Guest guest Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 I'm always tweaking my recipe and today it turned out better than I ever remember it. My recipe is below. I've included the brand of most of the ingredients that I use because I think the quality/brand makes a difference in the taste. 20 Tbsp. coconut oil (Nutiva - organic extra virgin) 4 Tbsp. red palm oil (Jungle Products - very distinct flavor - you won't get the same flavored candies using another palm oil. Sometimes I use more than 4 Tbsp.) 6 Tbsp. Cocoa powder (Green & Black organic) 1 1/2 cups dessicated coconut (bulk from HFS) 1 Tbps. + 1 tsp. royal jelly (Y.S. Organics - includes propolis, pollen, eleuthero, Korean ginseng and honey) 1 1/2 Tbsp. raw honey (I used local honey from friends. If you use Y.S. organics you might try less because their honey is incredibly sweet. Just adjust to taste.) 1/2 tsp. vanilla (Flavorganics, gluten-free) Mix everything in a food processor until smooth then transfer to ice cube trays. Store in fridge. I like them best when they've been sitting at room temp for a while, so I usually take them out before I eat a meal, then eat them after the meal. The palm oil, btw, makes the consistency softer and more silken than just using CO. Oh, and I also often put a crispy pecan on top of each candy in the ice cube tray. Goes well with almonds too! " Candy " seems like such an inappropriate term for these things, because they are a superfood in many ways. But that's what we've all been calling them so I guess it's entrenched. Oh, and if you eat a lot of this, better get an electric toothbrush and Chris' fancy toothpaste because rumor has it that chocolate stains teeth ;-) Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 I think I just discovered a way to make the homemade coconut candies without having to refrigerate them. I really like them because they are filling and very ***fat*** dense, which is necessary for my diet. For those of you on this list who weren't around when we were talking about these more often, Suze' recipe is below. The tweak I am going to make, which only dawned on me last night, is to add cocoa butter - duh! After all these are **chocolate** coconut candies, so why not use the fat from the same bean that chocolate is made from? There are other tweaks I have made to the recipe below: Add macadamia oil and nuts. Use raw cocoa nibs (the honey will mask the slightly bitter taste) instead of the cocoa powder. I like more of the royal four in mine - bee pollen, royal jelly, propolis, and honey - but keep in mind the bitterness factor and the price factor of royal jelly and propolis I start with a pile of coconut flakes as the base of my bar/candy - enough so the resulting mixture is very stiff - like an almond joy bar :-) Cocoa butter is solid at room temperature so it should be interesting. I will let everyone know how it turns out. On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 3:59 PM, Suze Fisher <s.fisher22@...> wrote: > I'm always tweaking my recipe and today it turned out better than I ever > remember it. My recipe is below. I've included the brand of most of the > ingredients that I use because I think the quality/brand makes a difference > in the taste. > > > 20 Tbsp. coconut oil (Nutiva - organic extra virgin) > 4 Tbsp. red palm oil (Jungle Products - very distinct flavor - you won't get > the same flavored candies using another palm oil. Sometimes I use more than > 4 Tbsp.) > 6 Tbsp. Cocoa powder (Green & Black organic) > 1 1/2 cups dessicated coconut (bulk from HFS) > 1 Tbps. + 1 tsp. royal jelly (Y.S. Organics - includes propolis, pollen, > eleuthero, Korean ginseng and honey) > 1 1/2 Tbsp. raw honey (I used local honey from friends. If you use Y.S. > organics you might try less because their honey is incredibly sweet. Just > adjust to taste.) > 1/2 tsp. vanilla (Flavorganics, gluten-free) > > Mix everything in a food processor until smooth then transfer to ice cube > trays. Store in fridge. I like them best when they've been sitting at room > temp for a while, so I usually take them out before I eat a meal, then eat > them after the meal. > > The palm oil, btw, makes the consistency softer and more silken than just > using CO. > > Oh, and I also often put a crispy pecan on top of each candy in the ice cube > tray. Goes well with almonds too! > > " Candy " seems like such an inappropriate term for these things, because they > are a superfood in many ways. But that's what we've all been calling them so > I guess it's entrenched. > > Oh, and if you eat a lot of this, better get an electric toothbrush and > Chris' fancy toothpaste because rumor has it that chocolate stains teeth ;-) > > Suze Fisher > Lapdog Design, Inc. > Web Design & Development > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > http://www.westonaprice.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Can you tell brand names and where to buy? Whole Foods? Also, I don't want soy lecithin which seems to be in every chocolate thing there is. Have you investigated whether any of the ingredients have this? thanks On Apr 15, 2008, at 8:28 PM, wrote: > I think I just discovered a way to make the homemade coconut candies > without having to refrigerate them. I really like them because they > are filling and very ***fat*** dense, which is necessary for my diet. > > For those of you on this list who weren't around when we were talking > about these more often, Suze' recipe is below. The tweak I am going to > make, which only dawned on me last night, is to add cocoa butter - > duh! After all these are **chocolate** coconut candies, so why not use > the fat from the same bean that chocolate is made from? > > There are other tweaks I have made to the recipe below: > > Add macadamia oil and nuts. > > Use raw cocoa nibs (the honey will mask the slightly bitter taste) > instead of the cocoa powder. > > I like more of the royal four in mine - bee pollen, royal jelly, > propolis, and honey - but keep in mind the bitterness factor and the > price factor of royal jelly and propolis > > I start with a pile of coconut flakes as the base of my bar/candy - > enough so the resulting mixture is very stiff - like an almond joy bar > :-) Parashis artpages@... portfolio pages: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11468108@N08/ http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 , > Can you tell brand names and where to buy? Whole Foods? > > Also, I don't want soy lecithin which seems to be in every chocolate > thing there is. Have you investigated whether any of the ingredients > have this? > > thanks There is no soy lecithin in any of these products. Coconut oil: Nutiva - Whole Foods. I also buy the fermented coconut oil online from Wilderness Family Naturals (WFN) - www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com Palm Oil: Jungle Products brand from Whole Foods. Online at www.junglepi.com Macadamia oil and nuts: Whole Foods (none in the cupboard at the moment and I can't remember the brand name) Raw Cacao nibs: Whole Foods/Wilderness Family Naturals (although they always seems to be out of stock) Shredded coconut: Whole Foods/WFN - Most shredded coconut isn't very tasty. If you really like a coconut taste then make sure you buy shredded rather than dessicated coconut Cocoa Powder: Green and Black from Whole Foods Cocoa butter - I haven't sourced this yet Honey, Royal Jelly, Propolis, and Bee Pollen: Whole Foods Vanilla - Whole Foods Hope that helps, -- " A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. " Max Planck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Thank you so very much. I can't wait to try it! On Apr 18, 2008, at 6:05 PM, wrote: > , > >> Can you tell brand names and where to buy? Whole Foods? >> >> Also, I don't want soy lecithin which seems to be in every chocolate >> thing there is. Have you investigated whether any of the ingredients >> have this? >> >> thanks > > There is no soy lecithin in any of these products. > > Coconut oil: Nutiva - Whole Foods. I also buy the fermented coconut > oil online from Wilderness Family Naturals (WFN) - > www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com > Palm Oil: Jungle Products brand from Whole Foods. Online at > www.junglepi.com > Macadamia oil and nuts: Whole Foods (none in the cupboard at the > moment and I can't remember the brand name) > Raw Cacao nibs: Whole Foods/Wilderness Family Naturals (although they > always seems to be out of stock) > Shredded coconut: Whole Foods/WFN - Most shredded coconut isn't very > tasty. If you really like a coconut taste then make sure you buy > shredded rather than dessicated coconut > Cocoa Powder: Green and Black from Whole Foods > Cocoa butter - I haven't sourced this yet > Honey, Royal Jelly, Propolis, and Bee Pollen: Whole Foods > Vanilla - Whole Foods > > Hope that helps, > > > -- Parashis artpages@... portfolio pages: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11468108@N08/ http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 , > Thank you so very much. I can't wait to try it! A couple of things to keep in mind. If you use the cocoa nibs you won't need the Green and Black cocoa powder. Some people don't like the nibs because of the bitterness but that can be easily overcome with honey. You can also order raw cocoa powder from Wilderness Family Naturals. The honey, propolis, bee pollen, royal jelly mixture is made by YS Organics and quite spendy. You want to add this as a superfood supplement and use plain honey as the sweetener. If you like nuts in your bars then you should stir them into the mix last. Otherwise if you blend them you will hardly notice them. I also like to stir in the shredded coconut rather than blend it in. Gives the resulting mixture a candy bar like effect. The Macadamia oil I use is the Brookfarm brand from Whole Foods. I just bought some last night. http://www.brookfarm.com.au/products.shtml I just found this as a potential source of cocoa butter: http://www.organic-creations.com/servlet/the-437/organic-cocoa-butter-food/Detai\ l Keep in mind that I am experimenting with the use of cocoa butter. It may very well be that if I mix the cocoa butter with the other oils if will no longer remain solid at room temperature. So my thought at this point is to coat the bar with cocoa butter after they have hardened in the freezer, so they will stay solid at room temperature. I want to circumvent the freezing process entirely so I can keep them always ready to eat on the counter or when I take them with me somewhere they don't soften and melt. -- " A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. " Max Planck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 It occurred to me that someone could just buy bulk chocolate, melt it, and dip the bars in the chocolate. Apparently dipping " centers " in chocolate is an art unto itself: http://www.essortment.com/all/makingchocolate_rjpn.htm Personally I like the idea of just using the fat from chocolate as I imagine one could blend the nibs/cocoa powder together with the cocoa butter and use that as the dip. Anyway, after Pascha I will be experimenting away. -- " A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. " Max Planck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 I bought 2 lbs of raw cocoa butter from http://tasteraw.com/cocoa-butter-organic-p-403.html And I have to say, no wonder they make soap out of it! But now that I blew all that money on it, how can I use it? Take care, Alice - HSing mom to Alice (w/DS) born Thanksgiving Day 1995 :-) Hopewell Junction, NY http://www.frontiernet.net/~castella/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 here's a source of raw cacao butter. says its edible. http://tinyurl.com/674762 A food grade cocoa butter can be found here: > > http://www.candylandcrafts.com/cocoabutter.htm > > but there is no information as to how it is processed. > > The above brand can be found slightly cheaper here: > http://www.essentialaura.com/cobuceorandf.html > > Another brand described as " unrefined " and " food grade " and " certified > organic and fair trade " can be found here: > http://www.essentialaura.com/cobuceorandf.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Alice, > I bought 2 lbs of raw cocoa butter from > http://tasteraw.com/cocoa-butter-organic-p-403.html > And I have to say, no wonder they make soap out of it! > But now that I blew all that money on it, how can I use it? > Take care, What did you do, try to eat it plain? :-) Unsweetened chocolate (full of cocoa butter) isn't very palatable, IMO. -- " A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. " Max Planck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Carolyn, > here's a source of raw cacao butter. says its edible. > http://tinyurl.com/674762 Thanks for the link. Now the question is, given that it is Wolfe offering the product, is it truly raw? <g> -- " A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. " Max Planck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 --- In , <slethnobotanist@...> wrote: > > Alice, > > > I bought 2 lbs of raw cocoa butter from > > http://tasteraw.com/cocoa-butter-organic-p-403.html > > And I have to say, no wonder they make soap out of it! > > But now that I blew all that money on it, how can I use it? > > Take care, > > What did you do, try to eat it plain? :-) > > Unsweetened chocolate (full of cocoa butter) isn't very palatable, IMO. > > > You bet! I love unsweetened chocolate too. This stuff is very hard and one step above a bar of soap, tho. Alice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 > > What did you do, try to eat it plain? :-) > > > > Unsweetened chocolate (full of cocoa butter) isn't very palatable, IMO. > > > > > > > You bet! I love unsweetened chocolate too. This stuff is very hard and > one step above a bar of soap, tho. Alice Yup, it is what keeps chocolate solid at room temperature, which is why I want it. But it has a low melting point just below body temperature and a sharp melting point, meaning it melts quickly (which is why chocolate melts in your mouth). Not to mention it is a very healthy fat. Just needs dressing up is all, like all pure chocolate products. -- " A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. " Max Planck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Alice, > You bet! I love unsweetened chocolate too. This stuff is very hard and > one step above a bar of soap, tho. Alice Well if you plan on throwing it away I would be happy to take it off your hands. -- " And true manhood is shown not in the choice of a celibate life. On the contrary, the prize in the contest of men is won by him who has trained himself by the discharge of the duties of husband and father and by the supervision of a household, regardless of pleasure and pain. It is won by him, I say, who in the midst of his solicitude for his family, shows himself inseparable from the love of God. " - Clement of andria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 regarding cocoa butter-- i've ordered some from these chocolate folks and it is fair trade and organic. http://shop.chocolatealchemy.com/products/cocoa-butter-natural ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:55 PM, sabine luis <impendingbloom@...> wrote: > regarding cocoa butter-- > i've ordered some from these chocolate folks and it is > fair trade and organic. Looks good. Thanks for the link. -- " And true manhood is shown not in the choice of a celibate life. On the contrary, the prize in the contest of men is won by him who has trained himself by the discharge of the duties of husband and father and by the supervision of a household, regardless of pleasure and pain. It is won by him, I say, who in the midst of his solicitude for his family, shows himself inseparable from the love of God. " - Clement of andria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:55 PM, sabine luis <impendingbloom@...> wrote: > regarding cocoa butter-- > i've ordered some from these chocolate folks and it is > fair trade and organic. Looks good. Thanks for the link. -- " And true manhood is shown not in the choice of a celibate life. On the contrary, the prize in the contest of men is won by him who has trained himself by the discharge of the duties of husband and father and by the supervision of a household, regardless of pleasure and pain. It is won by him, I say, who in the midst of his solicitude for his family, shows himself inseparable from the love of God. " - Clement of andria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:55 PM, sabine luis <impendingbloom@...> wrote: > regarding cocoa butter-- > i've ordered some from these chocolate folks and it is > fair trade and organic. Looks good. Thanks for the link. -- " And true manhood is shown not in the choice of a celibate life. On the contrary, the prize in the contest of men is won by him who has trained himself by the discharge of the duties of husband and father and by the supervision of a household, regardless of pleasure and pain. It is won by him, I say, who in the midst of his solicitude for his family, shows himself inseparable from the love of God. " - Clement of andria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 This is to the group. I want to order glucosamine chondroitin so looked up Dr. Ron's site. His is made from shells of shellfish. I thought it was from bovine hoofs and such. Anyone know why the shellfish would be the same? I want to order the best. > Parashis artpages@... portfolio pages: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11468108@N08/ http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 If you want the best you have to make sure they have standardized product and also quality testing, like GMP standards. His prices are high but I could not find info on other stuff. I just bought some pure MSM for my horse that is $8.00 for about a pound, I will know if it works because the horse is pretty sore right now. I use a product with n-acytl-glucosamine (sp?) and its has worked well too. Parashis wrote: > > > This is to the group. I want to order glucosamine chondroitin so looked > up Dr. Ron's site. His is made from shells of shellfish. > > I thought it was from bovine hoofs and such. Anyone know why the > shellfish would be the same? I want to order the best. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 - > For those of you on this list who weren't around when we were talking > about these more often, Suze' recipe is below. The tweak I am going to > make, which only dawned on me last night, is to add cocoa butter - > duh! After all these are **chocolate** coconut candies, so why not use > the fat from the same bean that chocolate is made from? Why not just use unsweetened chocolate + other ingredients instead of cocoa + a mixture of fats including cocoa butter + other ingredients? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Idol <paul.idol@...> wrote: > > > > > - > > > > For those of you on this list who weren't around when we were talking > > about these more often, Suze' recipe is below. The tweak I am going to > > make, which only dawned on me last night, is to add cocoa butter - > > duh! After all these are **chocolate** coconut candies, so why not use > > the fat from the same bean that chocolate is made from? > > Why not just use unsweetened chocolate + other ingredients instead of > cocoa + a mixture of fats including cocoa butter + other ingredients? > > - I'm not sure what you are asking but I want to dip the " candies " in cocoa butter so they would not melt at room temperature. Are you saying just dip them in unsweetened chocolate (which is full of cocoa butter anyway)? That probably would work just as well. -- I will say that unless one is in some kind of daily, personal dynamic, be it marriage or monasticism, one will never truly see themselves. Like it or not in either of these situations there is inescapable feedback on one's character and choices...There is a built in reality gauge in living in an intimate vowed relationship that cannot be simulated otherwise. -Anonymous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 - > I'm not sure what you are asking but I want to dip the " candies " in > cocoa butter so they would not melt at room temperature. > > Are you saying just dip them in unsweetened chocolate (which is full > of cocoa butter anyway)? That probably would work just as well. Ah, I hadn't noticed that your intention was to simply use cocoa butter to form a shell, though I'd imagine that in that case the taste would probably be superior if you used chocolate rather than plain cocoa butter. More generally, though, I'm curious about the thinking behind mixing cocoa powder with coconut oil and/or red palm oil and/or macadamia oil instead of just using unsweetened chocolate, since cocoa butter seems like a perfectly excellent and healthy fat. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 , > More generally, though, I'm curious about the thinking behind mixing > cocoa powder with coconut oil and/or red palm oil and/or macadamia oil > instead of just using unsweetened chocolate, since cocoa butter seems > like a perfectly excellent and healthy fat. Well in my case I wasn't thinking :-). I just aped the original recipe with a few tweaks here and there. And now I'm tweaking the recipe some more. These candies (actually I'm buying some molds and making them into bars) are great tasting and very filling. They were a mainstay the last time I did the Atkins Fat Flush. -- I will say that unless one is in some kind of daily, personal dynamic, be it marriage or monasticism, one will never truly see themselves. Like it or not in either of these situations there is inescapable feedback on one's character and choices...There is a built in reality gauge in living in an intimate vowed relationship that cannot be simulated otherwise. -Anonymous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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