Re: fish- or fish liver- or cod liver oil or...

[Guest guest]

If in doubt, take both? They do process the cod liver oil quite a

bit so really it's more of an anachronistic way of delivering the A

and D than authentic any more - the processing they have to do to

remove the pollutants the fish picked up from the ocean destroy the

A and D, leaving only fishy tasting oil, so then they extract the A

and D from other cod liver and put it back into the cleaned oil.

(or some use the artificial forms). After all that, does it still

have the DHEA and other letters we want? I don't know. I've heard

as far as Omega-3's that oil from small fish low on the food chain

is best, like anchovies and smelt. That makes it seem you would

need to take both.

>

> Would anyone by chance know how one decides whether to supplement

with fish oil or fish LIVER oil or COD liver oil?

>

> I'm so confused and can't make heads or tails of it all.

>

> All I've found seems to indicate they have the same benefits, but

surely there must be significant differentiation !

>

> Grateful for any insight.

>

> Angel

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not all cod liver oils are so highly processed. See link:

http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/codliver-manufacture.html

specifically, this clip below:

Thus, the cod liver oils on the market today fall into one of four

categories:

1. Fully cleaned and deodorized with nothing added back in. These

oils have a reduced vitamin A content and virtually no vitamin D. This

type of cod liver oil might be appropriate for life guards and others

who spend a lot of time in the sun, and who want the benefits of vitamin

A, EPA and DHA without overdosing on vitamin D. But since

vitamin D works synergetically with vitamin A, this would not be a

good choice for most of us.

2. Non-deodorized with a fair amount of natural

vitamin A and D left. According to the company website, Garden

of Life cod liver oil falls in this category. It contains 500-1500 IU

vitamin A per gram (2500-7500 IU per teaspoon) and 100-175 IU vitamin

D per gram (500-875 IU per teaspoon).

3. Fully cleaned and deodorized cod liver oil with synthetic

vitamins added back in. Most of the cod liver oils on the market fall

into this category. (You'll need to check with the individual

manufacturer to verify whether their cod liver oil falls in this

category.) These vary in dose from about 1100 to 4600 IU vitamin A per

teaspoon and 180 to 460 IU vitamin D per teaspoon.

4. Fully cleaned and deodorized, with natural vitamins added back

in, standardized at 2340 IU vitamin A per gram (11,700 IU per

teaspoon) and 234 IU vitamin D (1170 IU per teaspoon). This is the

type of cod liver oil sold as Blue Ice and by Radiant Life and Dr.

Ron's UltraPure.

This doesn't really answer the original question, but perhaps clears

up some mis-nomers about cod liver oil in general.

-Tamara

--- In , " haecklers " <haecklers@...>

wrote:

>

> They do process the cod liver oil quite a

> bit so really it's more of an anachronistic way of delivering the A

> and D than authentic any more - the processing they have to do to

> remove the pollutants the fish picked up from the ocean destroy the

> A and D, leaving only fishy tasting oil, so then they extract the A

> and D from other cod liver and put it back into the cleaned oil.

> (or some use the artificial forms). After all that, does it still

> have the DHEA and other letters we want? I don't know. I've heard

> as far as Omega-3's that oil from small fish low on the food chain

> is best, like anchovies and smelt. That makes it seem you would

> need to take both.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your insights, I didn't know that the fish liver oil was more

processed !

Angel

Re: fish- or fish liver- or cod liver oil or...

Posted by: " haecklers " haecklers@... haecklers

If in doubt, take both? They do process the cod liver oil quite a

bit so really it's more of an anachronistic way of delivering the A

and D than authentic any more - the processing they have to do to

remove the pollutants the fish picked up from the ocean destroy the

A and D, leaving only fishy tasting oil, so then they extract the A

and D from other cod liver and put it back into the cleaned oil.

(or some use the artificial forms). After all that, does it still

have the DHEA and other letters we want? I don't know. I've heard

as far as Omega-3's that oil from small fish low on the food chain

is best, like anchovies and smelt. That makes it seem you would

need to take both.

[Guest guest]

Any other thoughts on the fish/fish liver/cod liver question plus specific

brands people will swear by? I have been convinced that cod liver oil has

been helpful for my 7 year olds slight dyslexia but it seems hard to get a

good CLO here in Scandinavia - actually I can order from Norway but I'd like

to hear more from people who have recently looked into best brands.

Thanks.

--

April Streeter

Upstart Publishing

Dahlbergsgatan 24A 41126 Gothenburg SWEDEN

[Guest guest]

On 10/22/06, April Streeter <april.streeter@...> wrote:

> Any other thoughts on the fish/fish liver/cod liver question plus specific

> brands people will swear by? I have been convinced that cod liver oil has

> been helpful for my 7 year olds slight dyslexia but it seems hard to get a

> good CLO here in Scandinavia - actually I can order from Norway but I'd like

> to hear more from people who have recently looked into best brands.

I use Blue Ice. Quantum is a similar quality product, but the

antioxidants used are different. Blue Ice is the best, in my opinion,

unless someone has a sensitivity to rosemary oil for some reason, in

which case Quantum or its various distributors (e.g. Radiant Life) is

best, which I think uses isolated vitamin E for an antioxidant.

These brands have a high vitamin content, are very clean, and no

synthetic vitamins are added.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

Hi April,

April Streeter wrote:

> Any other thoughts on the fish/fish liver/cod liver question plus specific

> brands people will swear by? I have been convinced that cod liver oil has

> been helpful for my 7 year olds slight dyslexia but it seems hard to get a

> good CLO here in Scandinavia - actually I can order from Norway but I'd like

> to hear more from people who have recently looked into best brands.

I'm in Sweden too. I've ordered this CLO

http://www.healthspan.co.uk/shop/product.aspx?Id=CODL .

Healthspan is linked to from WAPF's CLO page. I also contacted them

and they assured me that the vitamins are all natural. Shipping to

here is just £2, no matter the size of the order. And there's no VAT

on Guernsey. ;-)

When it comes to fish oil I swear by Eskimo-3. I've eaten it for 10

years and can notice the quality difference myself (it helps against

some chronic pain issues I have, other brands I've tried don't). It

also always gets excellent results in test. I've found this web shop

is reliable and much cheaper than the health food stores.

http://www.bodystore.se

HTH

hemul

[Guest guest]

Wow, Tamara !

Now there's even more info to digest before buying the dang capsules!

From what I've absorbed so far...

a) fish oil contains less vit a and d than cod liver oil

therefore, unless one lives on or near the equator, one should take fish oil

in summer an cod liver oil in winter months

c) cod liver oils vary greatly in quality and composition, the optimal form

seems to be the

cleaned/deodorized version infused with natural vitamins

ok, so since we live in California, we need the cod liver oil from Oct-April.

And I've heard great things about a Carlton brand, so I'm going to google it

right now.

Thanks Tamara!

Angel

Re: fish- or fish liver- or cod liver oil or...

Posted by: " tamara_zzzzz " Tamaraz@... tamara_zzzzz

Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:46 am (PST)

Not all cod liver oils are so highly processed. See link:

http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/codliver-manufacture.html

specifically, this clip below:

Thus, the cod liver oils on the market today fall into one of four

categories:

1. Fully cleaned and deodorized with nothing added back in. These

oils have a reduced vitamin A content and virtually no vitamin D. This

type of cod liver oil might be appropriate for life guards and others

who spend a lot of time in the sun, and who want the benefits of vitamin

A, EPA and DHA without overdosing on vitamin D. But since

vitamin D works synergetically with vitamin A, this would not be a

good choice for most of us.

2. Non-deodorized with a fair amount of natural

vitamin A and D left. According to the company website, Garden

of Life cod liver oil falls in this category. It contains 500-1500 IU

vitamin A per gram (2500-7500 IU per teaspoon) and 100-175 IU vitamin

D per gram (500-875 IU per teaspoon).

3. Fully cleaned and deodorized cod liver oil with synthetic

vitamins added back in. Most of the cod liver oils on the market fall

into this category. (You'll need to check with the individual

manufacturer to verify whether their cod liver oil falls in this

category.) These vary in dose from about 1100 to 4600 IU vitamin A per

teaspoon and 180 to 460 IU vitamin D per teaspoon.

4. Fully cleaned and deodorized, with natural vitamins added back

in, standardized at 2340 IU vitamin A per gram (11,700 IU per

teaspoon) and 234 IU vitamin D (1170 IU per teaspoon). This is the

type of cod liver oil sold as Blue Ice and by Radiant Life and Dr.

Ron's UltraPure.

This doesn't really answer the original question, but perhaps clears

up some mis-nomers about cod liver oil in general.

-Tamara

[Guest guest]

Angel,

> a) fish oil contains less vit a and d than cod liver oil

> therefore, unless one lives on or near the equator, one should take fish

oil in summer an cod liver oil in winter months

This is true if you are getting daily afternoon sunshine with some 80%

or so of your body exposed. If you don't get regular sunbathing --

for example if you work inside, or if you dress very conservatively,

you may still need some cod liver oil.

Chris

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Find Out What Your Doctor Isn't Telling You:

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