Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Merely being able to believe each other would be a leap! I know someone who worked in a world-reknown research center who told me the doctor he worked under wrote grants for the money, then did such poor research that he often made up whole records. In many cases he decided the outcome before he started then had his underlings figure out a way to conduct the research so they would get the desired conclusions. I can't remember the fellow's name but he had speaking engagements all over the place and was one of the VA's top researchers. Makes you wonder about the rest of them! Then there's that fellow who claimed he successfully transplanted some skin/fur from a black mouse to a white one. Turns out he colored a square on the white mouse with a magic marker. Then there are the scientists getting death threats for studying infectious diseases, and getting blacklisted for studying genetically modified foods. Yeah, science is dying a slow, ugly death. Marketing has triumphed. --- In , t tarail <ttarail@...> wrote: > > " Scientific Method " /Theory > Thank you. Just how many of us in this group were > taught in collage about the " Scientific Method " ? How > many of us remember the fudge factor? How about the > Money factor? How about just to observer it changes > it? > I just don't get why as humans we are so desperate to > believe each others interpretation of " fact. " > TT > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 > > > > > ³ " Scientific Method " /Theory > Thank you. Just how many of us in this group were > taught in collage about the " Scientific Method " ? How > many of us remember the fudge factor? How about the > Money factor? How about just to observer it changes > it? > I just don't get why as humans we are so desperate to > believe each others interpretation of " fact. " > TT² > > The notion that observation changes what is observed is more a part of quantum > physics than the scientific method per se, as far as I know. Not that one > can¹t unwittingly affect what is observed by observing it, but in most cases a > well designed experiment can rule it out, no? > > Whether in any experiment there is a Œfudge factor¹ or a Œmoney factor¹ says > nothing about the whether the scientific method is a good method for gaining > knowledge about the world. Any methodology can be corrupted by corrupted > people. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Have you seen how many tried to " replicate " Linus ing's work with vitamin C? They use too little or for too short a period of time, then publish that it doesn't work. If you aren't familiar with the whole theory, you might believe them. My new friend, the chemist whose book Sally wouldn't publish because he says microwaves aren't dangerous, says he started actually reading studies instead of just the abstracts and found that many of them did not prove what the abstract claimed. I guess it's not a problem with " Scientific Method " as much as the way it's applied or not applied. Liberties are being taken. > > Merely being able to believe each other would be a leap! I know > > someone who worked in a world-reknown research center who told me > > the doctor he worked under wrote grants for the money, then did such > > poor research that he often made up whole records. In many cases he > > decided the outcome before he started then had his underlings figure > > out a way to conduct the research so they would get the desired > > conclusions. I can't remember the fellow's name but he had speaking > > engagements all over the place and was one of the VA's top > > researchers. Makes you wonder about the rest of them! > > Fraud is reportedly a widespread problem, but fortunately there is a > mechanism to protect against it: replication. If scientists > repeatedly try to replicate an experiment and it does not work, then > we revise the incorrect understanding we had acquired based on the > fraudulent, erroneous, or misinterpreted research. > > Chris > -- > The Truth About Cholesterol > Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You: > http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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