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Hi Girlscout,

I'm glad to hear from you.

I could relate to this:

>

> " A fingerprint brand from a big hand

> Who can remember a grip so tight it stained? "

To me literally, it could be the time I was 14 that my mum grabbed

my arm HARD (she's a solidly built person) and it hurt. She rarely

hit me but that time I think she punched me on the arm once hard and

I punched her back on her arm, and that was the last time she ever

hit me.

I personnally really struggle with self-criticism and feeling I am

crap, no self worth. (Probably because nada would say " what good

are you? " as a light, off the cuff comment, and I took it to

mean " you're no good " . My therapist points out that he would

struggle to find any " bad " in me. He said that I have many

achievements (academic, music) and likable personality

characteristics (affectionate, humourous). And you do too - you

have art show achievements, you are open and honest and supportive

here, and I'm sure you could think of many more. It's nice to try

and remind myself that self-criticism comes from nada's brainwashing

of me. It's something I'm trying to get awareness and understanding

about it. But it's tough at times!

Regards,

P.Bear

>

> Hi Guys, I've been gone for a bit. How is everyone? I'm okay.

Dealing with

> medication changes and all that, I just took some time off from the

> memories. I did finish a sculpture - of course, with quite a bit

of an ugly

> tribute to Nada in it. I'll send an image to anyone who would like

to see

> it. It's part of a series that is dedicated to nada which is

called " women

> are birds. " Right now it is at a sculpture show waiting to see if

it will be

> accepted.

>

> I want to describe it to see if it rings for anyone else.

> It's a woman's head. She is wearing a black hat, necklace that is

just

> mutiple ring upon ring of metal and has feathers at her neck and

collar

> bones. I paper mached over a long necked styrafoam head. Then I

crocheted

> her outfit and wrote on her face:

>

> " A fingerprint brand from a big hand

> Who can remember a grip so tight it stained? "

>

> This is part of a poem that is about the personal shame I feel is

the only

> gift nada every gave me. I am so afraid that everyone around me is

trying to

> change my personality. When I am facing critisism, I instantly go

to that

> place where I believe deep inside that the person I am is deeply

deeply

> flawed from the way I smile to the way my toes are shaped.

>

> okay, not to jump right back into things, but that's where I have

> been lately. How are you all? I did miss you guys and the support.

I know

> that I need it now. love, girlscout

>

>

>

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One step in front of the other, as usual. Still struggling with constant second

guessing abilities as a reasonable mother. Same old, same old. Hanging in there,

moving forward.

***

It is good to hear from you, I was wondering what happened. As far as I am

concerned, who cares if anyone " gets " it.. The sculpture is more about getting

the garbage out of you and giving it a voice that can't be put down. Our chief

concern as KOs is to root out the negative that has been hammered into us and

let it go. It is interesting that you depict your nada as a bird-like creature

with a long neck. The first thought I had, when I read that, was of a bird of

prey. Then I started thinking maybe vulture. No doubt a beady eyed hateful

harpy, with all that implies. I picture a n straw hat like the

anti-Poppins and a close stitched shawl, all the better to smoother your dreams

with. The metal rings from collar bone to jaw are distorting her presence giving

her height to tower over you and condescend your talent.

I get the part about the stain that can't be removed.

I hope it gets accepted.

Keep moving on, chick.

anxiety anyone?

Hi Guys, I've been gone for a bit. How is everyone? I'm okay. Dealing with

medication changes and all that, I just took some time off from the

memories. I did finish a sculpture - of course, with quite a bit of an ugly

tribute to Nada in it. I'll send an image to anyone who would like to see

it. It's part of a series that is dedicated to nada which is called " women

are birds. " Right now it is at a sculpture show waiting to see if it will be

accepted.

I want to describe it to see if it rings for anyone else.

It's a woman's head. She is wearing a black hat, necklace that is just

mutiple ring upon ring of metal and has feathers at her neck and collar

bones. I paper mached over a long necked styrafoam head. Then I crocheted

her outfit and wrote on her face:

" A fingerprint brand from a big hand

Who can remember a grip so tight it stained? "

This is part of a poem that is about the personal shame I feel is the only

gift nada every gave me. I am so afraid that everyone around me is trying to

change my personality. When I am facing critisism, I instantly go to that

place where I believe deep inside that the person I am is deeply deeply

flawed from the way I smile to the way my toes are shaped.

okay, not to jump right back into things, but that's where I have

been lately. How are you all? I did miss you guys and the support. I know

that I need it now. love, girlscout

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Thanks gals, It's good to be back. My honey lost his job yesterday. Hard

hard times. His company closed. The good news is he already has an interview

this afternoon. Is anyone else really struggling in the face of the economic

news? I am having such a hard time that I am going to limit how much news I

allow myself to see.

Hugs, GS

> One step in front of the other, as usual. Still struggling with constant

> second guessing abilities as a reasonable mother. Same old, same old.

> Hanging in there, moving forward.

> ***

> It is good to hear from you, I was wondering what happened. As far as I am

> concerned, who cares if anyone " gets " it.. The sculpture is more about

> getting the garbage out of you and giving it a voice that can't be put down.

> Our chief concern as KOs is to root out the negative that has been hammered

> into us and let it go. It is interesting that you depict your nada as a

> bird-like creature with a long neck. The first thought I had, when I read

> that, was of a bird of prey. Then I started thinking maybe vulture. No doubt

> a beady eyed hateful harpy, with all that implies. I picture a n

> straw hat like the anti-Poppins and a close stitched shawl, all the better

> to smoother your dreams with. The metal rings from collar bone to jaw are

> distorting her presence giving her height to tower over you and condescend

> your talent.

> I get the part about the stain that can't be removed.

> I hope it gets accepted.

> Keep moving on, chick.

>

>

>

> anxiety anyone?

>

>

> Hi Guys, I've been gone for a bit. How is everyone? I'm okay. Dealing with

> medication changes and all that, I just took some time off from the

> memories. I did finish a sculpture - of course, with quite a bit of an ugly

> tribute to Nada in it. I'll send an image to anyone who would like to see

> it. It's part of a series that is dedicated to nada which is called " women

> are birds. " Right now it is at a sculpture show waiting to see if it will

> be

> accepted.

>

> I want to describe it to see if it rings for anyone else.

> It's a woman's head. She is wearing a black hat, necklace that is just

> mutiple ring upon ring of metal and has feathers at her neck and collar

> bones. I paper mached over a long necked styrafoam head. Then I crocheted

> her outfit and wrote on her face:

>

> " A fingerprint brand from a big hand

> Who can remember a grip so tight it stained? "

>

> This is part of a poem that is about the personal shame I feel is the only

> gift nada every gave me. I am so afraid that everyone around me is trying

> to

> change my personality. When I am facing critisism, I instantly go to that

> place where I believe deep inside that the person I am is deeply deeply

> flawed from the way I smile to the way my toes are shaped.

>

> okay, not to jump right back into things, but that's where I have

> been lately. How are you all? I did miss you guys and the support. I know

> that I need it now. love, girlscout

>

>

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Oh yes I can relate. I lost my job in January. Ive been temping

since March and now that has dried up as well. I am leaving

California in a couple of weeks.

>

> > One step in front of the other, as usual. Still struggling with

constant

> > second guessing abilities as a reasonable mother. Same old, same old.

> > Hanging in there, moving forward.

> > ***

> > It is good to hear from you, I was wondering what happened. As far

as I am

> > concerned, who cares if anyone " gets " it.. The sculpture is more about

> > getting the garbage out of you and giving it a voice that can't be

put down.

> > Our chief concern as KOs is to root out the negative that has been

hammered

> > into us and let it go. It is interesting that you depict your nada

as a

> > bird-like creature with a long neck. The first thought I had, when

I read

> > that, was of a bird of prey. Then I started thinking maybe

vulture. No doubt

> > a beady eyed hateful harpy, with all that implies. I picture a

n

> > straw hat like the anti-Poppins and a close stitched shawl, all

the better

> > to smoother your dreams with. The metal rings from collar bone to

jaw are

> > distorting her presence giving her height to tower over you and

condescend

> > your talent.

> > I get the part about the stain that can't be removed.

> > I hope it gets accepted.

> > Keep moving on, chick.

> >

> >

> >

> > anxiety anyone?

> >

> >

> > Hi Guys, I've been gone for a bit. How is everyone? I'm okay.

Dealing with

> > medication changes and all that, I just took some time off from the

> > memories. I did finish a sculpture - of course, with quite a bit

of an ugly

> > tribute to Nada in it. I'll send an image to anyone who would like

to see

> > it. It's part of a series that is dedicated to nada which is

called " women

> > are birds. " Right now it is at a sculpture show waiting to see if

it will

> > be

> > accepted.

> >

> > I want to describe it to see if it rings for anyone else.

> > It's a woman's head. She is wearing a black hat, necklace that is just

> > mutiple ring upon ring of metal and has feathers at her neck and

collar

> > bones. I paper mached over a long necked styrafoam head. Then I

crocheted

> > her outfit and wrote on her face:

> >

> > " A fingerprint brand from a big hand

> > Who can remember a grip so tight it stained? "

> >

> > This is part of a poem that is about the personal shame I feel is

the only

> > gift nada every gave me. I am so afraid that everyone around me is

trying

> > to

> > change my personality. When I am facing critisism, I instantly go

to that

> > place where I believe deep inside that the person I am is deeply

deeply

> > flawed from the way I smile to the way my toes are shaped.

> >

> > okay, not to jump right back into things, but that's where I have

> > been lately. How are you all? I did miss you guys and the support.

I know

> > that I need it now. love, girlscout

> >

> >

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GS,

Welcome back! So sorry to hear about your husband. I hope his

interview goes well. :)

I do try to be very positive, but I do find the economic news very

unsettling. I think this whole political and economic mess is just so

wrong. We the Main Street people are getting the shaft...and I am of

course tired of it. We all are.

So at this present moment- I am just trying to make sense of this

all, and I am praying the gov't gets its act together. Somehow we

will bound back....we have too.

Malinda

In WTOAdultChildren1 , " Girlscout Cowboy "

wrote:

>

> Thanks gals, It's good to be back. My honey lost his job yesterday.

Hard

> hard times. His company closed. The good news is he already has an

interview

> this afternoon. Is anyone else really struggling in the face of the

economic

> news? I am having such a hard time that I am going to limit how

much news I

> allow myself to see.

>

> Hugs, GS

>

>

>

> > One step in front of the other, as usual. Still struggling with

constant

> > second guessing abilities as a reasonable mother. Same old, same

old.

> > Hanging in there, moving forward.

> > ***

> > It is good to hear from you, I was wondering what happened. As

far as I am

> > concerned, who cares if anyone " gets " it.. The sculpture is more

about

> > getting the garbage out of you and giving it a voice that can't

be put down.

> > Our chief concern as KOs is to root out the negative that has

been hammered

> > into us and let it go. It is interesting that you depict your

nada as a

> > bird-like creature with a long neck. The first thought I had,

when I read

> > that, was of a bird of prey. Then I started thinking maybe

vulture. No doubt

> > a beady eyed hateful harpy, with all that implies. I picture a

n

> > straw hat like the anti-Poppins and a close stitched shawl, all

the better

> > to smoother your dreams with. The metal rings from collar bone to

jaw are

> > distorting her presence giving her height to tower over you and

condescend

> > your talent.

> > I get the part about the stain that can't be removed.

> > I hope it gets accepted.

> > Keep moving on, chick.

> >

> >

> >

> > anxiety anyone?

> >

> >

> > Hi Guys, I've been gone for a bit. How is everyone? I'm okay.

Dealing with

> > medication changes and all that, I just took some time off from

the

> > memories. I did finish a sculpture - of course, with quite a bit

of an ugly

> > tribute to Nada in it. I'll send an image to anyone who would

like to see

> > it. It's part of a series that is dedicated to nada which is

called " women

> > are birds. " Right now it is at a sculpture show waiting to see if

it will

> > be

> > accepted.

> >

> > I want to describe it to see if it rings for anyone else.

> > It's a woman's head. She is wearing a black hat, necklace that is

just

> > mutiple ring upon ring of metal and has feathers at her neck and

collar

> > bones. I paper mached over a long necked styrafoam head. Then I

crocheted

> > her outfit and wrote on her face:

> >

> > " A fingerprint brand from a big hand

> > Who can remember a grip so tight it stained? "

> >

> > This is part of a poem that is about the personal shame I feel is

the only

> > gift nada every gave me. I am so afraid that everyone around me

is trying

> > to

> > change my personality. When I am facing critisism, I instantly go

to that

> > place where I believe deep inside that the person I am is deeply

deeply

> > flawed from the way I smile to the way my toes are shaped.

> >

> > okay, not to jump right back into things, but that's where I have

> > been lately. How are you all? I did miss you guys and the

support. I know

> > that I need it now. love, girlscout

> >

> >

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Good luck with the job search!! Yes, my family is really struggling

with this economy as well. My husband was downsized twice in 18

months. Our credit cards fed us for over a year. Now we are trying

to pay down major debt and raise two kids at the same time. We are

reducing spending everywhere (no eating out, buying no fresh

vegetables, used clothes for the kids, I'm cutting everyone's hair,

etc.) and the ends still aren't meeting. It makes it hard to fall

asleep at night!

le

>

> > One step in front of the other, as usual. Still struggling with

constant

> > second guessing abilities as a reasonable mother. Same old, same old.

> > Hanging in there, moving forward.

> > ***

> > It is good to hear from you, I was wondering what happened. As far

as I am

> > concerned, who cares if anyone " gets " it.. The sculpture is more about

> > getting the garbage out of you and giving it a voice that can't be

put down.

> > Our chief concern as KOs is to root out the negative that has been

hammered

> > into us and let it go. It is interesting that you depict your nada

as a

> > bird-like creature with a long neck. The first thought I had, when

I read

> > that, was of a bird of prey. Then I started thinking maybe

vulture. No doubt

> > a beady eyed hateful harpy, with all that implies. I picture a

n

> > straw hat like the anti-Poppins and a close stitched shawl, all

the better

> > to smoother your dreams with. The metal rings from collar bone to

jaw are

> > distorting her presence giving her height to tower over you and

condescend

> > your talent.

> > I get the part about the stain that can't be removed.

> > I hope it gets accepted.

> > Keep moving on, chick.

> >

> >

> >

> > anxiety anyone?

> >

> >

> > Hi Guys, I've been gone for a bit. How is everyone? I'm okay.

Dealing with

> > medication changes and all that, I just took some time off from the

> > memories. I did finish a sculpture - of course, with quite a bit

of an ugly

> > tribute to Nada in it. I'll send an image to anyone who would like

to see

> > it. It's part of a series that is dedicated to nada which is

called " women

> > are birds. " Right now it is at a sculpture show waiting to see if

it will

> > be

> > accepted.

> >

> > I want to describe it to see if it rings for anyone else.

> > It's a woman's head. She is wearing a black hat, necklace that is just

> > mutiple ring upon ring of metal and has feathers at her neck and

collar

> > bones. I paper mached over a long necked styrafoam head. Then I

crocheted

> > her outfit and wrote on her face:

> >

> > " A fingerprint brand from a big hand

> > Who can remember a grip so tight it stained? "

> >

> > This is part of a poem that is about the personal shame I feel is

the only

> > gift nada every gave me. I am so afraid that everyone around me is

trying

> > to

> > change my personality. When I am facing critisism, I instantly go

to that

> > place where I believe deep inside that the person I am is deeply

deeply

> > flawed from the way I smile to the way my toes are shaped.

> >

> > okay, not to jump right back into things, but that's where I have

> > been lately. How are you all? I did miss you guys and the support.

I know

> > that I need it now. love, girlscout

> >

> >

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Oh, I would love to see a picture of your image! I'm sure it was very

therapeutic creating it. That's quite a good outlet. I will sometimes write

about my nada for an outlet. It makes me both laugh and cry to do so.

Girlscout Cowboy wrote:

Hi Guys, I've been gone for a bit. How is everyone? I'm okay. Dealing

with

medication changes and all that, I just took some time off from the

memories. I did finish a sculpture - of course, with quite a bit of an ugly

tribute to Nada in it. I'll send an image to anyone who would like to see

it. It's part of a series that is dedicated to nada which is called " women

are birds. " Right now it is at a sculpture show waiting to see if it will be

accepted.

I want to describe it to see if it rings for anyone else.

It's a woman's head. She is wearing a black hat, necklace that is just

mutiple ring upon ring of metal and has feathers at her neck and collar

bones. I paper mached over a long necked styrafoam head. Then I crocheted

her outfit and wrote on her face:

" A fingerprint brand from a big hand

Who can remember a grip so tight it stained? "

This is part of a poem that is about the personal shame I feel is the only

gift nada every gave me. I am so afraid that everyone around me is trying to

change my personality. When I am facing critisism, I instantly go to that

place where I believe deep inside that the person I am is deeply deeply

flawed from the way I smile to the way my toes are shaped.

okay, not to jump right back into things, but that's where I have

been lately. How are you all? I did miss you guys and the support. I know

that I need it now. love, girlscout

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Good news guys, My honey got a temp job today for the next 3 months. Lets

all say a little prayer. i will get that image and send it out as soon as I

can. It's on my home computer and I'm at work, of course.

> Oh, I would love to see a picture of your image! I'm sure it was very

> therapeutic creating it. That's quite a good outlet. I will sometimes write

> about my nada for an outlet. It makes me both laugh and cry to do so.

>

>

> Girlscout Cowboy <girlscout.cowboy@...<girlscout.cowboy%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> Hi Guys, I've been gone for a bit. How is everyone? I'm okay. Dealing with

> medication changes and all that, I just took some time off from the

> memories. I did finish a sculpture - of course, with quite a bit of an ugly

> tribute to Nada in it. I'll send an image to anyone who would like to see

> it. It's part of a series that is dedicated to nada which is called " women

> are birds. " Right now it is at a sculpture show waiting to see if it will

> be

> accepted.

>

> I want to describe it to see if it rings for anyone else.

> It's a woman's head. She is wearing a black hat, necklace that is just

> mutiple ring upon ring of metal and has feathers at her neck and collar

> bones. I paper mached over a long necked styrafoam head. Then I crocheted

> her outfit and wrote on her face:

>

> " A fingerprint brand from a big hand

> Who can remember a grip so tight it stained? "

>

> This is part of a poem that is about the personal shame I feel is the only

> gift nada every gave me. I am so afraid that everyone around me is trying

> to

> change my personality. When I am facing critisism, I instantly go to that

> place where I believe deep inside that the person I am is deeply deeply

> flawed from the way I smile to the way my toes are shaped.

>

> okay, not to jump right back into things, but that's where I have

> been lately. How are you all? I did miss you guys and the support. I know

> that I need it now. love, girlscout

>

>

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Gs....Great news!!Thanks for sharing!

Malinda

In WTOAdultChildren1 , " Girlscout Cowboy "

wrote:

>

> Good news guys, My honey got a temp job today for the next 3

months. Lets

> all say a little prayer. i will get that image and send it out as

soon as I

> can. It's on my home computer and I'm at work, of course.

>

>

>

> > Oh, I would love to see a picture of your image! I'm sure it

was very

> > therapeutic creating it. That's quite a good outlet. I will

sometimes write

> > about my nada for an outlet. It makes me both laugh and cry to do

so.

> >

> >

> > Girlscout Cowboy <girlscout.cowboy@...<girlscout.cowboy%

40gmail.com>>

> > wrote:

> > Hi Guys, I've been gone for a bit. How is everyone? I'm okay.

Dealing with

> > medication changes and all that, I just took some time off from

the

> > memories. I did finish a sculpture - of course, with quite a bit

of an ugly

> > tribute to Nada in it. I'll send an image to anyone who would

like to see

> > it. It's part of a series that is dedicated to nada which is

called " women

> > are birds. " Right now it is at a sculpture show waiting to see if

it will

> > be

> > accepted.

> >

> > I want to describe it to see if it rings for anyone else.

> > It's a woman's head. She is wearing a black hat, necklace that is

just

> > mutiple ring upon ring of metal and has feathers at her neck and

collar

> > bones. I paper mached over a long necked styrafoam head. Then I

crocheted

> > her outfit and wrote on her face:

> >

> > " A fingerprint brand from a big hand

> > Who can remember a grip so tight it stained? "

> >

> > This is part of a poem that is about the personal shame I feel is

the only

> > gift nada every gave me. I am so afraid that everyone around me

is trying

> > to

> > change my personality. When I am facing critisism, I instantly go

to that

> > place where I believe deep inside that the person I am is deeply

deeply

> > flawed from the way I smile to the way my toes are shaped.

> >

> > okay, not to jump right back into things, but that's where I have

> > been lately. How are you all? I did miss you guys and the

support. I know

> > that I need it now. love, girlscout

> >

> >

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Hi Girlscout Cowboy,

I think that's wonderful that you are utilizing your art and

creativity to express your feelings about your nada's abuse!

That has got to be a very healthy outlet; that's marvelous that you

are entering your art in a sculpting show, Go GC!

And I know what you mean, my nada also made me (and Sister) ashamed of

our very being. My memories of having every physical flaw pointed out

and clucked over go way back. I would be made fun of when my knees

were bandaged for scrapes. She sighed with sadness when my ears

showed: she thought they were huge. I too was ashamed to smile because

I had a gap between my front teeth. She told me my glasses made me

look ugly. She hated my hair and made me wear it in the same style as

hers. She made fun of my posture. My hands were shaped like my dad's

so (according to nada) they were ugly and unfeminine. By the time I

hit puberty and got pimples (of course I would get pimples; nada had

never had pimples) I became so self-conscious I could barely bring

myself to look other people in the eye. If there had been a way for

me to not go out in public I would have become a teen-aged recluse.

And just FYI, looking at photos of myself from late childhood/early

teen years: I looked absolutely normal and average. Even kind of cute.

But I was not tall, leggy, or busty with striking good looks,

porcelain skin, lustrous thick hair or perfect vision. I was not an

unusually talented dancer, singer, or musician, not the smartest kid

in class, or scholarship material. So nada was perpetually

disappointed with me, and let me know it.

I was apparently supposed to become rich and famous (she wanted me to

be on TV, kept pushing for it) so that she could bask in reflected glory.

Sorry, nada.

I'm happy being just normal and average! If you want wealth and fame,

YOU go do something striking and original and earn it for yourself.

-Annie

> > Hi Guys, I've been gone for a bit. How is everyone? I'm okay.

Dealing with

> > medication changes and all that, I just took some time off from the

> > memories. I did finish a sculpture - of course, with quite a bit

of an ugly

> > tribute to Nada in it. I'll send an image to anyone who would like

to see

> > it. It's part of a series that is dedicated to nada which is

called " women

> > are birds. " Right now it is at a sculpture show waiting to see if

it will

> > be

> > accepted.

> >

> > I want to describe it to see if it rings for anyone else.

> > It's a woman's head. She is wearing a black hat, necklace that is just

> > mutiple ring upon ring of metal and has feathers at her neck and

collar

> > bones. I paper mached over a long necked styrafoam head. Then I

crocheted

> > her outfit and wrote on her face:

> >

> > " A fingerprint brand from a big hand

> > Who can remember a grip so tight it stained? "

> >

> > This is part of a poem that is about the personal shame I feel is

the only

> > gift nada every gave me. I am so afraid that everyone around me is

trying

> > to

> > change my personality. When I am facing critisism, I instantly go

to that

> > place where I believe deep inside that the person I am is deeply

deeply

> > flawed from the way I smile to the way my toes are shaped.

> >

> > okay, not to jump right back into things, but that's where I have

> > been lately. How are you all? I did miss you guys and the support.

I know

> > that I need it now. love, girlscout

> >

> >

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