Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Please forgive my lack of familiarity with the abreviations used on this message board...I joined today in the hope that I may discover whether this could possibly be true-that only at 41 I discover that my father could have BPD? Embarassingly, I work as a psychotherapist, though I do not specialise in BPD and the few BPD patients I have worked with were " typical " self-harm'ers (cutting, burning, OD's) etc. so when my lightbulb moment re-my father occurred a few days ago I started doubting myself because I have never seen or known my dad to self- harm and therefore thought " it can't be " . In a nutshell, I live in another country from my parents-I left 17 years ago. As an only child, I felt I needed to grow and wanted my independance-my father has always been very suffocating and overprotective. Over the years, he has had the occasional temper tantrums, triggered by events like not getting his own way, or hearing that he has offended me or my mother (he can't cope with knowing he has hurt us).....I concluded this week that he has a fragile sense of self. I say " this week " because he has just spent one week visiting me-we went away for a few days and when we got back to our hotel room one night we were chatting and I said something to the effect " you have said some mean things to me over the years " and he flew off the handle, proceeded to tell me he never wants to see me ever again, demanded his passport cause he wanted to fly home (he was 9 hours, and 3-flights away from home....this is all happening at 11PM) and he then proceeded to throw something on the floor, clenching his fists to show me how angry he is and he began having an actual tantrum, shouting (telling me he doesn't care if he wakes the other hotel guests), etc. Now, over the years, my mother has told me about his tantrums and as I had only witnessed 2 in the last few years (both times they were visiting me) I never really appreciated what she was saying. As I said, he was visiting me for a week, left today, and had another tantrum this AM (he did not fly home the other night....) though I did get myself another room in the hotel because I did not feel safe being with him. My first issue is that I am feeling mildly bad right now because when I dropped him off at the airport, I could hardly face looking at him-I gave him his bags, said have a nice flight and drove off. I am very angry with him because my entire life he has put me down, put my friends down, put my mother down (she has always had a weight problem and he feeds on that by putting her down), and over the years he has walked out on my mother a few times, again, out of anger, or out of wanting " something else " . My father lives his life according to " the grass is greener " ; he always wants what everyone else has, compares himself to others but to make himself feel " adaquate " he puts everyone else down. He is never content with what he has. He has poor emotional regulation skills, and sulks when he does not get his way. He also has one set of rules for himself, and another for us (if he walks a few paces in front of us, it is fine-he doesn't care that we walk behind him even though we are out as a family) but if I am walking a few paces ahead (as I was today) he shouts, makes a scene and demands that I wait for him. And then when I point out that he does the same, he flies off the handle......this is when the penny dropped and I thought " this seems more like B PD behaviour than depression)!! I bought Stop Walking On Eggshells years ago, mainly for my clinical practice, and when I picked it up today to flip through the sections on your BPS parent, I was struck by how many of the examples describe my father (putting others down so he can feel good about himself), etc. He had been diagnosed with depression years ago and was on anti- depressants. I don't know if he still takes them but he is miserable ALL THE TIME, complains about everything, is very dichotomous in his thinking and my biggest concern right now is that my mother was diagnosed with diabetes a few months ago, she is still overweight (66 years old), unfit, and I really realised this past week that my fatyher is a BULLY, and my mother just takes it. When I told her how difficult he was (we spoke on the phone a lot while he was here) she told me that she just puts up with it because she is " too old " to argue with him, although she said she does scream back at him at times. As a therapist I realise that a person cannot make you feel inferior without your consent but I think we all know that when the the BPD puts you down so consistently and regularly, they do start having you believe you are NOTHING. My mother should have left him years ago, and when I told her that she said " how do I know that someone else wouldn't treat me ths same way " . I tried to explain to her that she deserves to be with someone who respects her and that my father does not respect her and treats her like crap (which she admits). Another concern is that my mother to's and fro's from agreeing with me by saying " I told you so " -she spent at least 15 years of my adult life telling me what an ass he is to her, but then she tends to protect him by saying " that's what happens when you haven't lived with someone in so long " . I tried to explain to her that this is not about him leaving wet towels on the floor and that it bothers me cause I not used to living with him-I said he has tantrums that are not acceptable!. From reading some of the other postings I can relate to this issue of other family members thinking he is just wonderful, such a nice, generous guy, etc. Nobody sees the unstable side to him except me and my mother. Though I have heard him in the past shout at the " girls " who work for him. I suppose I am posting this for three reasons: 1) to ask whether a person can be BPD without the self-harm and 2) how do I help my mother and 3) deal with my own guilt of not even hugging him when I dropped him off at the airport? I have no desire to see him again- that's how angry I am. I trained in cognitive behavioural therapy and I am aware that if I see him again or speak to him, etc. he will interpret this as " your behaviour is ok/acceptable " . My tolerance for his " crap " is less than my mother's and as she says, it is because she has to live with him. I am most upset at that face. My anger towards him this week has been so strong I cannot tell you how many " fantasies " I had about punching him in his head (I am NOT a violent person....these were fantasies) because I hold him partially responsible for my mother's weight problem (she has coped with his awful behaviour by comfort eating and her health is deteriorating ...high blood pressure, high cholesterol and diabetes). My father is impossible yet I do not live with them or in the same city (we are oceans apart) and I had not seen my father in over a year. My mother was here in May and I am trying to get her to come back in October-November. I miss her terribly and if it weren't for him I may visit her more but I can't stand going home. I have left a lot out but he is controlling-he has always controlled me with money....he'll pay for me to fly home and see them but if I want to go anywhere else on holiday/short break, he'd never offer to pay (and I never ask). The point is...he wants me to move back home and only " gives " as a way of manipulating me to move home (in his opinion my living away reflects badly on him). He manipulates and controls in a lot of other ways too-with guilt, etc. He cried today on the way to the airport-I just ignored him-I could not empathise. Being on the end of his tantrums makes it very difficult to empathise. He also cried the other night in the hotel room. Little does he know he is the reason I moved so far away. He is also very obsessional, and his mother apparently had bipolar disorder. He has said things like " what is wrong with you " and " who would want you " throughout my entire life-that is his " humor " . He puts people down to make himself feel good. All I know is that I am successful in spite of/despite him; not thanks to him. He has helped out financially, and I won't discredit him for that but he thinks that giving someone money is " love " . He has also said to my mother on so many occasions " what is wrong with you " ?? and she has low self-esteem-she may have had low self-esteem when they met and just preyed on that, I don't know. I feel so awful for her and can't believe she has stayed married to such an ass!. It is my belief that she does not think she deserves better or can meet anyone better. Any support would be much appreciated. I feel alone right now because I have not spoken to any of my friends about his visit-I don't want to disclose too much. Thanks, and best wishes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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