Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Hello, New to group and in need of some help. I am not only new to the group but to what real nutrition is. I have grown up eating the wrong SAD (Standard American Diet) for most of my life. Shocked about what I have learned about SAD is an understatement. I am disgusted with the info yet grateful to be able to do something about it. Here is my question. Does anyone know or have a suggestion for treating abnormal menstrual bleeding. (Sorry Guys). Heavy bleeding for literally days and days. I would appreciate any insight you may have to offer. Thank You Felicia --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 As everybody here is probably sick of hearing, I'm on a salt/c protocol for lyme disease. One of the things that members commented on was that their menstrual irregularity was greatly helped - including pms, cramps & heavy bleeding. We don't know why, but it worked, and nobody wrote in to say it didn't work for them, either. I guess you could try it. It is non-toxic. Our ancestors used salt to preserve their foods so they used to eat much more than we do now. The caveat is to only use natural salt like RealSalt or Celtic Sea Salt. And humans and guinea pigs are the only mammals that don't make their own vitamin C. The recommended Daily Allowance is the minimum to prevent scurvy, not the amount for ideal health which depends on how healthy you are and the amount of toxins you have - vitamin C is good for ridding the body of toxins, and it's a part of many enzymes. The protocol is to take the salt & vitamin C at the same times, 4 times a day with a glass of water. Start at 1 gram a day and work up until you hit a max of 12 grams (of course that's for lyme, I think we noticed a difference around 5 - 6 grams a day of the salt & C. > > Hello, > > New to group and in need of some help. > > I am not only new to the group but to what real nutrition is. I have grown up eating the wrong SAD (Standard American Diet) for most of my life. Shocked about what I have learned about SAD is an understatement. > > I am disgusted with the info yet grateful to be able to do something about it. > > Here is my question. > Does anyone know or have a suggestion for treating abnormal menstrual bleeding. (Sorry Guys). > Heavy bleeding for literally days and days. > > I would appreciate any insight you may have to offer. > Thank You > > > Felicia > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 When I get sick I take upwards of 20 grams a day, so I buy the powdered form. You can mix it 2:1 with baking soda (non-aluminum) to buffer the acidity and it pretty much loses the sour flavor and the byproduct is carbon dioxide, so it's like seltzer water. Add some fruit juice and you've got a nice spritzer. (I mix it in water then add fruit juice - add it straight to oj and you get a foam fountain!) I think Vit. C is one that's hard to mess up, most of the major brands are pretty good. Capsules are better than tablets, always, though, since the cellulose they use to bind the ingredients in the tablets is more for the machinery that makes them than for our health and in some studies didn't dissolve very well upon ingestion. Taking it with something that contains natural vitamin c, like orange juice is said to boost its effectiveness. - Renate > > >>>>. And humans and guinea pigs are > the only mammals that don't make their own vitamin C. The > recommended Daily Allowance is the minimum to prevent scurvy, not > the amount for ideal health which depends on how healthy you are and > the amount of toxins you have - vitamin C is good for ridding the > body of toxins, and it's a part of many enzymes. <<<<<< > > What vit C is good?(brand, kind, etc) > ---------- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 4/10/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 On 4/12/06, CHRISTINE TAYLOR <trays.family@...> wrote: > What vit C is good?(brand, kind, etc) I've been using the powder form of Radiance C by http://www.thesynergycompany.com . It's the best-looking one I've found so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 I experienced this for a few years and would be happy to discuss this with you privately, if you would like to e-mail me. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Canfield ~We always grow in the direction in which we express ourselves.~ " The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple. " Psalm 19:7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 There are 2 or 3 other animals which also do not make their own Vit C. SCott --- In > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 > > Hi all, > > I'm new here, and I've just started listening to 's podcasts this week. I am about 25 pounds overweight, which isn't a lot, but at this point I weigh more than I ever have (unless pregnant). And, it has motivated me to think about my relationship with food. said a couple of things that really hit home. One was about how food can be a " bright spot " - I'd never heard anyone describe exactly the way I use food before! Yes, it is my bright spot. My life has always been very solitary and largely I don't mind it, but I do think food is the friend that I turn to when I'm sad and it's the bright spot when I'm bored. I'm beginning my search for a new bright spot - exploring drawing and crafts. > > But I have a question. also mentioned how some women use extra weight to avoid attention from men. I believe that may be the reason that I tend to sabatoge myself once I begin to really lose weight. I'll begin to visibly lose it and start to look good, and then stop myself by overeating or stopping my workouts. It makes me wonder why I'm afraid to look really good. > > So, here's my question, and I'm just hoping someone else here might have experience with this. :-)...Is it possible that I fear attention from men not because anything bad has happened to me (which it hasn't) but because my mom was a survivor of childhood sexual abuse? She didn't begin recovery from that until I was an adult, so I wonder if I could have subconsciously picked up her fears? I distinctly remember her calling me an exhibitionist as a little girl and telling me to cover up when my brother and dad were in the room. I was so confused, and it stuck in my mind. > > If anyone has any thoughts on that, I'd really be grateful. And I'm glad to have found this group.:-) > > Take care, > Jo > Our parents' experiences influence us deeply. The things your mom said to you implied that you can't trust mens' sexual impulses. Things you noticed about the relationship your mom had with your dad also affect how you see yourself in a relationship with a man. Therapy and IOWL podcasts sure help me have a happier life! Grateful For the Journey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Hi Bonnie, Thank you for your response. This seems like a really nice group! I haven't gotten to the podcasts on self-limiting beliefs yet, but I should have time to start there today. I appreciate the suggestion. I'm not sure what to do about the fear of being attractive, and it's nice to know I'm not alone on that. I hope the answers will continue to come along if I'm patient and meet others like me. I do have two young children who are both overweight, but not considered obese. I have been hoping that if I can figure out what my issues are with food, I'll be able to find a healthy way to get us all back on track. I'm sure just like I picked up what my mom was doing, they're picking up what I'm doing. A little frustrating, isn't it?? :-) Children are SO intuitive. Take care, Jo > > Hi Jo, > Welcome. I've fallen off the wagon a bit in that I haven't listened to > the podcasts in about 2 weeks but I've been ill. Food was (and > probably still is a bit) of a bright spot for me and I don't know > exactly what to do about that. I too think I have the fear of being > attractive again, but I am obese right now. Have you listened to the > episodes on self limiting beliefs? They may help > Bonnie > Thoughts become things. Choose the good ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Hi composergrl1, I appreciate your response to my post. You clarified some things for me...especially the point about not trusting men's sexual impulses. That hadn't occurred to me before. It's funny how I could live with my own self for 38 years and not have realized this before. I hope this is the beginning of the road toward some answers. :-) I literally stumbled across the podcasts a few days ago, and I'm sure glad to have found this group as well. Take care, Jo > Our parents' experiences influence us deeply. The things your mom said to you implied that you can't trust mens' sexual impulses. Things you noticed about the relationship your mom had with your dad also affect how you see yourself in a relationship with a man. Therapy and IOWL podcasts sure help me have a happier life! > Grateful For the Journey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 You are too kind--honestly, you made my day! > > Hi composergrl1, > > I appreciate your response to my post. You clarified some things for me...especially the point about not trusting men's sexual impulses. That hadn't occurred to me before. > > It's funny how I could live with my own self for 38 years and not have realized this before. I hope this is the beginning of the road toward some answers. :-) I literally stumbled across the podcasts a few days ago, and I'm sure glad to have found this group as well. > > Take care, > Jo > > > > Our parents' experiences influence us deeply. The things your mom said to you implied that you can't trust mens' sexual impulses. Things you noticed about the relationship your mom had with your dad also affect how you see yourself in a relationship with a man. Therapy and IOWL podcasts sure help me have a happier life! > > Grateful For the Journey > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 You are too kind--honestly, you made my day! > > Hi composergrl1, > > I appreciate your response to my post. You clarified some things for me...especially the point about not trusting men's sexual impulses. That hadn't occurred to me before. > > It's funny how I could live with my own self for 38 years and not have realized this before. I hope this is the beginning of the road toward some answers. :-) I literally stumbled across the podcasts a few days ago, and I'm sure glad to have found this group as well. > > Take care, > Jo > > > > Our parents' experiences influence us deeply. The things your mom said to you implied that you can't trust mens' sexual impulses. Things you noticed about the relationship your mom had with your dad also affect how you see yourself in a relationship with a man. Therapy and IOWL podcasts sure help me have a happier life! > > Grateful For the Journey > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 You are too kind--honestly, you made my day! > > Hi composergrl1, > > I appreciate your response to my post. You clarified some things for me...especially the point about not trusting men's sexual impulses. That hadn't occurred to me before. > > It's funny how I could live with my own self for 38 years and not have realized this before. I hope this is the beginning of the road toward some answers. :-) I literally stumbled across the podcasts a few days ago, and I'm sure glad to have found this group as well. > > Take care, > Jo > > > > Our parents' experiences influence us deeply. The things your mom said to you implied that you can't trust mens' sexual impulses. Things you noticed about the relationship your mom had with your dad also affect how you see yourself in a relationship with a man. Therapy and IOWL podcasts sure help me have a happier life! > > Grateful For the Journey > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 My childhood memories are few and fuzzy, but I so remember my mom getting really upset with me when I was just about 5 years old because I was taking my bathing suit off in front of my brother and his friend. He was 7 and we shared a room... I thought nothing of it and doubt they did, but my mom hit the roof and I remember that feeling of unfairness and having no idea why she was upset. All I knew was I had done something bad and it involved taking my clothes off and boys! lol it's a wonder I didn't turn out to be a stripper! Anyway, I think mom was just a prude not a survivor of sexual abuse... but she did have an alcoholic father and I feel that was her biggest 'issue' cross to bear and affected all her relationships, including food! Anyway, what's important is here and now and working with what we have... oxox P On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:50 AM, jlb_671 <brattenj@...> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I'm new here, and I've just started listening to 's podcasts this > week. I am about 25 pounds overweight, which isn't a lot, but at this point > I weigh more than I ever have (unless pregnant). And, it has motivated me to > think about my relationship with food. said a couple of things that > really hit home. One was about how food can be a " bright spot " - I'd never > heard anyone describe exactly the way I use food before! Yes, it is my > bright spot. My life has always been very solitary and largely I don't mind > it, but I do think food is the friend that I turn to when I'm sad and it's > the bright spot when I'm bored. I'm beginning my search for a new bright > spot - exploring drawing and crafts. > > But I have a question. also mentioned how some women use extra weight > to avoid attention from men. I believe that may be the reason that I tend to > sabatoge myself once I begin to really lose weight. I'll begin to visibly > lose it and start to look good, and then stop myself by overeating or > stopping my workouts. It makes me wonder why I'm afraid to look really good. > > > So, here's my question, and I'm just hoping someone else here might have > experience with this. :-)...Is it possible that I fear attention from men > not because anything bad has happened to me (which it hasn't) but because my > mom was a survivor of childhood sexual abuse? She didn't begin recovery from > that until I was an adult, so I wonder if I could have subconsciously picked > up her fears? I distinctly remember her calling me an exhibitionist as a > little girl and telling me to cover up when my brother and dad were in the > room. I was so confused, and it stuck in my mind. > > If anyone has any thoughts on that, I'd really be grateful. And I'm glad to > have found this group.:-) > > Take care, > Jo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 My childhood memories are few and fuzzy, but I so remember my mom getting really upset with me when I was just about 5 years old because I was taking my bathing suit off in front of my brother and his friend. He was 7 and we shared a room... I thought nothing of it and doubt they did, but my mom hit the roof and I remember that feeling of unfairness and having no idea why she was upset. All I knew was I had done something bad and it involved taking my clothes off and boys! lol it's a wonder I didn't turn out to be a stripper! Anyway, I think mom was just a prude not a survivor of sexual abuse... but she did have an alcoholic father and I feel that was her biggest 'issue' cross to bear and affected all her relationships, including food! Anyway, what's important is here and now and working with what we have... oxox P On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:50 AM, jlb_671 <brattenj@...> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I'm new here, and I've just started listening to 's podcasts this > week. I am about 25 pounds overweight, which isn't a lot, but at this point > I weigh more than I ever have (unless pregnant). And, it has motivated me to > think about my relationship with food. said a couple of things that > really hit home. One was about how food can be a " bright spot " - I'd never > heard anyone describe exactly the way I use food before! Yes, it is my > bright spot. My life has always been very solitary and largely I don't mind > it, but I do think food is the friend that I turn to when I'm sad and it's > the bright spot when I'm bored. I'm beginning my search for a new bright > spot - exploring drawing and crafts. > > But I have a question. also mentioned how some women use extra weight > to avoid attention from men. I believe that may be the reason that I tend to > sabatoge myself once I begin to really lose weight. I'll begin to visibly > lose it and start to look good, and then stop myself by overeating or > stopping my workouts. It makes me wonder why I'm afraid to look really good. > > > So, here's my question, and I'm just hoping someone else here might have > experience with this. :-)...Is it possible that I fear attention from men > not because anything bad has happened to me (which it hasn't) but because my > mom was a survivor of childhood sexual abuse? She didn't begin recovery from > that until I was an adult, so I wonder if I could have subconsciously picked > up her fears? I distinctly remember her calling me an exhibitionist as a > little girl and telling me to cover up when my brother and dad were in the > room. I was so confused, and it stuck in my mind. > > If anyone has any thoughts on that, I'd really be grateful. And I'm glad to > have found this group.:-) > > Take care, > Jo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 My childhood memories are few and fuzzy, but I so remember my mom getting really upset with me when I was just about 5 years old because I was taking my bathing suit off in front of my brother and his friend. He was 7 and we shared a room... I thought nothing of it and doubt they did, but my mom hit the roof and I remember that feeling of unfairness and having no idea why she was upset. All I knew was I had done something bad and it involved taking my clothes off and boys! lol it's a wonder I didn't turn out to be a stripper! Anyway, I think mom was just a prude not a survivor of sexual abuse... but she did have an alcoholic father and I feel that was her biggest 'issue' cross to bear and affected all her relationships, including food! Anyway, what's important is here and now and working with what we have... oxox P On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:50 AM, jlb_671 <brattenj@...> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I'm new here, and I've just started listening to 's podcasts this > week. I am about 25 pounds overweight, which isn't a lot, but at this point > I weigh more than I ever have (unless pregnant). And, it has motivated me to > think about my relationship with food. said a couple of things that > really hit home. One was about how food can be a " bright spot " - I'd never > heard anyone describe exactly the way I use food before! Yes, it is my > bright spot. My life has always been very solitary and largely I don't mind > it, but I do think food is the friend that I turn to when I'm sad and it's > the bright spot when I'm bored. I'm beginning my search for a new bright > spot - exploring drawing and crafts. > > But I have a question. also mentioned how some women use extra weight > to avoid attention from men. I believe that may be the reason that I tend to > sabatoge myself once I begin to really lose weight. I'll begin to visibly > lose it and start to look good, and then stop myself by overeating or > stopping my workouts. It makes me wonder why I'm afraid to look really good. > > > So, here's my question, and I'm just hoping someone else here might have > experience with this. :-)...Is it possible that I fear attention from men > not because anything bad has happened to me (which it hasn't) but because my > mom was a survivor of childhood sexual abuse? She didn't begin recovery from > that until I was an adult, so I wonder if I could have subconsciously picked > up her fears? I distinctly remember her calling me an exhibitionist as a > little girl and telling me to cover up when my brother and dad were in the > room. I was so confused, and it stuck in my mind. > > If anyone has any thoughts on that, I'd really be grateful. And I'm glad to > have found this group.:-) > > Take care, > Jo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 I had an alcoholic father and it does color every fiber of your being. Bonnie Thoughts become things. Choose the good ones. On Jun 8, 2009, at 10:15 PM, Patti Westbrook wrote: > My childhood memories are few and fuzzy, but I so remember my mom > getting > really upset with me when I was just about 5 years old because I was > taking > my bathing suit off in front of my brother and his friend. He was 7 > and we > shared a room... I thought nothing of it and doubt they did, but my > mom hit > the roof and I remember that feeling of unfairness and having no > idea why > she was upset. All I knew was I had done something bad and it > involved > taking my clothes off and boys! lol it's a wonder I didn't turn > out to be > a stripper! Anyway, I think mom was just a prude not a survivor of > sexual > abuse... but she did have an alcoholic father and I feel that was her > biggest 'issue' cross to bear and affected all her relationships, > including > food! Anyway, what's important is here and now and working with > what we > have... > oxox > P > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:50 AM, jlb_671 <brattenj@...> wrote: > >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'm new here, and I've just started listening to 's podcasts >> this >> week. I am about 25 pounds overweight, which isn't a lot, but at >> this point >> I weigh more than I ever have (unless pregnant). And, it has >> motivated me to >> think about my relationship with food. said a couple of >> things that >> really hit home. One was about how food can be a " bright spot " - >> I'd never >> heard anyone describe exactly the way I use food before! Yes, it is >> my >> bright spot. My life has always been very solitary and largely I >> don't mind >> it, but I do think food is the friend that I turn to when I'm sad >> and it's >> the bright spot when I'm bored. I'm beginning my search for a new >> bright >> spot - exploring drawing and crafts. >> >> But I have a question. also mentioned how some women use >> extra weight >> to avoid attention from men. I believe that may be the reason that >> I tend to >> sabatoge myself once I begin to really lose weight. I'll begin to >> visibly >> lose it and start to look good, and then stop myself by overeating or >> stopping my workouts. It makes me wonder why I'm afraid to look >> really good. >> >> >> So, here's my question, and I'm just hoping someone else here might >> have >> experience with this. :-)...Is it possible that I fear attention >> from men >> not because anything bad has happened to me (which it hasn't) but >> because my >> mom was a survivor of childhood sexual abuse? She didn't begin >> recovery from >> that until I was an adult, so I wonder if I could have >> subconsciously picked >> up her fears? I distinctly remember her calling me an exhibitionist >> as a >> little girl and telling me to cover up when my brother and dad were >> in the >> room. I was so confused, and it stuck in my mind. >> >> If anyone has any thoughts on that, I'd really be grateful. And I'm >> glad to >> have found this group.:-) >> >> Take care, >> Jo >> >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Hi Patti, all, I agree with your last statement: " what's important is here and now and working with what we have. " So, maybe I've learned that I picked up some limiting beliefs from my mom subconsciously, but now what do I do with that information? I listened to some of the self-limiting beliefs podcasts yesterday. I guess is saying that it's as simple as recognizing the limiting belief consciously, and then creating a new positive belief. I suppose once you create a new one, then it's a matter of making it an affirmation that is repeated until it sticks. I've been thinking about this whole thing more since I wrote the other day. I'm honestly afraid of the attention of strangers...literally afraid that I will be physically hurt by someone if I would lose the weight. It seems like a really unreasonable fear. I've definitely had normal relationships with men, but those have been with people I got to know and trust through work or other activities. I never date men who are normal weight or are overly motivated to stay in shape. That way, I don't have to be the perfect weight (because they aren't) and they'll still find me attractive. It's this odd fear of strangers that's kind of funny to recognize in myself. For example, I remember standing in line at the grocery store when I was 19. I was in the best shape of my life, and I had on a short dress (a departure for me) to go to a friend's graduation party. I remember being uncomfortable that the men were looking, and the guy behind me said a woman as beautiful as me shouldn't have to buy myself flowers (I was actually buying them for my graduating friend). The entire interaction freaked me out. I didn't have the confidence to feel safe in that body AT ALL. On some level, I also felt that I shouldn't have dressed that way if I didn't want the attention. I'm a lot older now, and I'm thinking I probably have the confidence to handle these kinds of situations, but I just haven't brought this stuff to the surface to really look at it unitl now. So, I'm not sure, but I'm thinking that if I come up with an affirmation that I can repeat, it might work to change this irrational fear. :-) Take care, Jo On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Patti Westbrook <pwestbrook@...>wrote: > > > My childhood memories are few and fuzzy, but I so remember my mom getting > really upset with me when I was just about 5 years old because I was taking > my bathing suit off in front of my brother and his friend. He was 7 and we > shared a room... I thought nothing of it and doubt they did, but my mom hit > the roof and I remember that feeling of unfairness and having no idea why > she was upset. All I knew was I had done something bad and it involved > taking my clothes off and boys! lol it's a wonder I didn't turn out to be > a stripper! Anyway, I think mom was just a prude not a survivor of sexual > abuse... but she did have an alcoholic father and I feel that was her > biggest 'issue' cross to bear and affected all her relationships, including > food! Anyway, what's important is here and now and working with what we > have... > oxox > P > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:50 AM, jlb_671 <brattenj@...<brattenj%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm new here, and I've just started listening to 's podcasts this > > week. I am about 25 pounds overweight, which isn't a lot, but at this > point > > I weigh more than I ever have (unless pregnant). And, it has motivated me > to > > think about my relationship with food. said a couple of things that > > really hit home. One was about how food can be a " bright spot " - I'd > never > > heard anyone describe exactly the way I use food before! Yes, it is my > > bright spot. My life has always been very solitary and largely I don't > mind > > it, but I do think food is the friend that I turn to when I'm sad and > it's > > the bright spot when I'm bored. I'm beginning my search for a new bright > > spot - exploring drawing and crafts. > > > > But I have a question. also mentioned how some women use extra > weight > > to avoid attention from men. I believe that may be the reason that I tend > to > > sabatoge myself once I begin to really lose weight. I'll begin to visibly > > lose it and start to look good, and then stop myself by overeating or > > stopping my workouts. It makes me wonder why I'm afraid to look really > good. > > > > > > So, here's my question, and I'm just hoping someone else here might have > > experience with this. :-)...Is it possible that I fear attention from men > > not because anything bad has happened to me (which it hasn't) but because > my > > mom was a survivor of childhood sexual abuse? She didn't begin recovery > from > > that until I was an adult, so I wonder if I could have subconsciously > picked > > up her fears? I distinctly remember her calling me an exhibitionist as a > > little girl and telling me to cover up when my brother and dad were in > the > > room. I was so confused, and it stuck in my mind. > > > > If anyone has any thoughts on that, I'd really be grateful. And I'm glad > to > > have found this group.:-) > > > > Take care, > > Jo > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Hi Patti, all, I agree with your last statement: " what's important is here and now and working with what we have. " So, maybe I've learned that I picked up some limiting beliefs from my mom subconsciously, but now what do I do with that information? I listened to some of the self-limiting beliefs podcasts yesterday. I guess is saying that it's as simple as recognizing the limiting belief consciously, and then creating a new positive belief. I suppose once you create a new one, then it's a matter of making it an affirmation that is repeated until it sticks. I've been thinking about this whole thing more since I wrote the other day. I'm honestly afraid of the attention of strangers...literally afraid that I will be physically hurt by someone if I would lose the weight. It seems like a really unreasonable fear. I've definitely had normal relationships with men, but those have been with people I got to know and trust through work or other activities. I never date men who are normal weight or are overly motivated to stay in shape. That way, I don't have to be the perfect weight (because they aren't) and they'll still find me attractive. It's this odd fear of strangers that's kind of funny to recognize in myself. For example, I remember standing in line at the grocery store when I was 19. I was in the best shape of my life, and I had on a short dress (a departure for me) to go to a friend's graduation party. I remember being uncomfortable that the men were looking, and the guy behind me said a woman as beautiful as me shouldn't have to buy myself flowers (I was actually buying them for my graduating friend). The entire interaction freaked me out. I didn't have the confidence to feel safe in that body AT ALL. On some level, I also felt that I shouldn't have dressed that way if I didn't want the attention. I'm a lot older now, and I'm thinking I probably have the confidence to handle these kinds of situations, but I just haven't brought this stuff to the surface to really look at it unitl now. So, I'm not sure, but I'm thinking that if I come up with an affirmation that I can repeat, it might work to change this irrational fear. :-) Take care, Jo On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Patti Westbrook <pwestbrook@...>wrote: > > > My childhood memories are few and fuzzy, but I so remember my mom getting > really upset with me when I was just about 5 years old because I was taking > my bathing suit off in front of my brother and his friend. He was 7 and we > shared a room... I thought nothing of it and doubt they did, but my mom hit > the roof and I remember that feeling of unfairness and having no idea why > she was upset. All I knew was I had done something bad and it involved > taking my clothes off and boys! lol it's a wonder I didn't turn out to be > a stripper! Anyway, I think mom was just a prude not a survivor of sexual > abuse... but she did have an alcoholic father and I feel that was her > biggest 'issue' cross to bear and affected all her relationships, including > food! Anyway, what's important is here and now and working with what we > have... > oxox > P > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:50 AM, jlb_671 <brattenj@...<brattenj%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm new here, and I've just started listening to 's podcasts this > > week. I am about 25 pounds overweight, which isn't a lot, but at this > point > > I weigh more than I ever have (unless pregnant). And, it has motivated me > to > > think about my relationship with food. said a couple of things that > > really hit home. One was about how food can be a " bright spot " - I'd > never > > heard anyone describe exactly the way I use food before! Yes, it is my > > bright spot. My life has always been very solitary and largely I don't > mind > > it, but I do think food is the friend that I turn to when I'm sad and > it's > > the bright spot when I'm bored. I'm beginning my search for a new bright > > spot - exploring drawing and crafts. > > > > But I have a question. also mentioned how some women use extra > weight > > to avoid attention from men. I believe that may be the reason that I tend > to > > sabatoge myself once I begin to really lose weight. I'll begin to visibly > > lose it and start to look good, and then stop myself by overeating or > > stopping my workouts. It makes me wonder why I'm afraid to look really > good. > > > > > > So, here's my question, and I'm just hoping someone else here might have > > experience with this. :-)...Is it possible that I fear attention from men > > not because anything bad has happened to me (which it hasn't) but because > my > > mom was a survivor of childhood sexual abuse? She didn't begin recovery > from > > that until I was an adult, so I wonder if I could have subconsciously > picked > > up her fears? I distinctly remember her calling me an exhibitionist as a > > little girl and telling me to cover up when my brother and dad were in > the > > room. I was so confused, and it stuck in my mind. > > > > If anyone has any thoughts on that, I'd really be grateful. And I'm glad > to > > have found this group.:-) > > > > Take care, > > Jo > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Jo, Maybe it's time to talk to a professional. I don't remember if you said that you did that or not. As far as limiting beliefs, BOY do i have ALOT of them and I battle them every day. Maybe I shouldn't be battling them, just accepting them and trying to replace them? Bonnie Thoughts become things. Choose the good ones. On Jun 10, 2009, at 11:06 AM, JBratten wrote: > Hi Patti, all, > > I agree with your last statement: " what's important is here and now > and > working with what we have. " So, maybe I've learned that I picked up > some > limiting beliefs from my mom subconsciously, but now what do I do > with that > information? > > I listened to some of the self-limiting beliefs podcasts yesterday. > I guess > is saying that it's as simple as recognizing the limiting belief > consciously, and then creating a new positive belief. I suppose once > you > create a new one, then it's a matter of making it an affirmation > that is > repeated until it sticks. > > I've been thinking about this whole thing more since I wrote the > other day. > I'm honestly afraid of the attention of strangers...literally afraid > that I > will be physically hurt by someone if I would lose the weight. It > seems like > a really unreasonable fear. I've definitely had normal relationships > with > men, but those have been with people I got to know and trust through > work or > other activities. I never date men who are normal weight or are overly > motivated to stay in shape. That way, I don't have to be the perfect > weight > (because they aren't) and they'll still find me attractive. > > It's this odd fear of strangers that's kind of funny to recognize in > myself. > For example, I remember standing in line at the grocery store when I > was 19. > I was in the best shape of my life, and I had on a short dress (a > departure > for me) to go to a friend's graduation party. I remember being > uncomfortable > that the men were looking, and the guy behind me said a woman as > beautiful > as me shouldn't have to buy myself flowers (I was actually buying > them for > my graduating friend). The entire interaction freaked me out. I > didn't have > the confidence to feel safe in that body AT ALL. On some level, I > also felt > that I shouldn't have dressed that way if I didn't want the > attention. I'm a > lot older now, and I'm thinking I probably have the confidence to > handle > these kinds of situations, but I just haven't brought this stuff to > the > surface to really look at it unitl now. > > So, I'm not sure, but I'm thinking that if I come up with an > affirmation > that I can repeat, it might work to change this irrational fear. :-) > > Take care, > Jo > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Patti Westbrook > <pwestbrook@...>wrote: > >> >> >> My childhood memories are few and fuzzy, but I so remember my mom >> getting >> really upset with me when I was just about 5 years old because I >> was taking >> my bathing suit off in front of my brother and his friend. He was 7 >> and we >> shared a room... I thought nothing of it and doubt they did, but my >> mom hit >> the roof and I remember that feeling of unfairness and having no >> idea why >> she was upset. All I knew was I had done something bad and it >> involved >> taking my clothes off and boys! lol it's a wonder I didn't turn out >> to be >> a stripper! Anyway, I think mom was just a prude not a survivor of >> sexual >> abuse... but she did have an alcoholic father and I feel that was her >> biggest 'issue' cross to bear and affected all her relationships, >> including >> food! Anyway, what's important is here and now and working with >> what we >> have... >> oxox >> P >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:50 AM, jlb_671 <brattenj@...<brattenj >> %40gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm new here, and I've just started listening to 's podcasts >>> this >>> week. I am about 25 pounds overweight, which isn't a lot, but at >>> this >> point >>> I weigh more than I ever have (unless pregnant). And, it has >>> motivated me >> to >>> think about my relationship with food. said a couple of >>> things that >>> really hit home. One was about how food can be a " bright spot " - I'd >> never >>> heard anyone describe exactly the way I use food before! Yes, it >>> is my >>> bright spot. My life has always been very solitary and largely I >>> don't >> mind >>> it, but I do think food is the friend that I turn to when I'm sad >>> and >> it's >>> the bright spot when I'm bored. I'm beginning my search for a new >>> bright >>> spot - exploring drawing and crafts. >>> >>> But I have a question. also mentioned how some women use extra >> weight >>> to avoid attention from men. I believe that may be the reason that >>> I tend >> to >>> sabatoge myself once I begin to really lose weight. I'll begin to >>> visibly >>> lose it and start to look good, and then stop myself by overeating >>> or >>> stopping my workouts. It makes me wonder why I'm afraid to look >>> really >> good. >>> >>> >>> So, here's my question, and I'm just hoping someone else here >>> might have >>> experience with this. :-)...Is it possible that I fear attention >>> from men >>> not because anything bad has happened to me (which it hasn't) but >>> because >> my >>> mom was a survivor of childhood sexual abuse? She didn't begin >>> recovery >> from >>> that until I was an adult, so I wonder if I could have >>> subconsciously >> picked >>> up her fears? I distinctly remember her calling me an >>> exhibitionist as a >>> little girl and telling me to cover up when my brother and dad >>> were in >> the >>> room. I was so confused, and it stuck in my mind. >>> >>> If anyone has any thoughts on that, I'd really be grateful. And >>> I'm glad >> to >>> have found this group.:-) >>> >>> Take care, >>> Jo >>> >>> >>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Jo, Maybe it's time to talk to a professional. I don't remember if you said that you did that or not. As far as limiting beliefs, BOY do i have ALOT of them and I battle them every day. Maybe I shouldn't be battling them, just accepting them and trying to replace them? Bonnie Thoughts become things. Choose the good ones. On Jun 10, 2009, at 11:06 AM, JBratten wrote: > Hi Patti, all, > > I agree with your last statement: " what's important is here and now > and > working with what we have. " So, maybe I've learned that I picked up > some > limiting beliefs from my mom subconsciously, but now what do I do > with that > information? > > I listened to some of the self-limiting beliefs podcasts yesterday. > I guess > is saying that it's as simple as recognizing the limiting belief > consciously, and then creating a new positive belief. I suppose once > you > create a new one, then it's a matter of making it an affirmation > that is > repeated until it sticks. > > I've been thinking about this whole thing more since I wrote the > other day. > I'm honestly afraid of the attention of strangers...literally afraid > that I > will be physically hurt by someone if I would lose the weight. It > seems like > a really unreasonable fear. I've definitely had normal relationships > with > men, but those have been with people I got to know and trust through > work or > other activities. I never date men who are normal weight or are overly > motivated to stay in shape. That way, I don't have to be the perfect > weight > (because they aren't) and they'll still find me attractive. > > It's this odd fear of strangers that's kind of funny to recognize in > myself. > For example, I remember standing in line at the grocery store when I > was 19. > I was in the best shape of my life, and I had on a short dress (a > departure > for me) to go to a friend's graduation party. I remember being > uncomfortable > that the men were looking, and the guy behind me said a woman as > beautiful > as me shouldn't have to buy myself flowers (I was actually buying > them for > my graduating friend). The entire interaction freaked me out. I > didn't have > the confidence to feel safe in that body AT ALL. On some level, I > also felt > that I shouldn't have dressed that way if I didn't want the > attention. I'm a > lot older now, and I'm thinking I probably have the confidence to > handle > these kinds of situations, but I just haven't brought this stuff to > the > surface to really look at it unitl now. > > So, I'm not sure, but I'm thinking that if I come up with an > affirmation > that I can repeat, it might work to change this irrational fear. :-) > > Take care, > Jo > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Patti Westbrook > <pwestbrook@...>wrote: > >> >> >> My childhood memories are few and fuzzy, but I so remember my mom >> getting >> really upset with me when I was just about 5 years old because I >> was taking >> my bathing suit off in front of my brother and his friend. He was 7 >> and we >> shared a room... I thought nothing of it and doubt they did, but my >> mom hit >> the roof and I remember that feeling of unfairness and having no >> idea why >> she was upset. All I knew was I had done something bad and it >> involved >> taking my clothes off and boys! lol it's a wonder I didn't turn out >> to be >> a stripper! Anyway, I think mom was just a prude not a survivor of >> sexual >> abuse... but she did have an alcoholic father and I feel that was her >> biggest 'issue' cross to bear and affected all her relationships, >> including >> food! Anyway, what's important is here and now and working with >> what we >> have... >> oxox >> P >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:50 AM, jlb_671 <brattenj@...<brattenj >> %40gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm new here, and I've just started listening to 's podcasts >>> this >>> week. I am about 25 pounds overweight, which isn't a lot, but at >>> this >> point >>> I weigh more than I ever have (unless pregnant). And, it has >>> motivated me >> to >>> think about my relationship with food. said a couple of >>> things that >>> really hit home. One was about how food can be a " bright spot " - I'd >> never >>> heard anyone describe exactly the way I use food before! Yes, it >>> is my >>> bright spot. My life has always been very solitary and largely I >>> don't >> mind >>> it, but I do think food is the friend that I turn to when I'm sad >>> and >> it's >>> the bright spot when I'm bored. I'm beginning my search for a new >>> bright >>> spot - exploring drawing and crafts. >>> >>> But I have a question. also mentioned how some women use extra >> weight >>> to avoid attention from men. I believe that may be the reason that >>> I tend >> to >>> sabatoge myself once I begin to really lose weight. I'll begin to >>> visibly >>> lose it and start to look good, and then stop myself by overeating >>> or >>> stopping my workouts. It makes me wonder why I'm afraid to look >>> really >> good. >>> >>> >>> So, here's my question, and I'm just hoping someone else here >>> might have >>> experience with this. :-)...Is it possible that I fear attention >>> from men >>> not because anything bad has happened to me (which it hasn't) but >>> because >> my >>> mom was a survivor of childhood sexual abuse? She didn't begin >>> recovery >> from >>> that until I was an adult, so I wonder if I could have >>> subconsciously >> picked >>> up her fears? I distinctly remember her calling me an >>> exhibitionist as a >>> little girl and telling me to cover up when my brother and dad >>> were in >> the >>> room. I was so confused, and it stuck in my mind. >>> >>> If anyone has any thoughts on that, I'd really be grateful. And >>> I'm glad >> to >>> have found this group.:-) >>> >>> Take care, >>> Jo >>> >>> >>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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