro yet, but my name is Tana and I live in Minnesota. I've been feeding my family organic foods for several years but am just now getting into more of a nourishing traditions type diet. My son had eczema as a baby and when he got older we realized it was a sign of food allergies. If I had known, I would have stopped eating these things myself (I was nursing). The pediatrician never mentioned food allergies, just gave us creams. Now he is severely allergic to peanuts and eggs. Mild temperature baths every evening helped, with moisturizer afterward (try melted coconut oil!) and an elimination diet can help you figure out what is causing it. I would try eliminating the eggs first! Tana 2 year old with excema on cheeks, ideas? Hi Group, I am new to this group as of Dec 2005 and have read some great posts here. I have a 2.5 year old who has had excema on her cheeks for the past few weeks. My wife has been putting lotion on it but it has not cleared. She thinks it may be eggs or the dairy. I don't know about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 I have some excema, and my doctor prescribed some steroid cream which helped. I just keep it on hand now for flareups, and mainly use coconut oil as an ointment. I eat lots of raw organic grassfed dairy, and lots of eggs from pastured hends, and I don't think, in me at least, that this is the cause. My father and sister also have excema, as did my grandmother, so it seems hereditary. But I have far less -- just a little on the back of my neck, whereas the rest of the family has it all over, hands, scalp, face, arms. So I do believe the WAP way of eating is a big help, because they don't follow that. Ann > > > > Hi Group, > > > I am new to this group as of Dec 2005 and have read some great posts here. > > I have a 2.5 year old who has had excema on her cheeks for the past few > weeks. My wife has been putting lotion on it but it has not cleared. She > thinks it may be eggs or the dairy. I don't know about that. > > For the week my wife was out of town, I didn't put any lotion on it and it > didn't clear up and was about the same. I thought it maybe the lotion and > the chemicals in it. > > I eat and cook 99% Nourishing Traditions. And so do my kids. I don't eat > refined, processed, or conventional foods and don't serve it to her. Here > is what she eats: > Farmer eggs, > Raw milk made into kefir 1/2-1 cups per day. > Raw cheese and butter > Coconut oil, olive oil. > NUTS- almonds, almond butter, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds > Whole grains of every type, not too much wheat. Lots of quinoa and millet, > oats for breakfast. (No boxed cereals at all) Hot porage for breakfast. > Green veggies of many types and carrots, Etc... > Meats, lamb, chicken, fish, and hamburger -yes even liver and hearts I sneak > into the meat loaf. She eats it. > Homemade sauerkraut (she loves it) > Fruits, apples, bananas, etc... blueberries, strawberries, > > She does have a some boxed rice crackers, some store bought breads with > yeast and cane sugar, pasteurized yogurt and cheese on occasion. > > > My question: What can be causing the excema? And > What natural lotions can I put on it to try before we take her to a > Naturopathic doctor? > > > I know there are many families with kids that read this. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks > Don > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 I am a little curious about this. My question is are you sure it is eczema? Do you live up in the cold climates? I know a lot of children get raw skin, especially on the cheeks and noses up in the colder climates. Then I have also seen that happen with children who rub their faces on their blankets in their sleep which also means they could be allergic to the fabric or even the detergent used to wash their bedding or maybe even an allergy to their bath soap. This may not be of help but these things could be affecting her. I started to get eczema when I went into menopause on my face but since switching to WAP it has totally gone away. I have read Dr. Cowan's book and he says most eczema is adrenal gland related but she is kind of young for that and she has had a good diet. Keep us informed on what happens. Allyn _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of annbekins Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:40 PM Subject: Re: 2 year old with excema on cheeks, ideas? I have some excema, and my doctor prescribed some steroid cream which helped. I just keep it on hand now for flareups, and mainly use coconut oil as an ointment. I eat lots of raw organic grassfed dairy, and lots of eggs from pastured hends, and I don't think, in me at least, that this is the cause. My father and sister also have excema, as did my grandmother, so it seems hereditary. But I have far less -- just a little on the back of my neck, whereas the rest of the family has it all over, hands, scalp, face, arms. So I do believe the WAP way of eating is a big help, because they don't follow that. Ann > > > > Hi Group, > > > I am new to this group as of Dec 2005 and have read some great posts here. > > I have a 2.5 year old who has had excema on her cheeks for the past few > weeks. My wife has been putting lotion on it but it has not cleared. She > thinks it may be eggs or the dairy. I don't know about that. > > For the week my wife was out of town, I didn't put any lotion on it and it > didn't clear up and was about the same. I thought it maybe the lotion and > the chemicals in it. > > I eat and cook 99% Nourishing Traditions. And so do my kids. I don't eat > refined, processed, or conventional foods and don't serve it to her. Here > is what she eats: > Farmer eggs, > Raw milk made into kefir 1/2-1 cups per day. > Raw cheese and butter > Coconut oil, olive oil. > NUTS- almonds, almond butter, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds > Whole grains of every type, not too much wheat. Lots of quinoa and millet, > oats for breakfast. (No boxed cereals at all) Hot porage for breakfast. > Green veggies of many types and carrots, Etc... > Meats, lamb, chicken, fish, and hamburger -yes even liver and hearts I sneak > into the meat loaf. She eats it. > Homemade sauerkraut (she loves it) > Fruits, apples, bananas, etc... blueberries, strawberries, > > She does have a some boxed rice crackers, some store bought breads with > yeast and cane sugar, pasteurized yogurt and cheese on occasion. > > > My question: What can be causing the excema? And > What natural lotions can I put on it to try before we take her to a > Naturopathic doctor? > > > I know there are many families with kids that read this. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks > Don > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Let her have as much natural salt as she likes, as many on the salt/c protocol notice that their eczema clears up. The salt will clear out any pathogens trying to live on/in the skin. A woman with terrible skin (eczema and acne) tried it and her face cleared up in a few weeks. Another thing you can try is putting raw apple cider vinegar (diluted) on it - this clears up many skin problems beautifully. I put it in the bath water now for my son who is very rashy and it always clears up the rashes by morning. 2 cups vinegar in the tub. She can also drink it if she like it - try a teaspoon of vinegar and a teaspoon of raw honey in some warm water. Some kids like it and some don't. > > > > Hi Group, > > > I am new to this group as of Dec 2005 and have read some great posts here. > > I have a 2.5 year old who has had excema on her cheeks for the past few > weeks. My wife has been putting lotion on it but it has not cleared. She > thinks it may be eggs or the dairy. I don't know about that. > > For the week my wife was out of town, I didn't put any lotion on it and it > didn't clear up and was about the same. I thought it maybe the lotion and > the chemicals in it. > > I eat and cook 99% Nourishing Traditions. And so do my kids. I don't eat > refined, processed, or conventional foods and don't serve it to her. Here > is what she eats: > Farmer eggs, > Raw milk made into kefir 1/2-1 cups per day. > Raw cheese and butter > Coconut oil, olive oil. > NUTS- almonds, almond butter, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds > Whole grains of every type, not too much wheat. Lots of quinoa and millet, > oats for breakfast. (No boxed cereals at all) Hot porage for breakfast. > Green veggies of many types and carrots, Etc... > Meats, lamb, chicken, fish, and hamburger -yes even liver and hearts I sneak > into the meat loaf. She eats it. > Homemade sauerkraut (she loves it) > Fruits, apples, bananas, etc... blueberries, strawberries, > > She does have a some boxed rice crackers, some store bought breads with > yeast and cane sugar, pasteurized yogurt and cheese on occasion. > > > My question: What can be causing the excema? And > What natural lotions can I put on it to try before we take her to a > Naturopathic doctor? > > > I know there are many families with kids that read this. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks > Don > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 There is a lot of evidence that steroids can be pretty harmful, I wouldn't give them to a child except as a last resort. Some say they can cause permanent brain damage/personality changes. > > > > > > > > Hi Group, > > > > > > I am new to this group as of Dec 2005 and have read some great posts > here. > > > > I have a 2.5 year old who has had excema on her cheeks for the past few > > weeks. My wife has been putting lotion on it but it has not > cleared. She > > thinks it may be eggs or the dairy. I don't know about that. > > > > For the week my wife was out of town, I didn't put any lotion on it > and it > > didn't clear up and was about the same. I thought it maybe the > lotion and > > the chemicals in it. > > > > I eat and cook 99% Nourishing Traditions. And so do my kids. I > don't eat > > refined, processed, or conventional foods and don't serve it to her. > Here > > is what she eats: > > Farmer eggs, > > Raw milk made into kefir 1/2-1 cups per day. > > Raw cheese and butter > > Coconut oil, olive oil. > > NUTS- almonds, almond butter, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds > > Whole grains of every type, not too much wheat. Lots of quinoa and > millet, > > oats for breakfast. (No boxed cereals at all) Hot porage for breakfast. > > Green veggies of many types and carrots, Etc... > > Meats, lamb, chicken, fish, and hamburger -yes even liver and hearts > I sneak > > into the meat loaf. She eats it. > > Homemade sauerkraut (she loves it) > > Fruits, apples, bananas, etc... blueberries, strawberries, > > > > She does have a some boxed rice crackers, some store bought breads with > > yeast and cane sugar, pasteurized yogurt and cheese on occasion. > > > > > > My question: What can be causing the excema? And > > What natural lotions can I put on it to try before we take her to a > > Naturopathic doctor? > > > > > > I know there are many families with kids that read this. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks > > Don > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 You may well be right, although it was topical, not ingested -- can steroids be absorbed through the skin? I suppose they can, since progesterone creams work. I am interested in the post about cider vinegar -- with the next flare up, I will try that instead of the steroid cream, and maybe coconut oil with it. Sounds much less risky. Ann > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Group, > > > > > > > > > I am new to this group as of Dec 2005 and have read some great > posts > > here. > > > > > > I have a 2.5 year old who has had excema on her cheeks for the > past few > > > weeks. My wife has been putting lotion on it but it has not > > cleared. She > > > thinks it may be eggs or the dairy. I don't know about that. > > > > > > For the week my wife was out of town, I didn't put any lotion on > it > > and it > > > didn't clear up and was about the same. I thought it maybe the > > lotion and > > > the chemicals in it. > > > > > > I eat and cook 99% Nourishing Traditions. And so do my kids. I > > don't eat > > > refined, processed, or conventional foods and don't serve it to > her. > > Here > > > is what she eats: > > > Farmer eggs, > > > Raw milk made into kefir 1/2-1 cups per day. > > > Raw cheese and butter > > > Coconut oil, olive oil. > > > NUTS- almonds, almond butter, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds > > > Whole grains of every type, not too much wheat. Lots of quinoa > and > > millet, > > > oats for breakfast. (No boxed cereals at all) Hot porage for > breakfast. > > > Green veggies of many types and carrots, Etc... > > > Meats, lamb, chicken, fish, and hamburger -yes even liver and > hearts > > I sneak > > > into the meat loaf. She eats it. > > > Homemade sauerkraut (she loves it) > > > Fruits, apples, bananas, etc... blueberries, strawberries, > > > > > > She does have a some boxed rice crackers, some store bought > breads with > > > yeast and cane sugar, pasteurized yogurt and cheese on occasion. > > > > > > > > > My question: What can be causing the excema? And > > > What natural lotions can I put on it to try before we take her > to a > > > Naturopathic doctor? > > > > > > > > > I know there are many families with kids that read this. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Don > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 I wonder what diluted kombucha would do for it? Allyn _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of haecklers Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:11 PM Subject: Re: 2 year old with excema on cheeks, ideas? Let her have as much natural salt as she likes, as many on the salt/c protocol notice that their eczema clears up. The salt will clear out any pathogens trying to live on/in the skin. A woman with terrible skin (eczema and acne) tried it and her face cleared up in a few weeks. Another thing you can try is putting raw apple cider vinegar (diluted) on it - this clears up many skin problems beautifully. I put it in the bath water now for my son who is very rashy and it always clears up the rashes by morning. 2 cups vinegar in the tub. She can also drink it if she like it - try a teaspoon of vinegar and a teaspoon of raw honey in some warm water. Some kids like it and some don't. > > > > Hi Group, > > > I am new to this group as of Dec 2005 and have read some great posts here. > > I have a 2.5 year old who has had excema on her cheeks for the past few > weeks. My wife has been putting lotion on it but it has not cleared. She > thinks it may be eggs or the dairy. I don't know about that. > > For the week my wife was out of town, I didn't put any lotion on it and it > didn't clear up and was about the same. I thought it maybe the lotion and > the chemicals in it. > > I eat and cook 99% Nourishing Traditions. And so do my kids. I don't eat > refined, processed, or conventional foods and don't serve it to her. Here > is what she eats: > Farmer eggs, > Raw milk made into kefir 1/2-1 cups per day. > Raw cheese and butter > Coconut oil, olive oil. > NUTS- almonds, almond butter, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds > Whole grains of every type, not too much wheat. Lots of quinoa and millet, > oats for breakfast. (No boxed cereals at all) Hot porage for breakfast. > Green veggies of many types and carrots, Etc... > Meats, lamb, chicken, fish, and hamburger -yes even liver and hearts I sneak > into the meat loaf. She eats it. > Homemade sauerkraut (she loves it) > Fruits, apples, bananas, etc... blueberries, strawberries, > > She does have a some boxed rice crackers, some store bought breads with > yeast and cane sugar, pasteurized yogurt and cheese on occasion. > > > My question: What can be causing the excema? And > What natural lotions can I put on it to try before we take her to a > Naturopathic doctor? > > > I know there are many families with kids that read this. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks > Don > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 >>My son had eczema as a baby and when he got older we realized it was a sign of food allergies. Mild temperature baths every evening helped, with moisturizer afterward <<< My neice has it, but she is allergic to dyes and fragrances. So, she can't use regular soaps, lotions, perfumes,etc. christine T. ---------- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 3/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Yes, coconut oil is very helpful with skin conditions. I had some thing on my scalp, would get very itchy and one day I tried coconut oil on it. It got much worse that evening, but the next day was gone and didn't come back! Be sure to get organic coconut oil, that's food grade. You don't know what kind of preservatives they'll put in it otherwise. - Renate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this group as of Dec 2005 and have read some great > > posts > > > here. > > > > > > > > I have a 2.5 year old who has had excema on her cheeks for the > > past few > > > > weeks. My wife has been putting lotion on it but it has not > > > cleared. She > > > > thinks it may be eggs or the dairy. I don't know about that. > > > > > > > > For the week my wife was out of town, I didn't put any lotion on > > it > > > and it > > > > didn't clear up and was about the same. I thought it maybe the > > > lotion and > > > > the chemicals in it. > > > > > > > > I eat and cook 99% Nourishing Traditions. And so do my kids. I > > > don't eat > > > > refined, processed, or conventional foods and don't serve it to > > her. > > > Here > > > > is what she eats: > > > > Farmer eggs, > > > > Raw milk made into kefir 1/2-1 cups per day. > > > > Raw cheese and butter > > > > Coconut oil, olive oil. > > > > NUTS- almonds, almond butter, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds > > > > Whole grains of every type, not too much wheat. Lots of quinoa > > and > > > millet, > > > > oats for breakfast. (No boxed cereals at all) Hot porage for > > breakfast. > > > > Green veggies of many types and carrots, Etc... > > > > Meats, lamb, chicken, fish, and hamburger -yes even liver and > > hearts > > > I sneak > > > > into the meat loaf. She eats it. > > > > Homemade sauerkraut (she loves it) > > > > Fruits, apples, bananas, etc... blueberries, strawberries, > > > > > > > > She does have a some boxed rice crackers, some store bought > > breads with > > > > yeast and cane sugar, pasteurized yogurt and cheese on occasion. > > > > > > > > > > > > My question: What can be causing the excema? And > > > > What natural lotions can I put on it to try before we take her > > to a > > > > Naturopathic doctor? > > > > > > > > > > > > I know there are many families with kids that read this. > > > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Maybe a light application of coconut oil would help in addition of course to internal consumption. Phil RE: Re: 2 year old with excema on cheeks, ideas? I wonder what diluted kombucha would do for it? Allyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 My 16 month old has had a patch of eczema on the back of one of her legs since she was a few weeks old. I had tried everything on it, with no success. Recently I cut out all soap - and her eczema is gone - completely. The warm bath water is enough to get any dirt, food etc off her body and I wash her hair with baking soda and honey.... in fact we all use this. The other suggestion I have is to use real soap (commercial soaps are actually just detergents) for handwashing, when necessary. I have very,very dry skin and again tried everything on it with little success. When I switched to Dr. Bronner's bar soap I noticed an immediate change for the better. Later, as I became interested in soap-making, I found that SOAPS made with coconut oil are very harsh on the skin and are very drying (I don't think this is true at all for the application of coconut oil itself on the skin). Dr. Bronners soap is primarily made of coconut oil. So, my suggestion is to get a 100% olive oil soap at a local co-op, or better yet, find a source for 100% lard soap - or make your own!. I have been using lard soap for the last 4 months and my skin problems are non- existent. Hope this helps! - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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