Food chemicals and vitamin C supplements

[Guest guest]

Which of the following are permissable on a low-food chemical diet?

-- Ascorbic acid, straight

-- Ascorbates, esterified

-- Ascorbic acid or ascorbates plus any of the following:

*** Rose Hips

*** Acerola cherry

*** Citrus Bioflavanoids

*** Rutin

*** Hesperidin

Thanks!

Chris

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[Guest guest]

Emma,

> Yes, fine, but don't overdo. The oxalate people say vit C can be

> converted easily into oxalic acid when taken to excess (whether it IS

> or not is a matter for debate, everyone is still fighting about that).

Hmm. Well I supplement with a lot of calcium (from bone) so I think

that would protect me from oxalates to some degree or another.

Ordinarily, I wouldn't take more than a gram or two of vitamin C a

day, and I've seen some indications that excess vitamin C does indeed

cause problems especially if it is not accompanied by other parts of

the antioxidant package such as glutathione support (selenium,

cysteine-rich protein, retinol, etc). BUT, I got sick recently, and I

find megadosing of vitamin C, zinc and cod liver oil to be very

helpful at booting an illness. My C supplement, however, had an

unidentified quantity of rose hips and acerola cherry, plus 50 mg of

citrus bioflavanoids for every 1 gram of vitamin C, and I was taking

huge doses of this, and wondering whether it may have hurt me

symptomwise despite helping push the cold/flu/whatever along (which I

think it did).

I just bought some straight ascorbic acid today, although I don't

regard ascorbic acid as being internally complete. In other words, I

think there are things that go along with it that would make taking

higher doses of it safer and more effective.

> Probably ok, but I don't prefer ester C as a good C source for other

> reasons.

What are those other reasons?

> Brussels sprouts are the best failsafe vitamin C choice.

LOL. That's all I have to say to that. ;-)

Chris

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Emma,

> I don't know enough about vitamin C chemistry to be sure, but:

>

> http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/esterc.htm

That's interesting. I've always favored Ester-C over straight C based

on stuff I've read on bottles or in books like _Prescription for

Nutritional Healing_, neither of which are good reasons to believe

anything. I'll have to look into this further some day.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

> Ordinarily, I wouldn't take more than a gram or two of vitamin C a

> day, and I've seen some indications that excess vitamin C does indeed

> cause problems especially if it is not accompanied by other parts of

> the antioxidant package such as glutathione support (selenium,

> cysteine-rich protein, retinol, etc).

Could you point me to these references? Vitamin C is right up my alley

and I'd love to read more about megadoses thereof since I often take

large amounts myself.

BUT, I got sick recently, and I

> find megadosing of vitamin C, zinc and cod liver oil to be very

> helpful at booting an illness. My C supplement, however, had an

> unidentified quantity of rose hips and acerola cherry, plus 50 mg of

> citrus bioflavanoids for every 1 gram of vitamin C, and I was taking

> huge doses of this, and wondering whether it may have hurt me

> symptomwise despite helping push the cold/flu/whatever along (which I

> think it did).

ing cited many studies (which of course are pretty old now) that

showed no difference in the effect on colds or other viral infections

between ascorbic acid alone and with bioflavinoids. Of course, these

studies did not test the long term effects of such regimens.

> I just bought some straight ascorbic acid today, although I don't

> regard ascorbic acid as being internally complete. In other words, I

> think there are things that go along with it that would make taking

> higher doses of it safer and more effective.

Again, what have you read to suggest this?

Tom