Re: Does too much protein congest lymphatic system & lead to cancer?

[Guest guest]

The protein in the lymph system is likely caused by enzyme deficiency,

which could be from many things not just high protein. I think

fluoride may play a factor here as it inhibits many enzymes.

Overeating in any sense would be a big cause...as the pancreas would

be stressed and not produce enough enzymes overall.

If your concerned I think some strong enyzyme supplements would help,

either from animals or from bromelain.

Remember, Weston A Price himself thought one egg or the equivalent was

enough animal protein daily.

I personally feel a lot better eating small amounts of high quality

raw animal protein...and eating more protein only throws off my meal

times because it just stabilizes my blood sugar too much (and I only

eat twice a day most days without snacking). For me 20-25g of protein

a day from animal sources is plenty from experimenting.

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--- In , " haecklers " <haecklers@...>

wrote:

>

> One thing we can take for granted about the whole Native Nutrition

> thing is that the " natives " who ate it were much more active than we

> are; so what was good for them in their lifestyle may not be as good

> for us in ours, especially if we get as much exercise as the typical

> American.

>

> I've been obsessively researching the lymphatic system after

> reading " The Trial and Persecution of Gaston Naessens. " He said

> broken protein molecules clog the lymphatic system. Hmmm. Two

> things strike me there (in a WAP kind of way) - first, they ate more

> of their protein raw, so there would have been more enzymes for

> digesting it, so it wouldn't deplete the body's protease as much as

> if people were eating dead, cooked protein. And second, they got a

> lot more exercise than we do, so their lymphatic system wouldn't be

> as prone to becoming clogged/congested. What makes this key in

> importance is Naessen's theory that the clogged/congested lymphatic

> system is a major contributor to cancer and other chronic diseases.

> He had his formula 714X that was supposed to unclog the lymphatic

> system and cure cancer, which many people said worked really well.

>

> So if we are less active, should we be eating less protein? And if

> we aren't eating it raw, should we be taking protease supplements at

> least some of the time?? HMMMM...

>

[Guest guest]

,

When did he say one egg a day was enough protein? Was he discounting

the amount of protein in milk/cheese?

Interesting you bring up that about the fluoride, I was wondering

about that as well, or what could be causing the protease deficiency

I'm finding out so many of my friends have. Yes, fluoride DOES

inhibit enzymes, doesn't it???

--- In , " gdawson6 " <gdawson6@...>

wrote:

>

> The protein in the lymph system is likely caused by enzyme

deficiency,

> which could be from many things not just high protein. I think

> fluoride may play a factor here as it inhibits many enzymes.

> Overeating in any sense would be a big cause...as the pancreas would

> be stressed and not produce enough enzymes overall.

>

> If your concerned I think some strong enyzyme supplements would

help,

> either from animals or from bromelain.

>

> Remember, Weston A Price himself thought one egg or the equivalent

was

> enough animal protein daily.

>

> I personally feel a lot better eating small amounts of high quality

> raw animal protein...and eating more protein only throws off my meal

> times because it just stabilizes my blood sugar too much (and I only

> eat twice a day most days without snacking). For me 20-25g of

protein

> a day from animal sources is plenty from experimenting.

>

> -

[Guest guest]

> Remember, Weston A Price himself thought one egg or the equivalent was

> enough animal protein daily.

Where did you find this quote? I never heard this before.

Ann Marie

[Guest guest]

" The protein requirement can be provided each day in one egg or a

piece of meat equivalent to the bulk of one egg a day. "

http://www.ppnf.org/catalog/ppnf/Articles/PriceLetter.htm

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>

>

> > Remember, Weston A Price himself thought one egg or the equivalent was

> > enough animal protein daily.

>

> Where did you find this quote? I never heard this before.

>

> Ann Marie

>

[Guest guest]

this quote is also on p. 215 of NT.

> >

> >

> > > Remember, Weston A Price himself thought one egg or the equivalent was

> > > enough animal protein daily.

> >

> > Where did you find this quote? I never heard this before.

> >

> > Ann Marie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> eating more protein only throws off my meal

> times because it just stabilizes my blood sugar too much (and I only

> eat twice a day most days without snacking). For me 20-25g of protein

> a day from animal sources is plenty from experimenting.

> -

What do you mean by " stabilizes my blood sugar too much? " I never

heard of that. (do you mean you don't get enough rollercoaster swings

of too-much and then too little blood sugar, I ask myself, and that

probably ain't it...)

[Guest guest]

--- In , " cbrown2008 " <cbrown2008@...>

wrote:

>

> > eating more protein only throws off my meal

> > times because it just stabilizes my blood sugar too much (and I only

> > eat twice a day most days without snacking). For me 20-25g of protein

> > a day from animal sources is plenty from experimenting.

> > -

>

>

> What do you mean by " stabilizes my blood sugar too much? " I never

> heard of that. (do you mean you don't get enough rollercoaster swings

> of too-much and then too little blood sugar, I ask myself, and that

> probably ain't it...)

>

Well blood sugar is what gives you the sensation of feeling hungry if

I remember correctly. So when I feel hungry I assume my blood sugar

has dropped down...and If I don't get hungry long after I've eaten I

would say my blood sugar is stable and I just won't feel like eating.

So if I eat breakfast, say like 20g of raw beef protein along with

probably 400-800 calories from fat, I won't feel hungry for lunch and

when dinner time comes around many times I still won't feel very

hungry. Its not like I felt like I ate too much for breakfast, my

body just seems to be efficient and doesn't need much protein to feel

stable. Also, eating when you don't feel hungry is just a bad idea

IMO and it never makes me feel good. I really feel like your body is

much more efficient at assimilating nutrients if you eat according to

how hungry you feel and wait until you feel really hungry. Your

digestion will be more complete and your intestines should be more

balanced flora wise.

So usually I try to keep my protein consumption lower so I feel nice

and hungry for both breakfast and dinner. Something like a cup or so

of raw kefir w/ extra cream, an egg yolk, and some organic raspberries

is one of my favorite meals.

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[Guest guest]

So are you thin or average weight? Are you trying to keep yourself

hungry so you'll eat because you don't want to get thinner? Just

curious.

I lose my appetite when I'm busy doing things I enjoy, I eat much

more when I'm bored. That's also when I read cookbooks and try new

recipes, which can be bad when you're trying not to overeat.

> >

> > > eating more protein only throws off my meal

> > > times because it just stabilizes my blood sugar too much (and I

only

> > > eat twice a day most days without snacking). For me 20-25g of

protein

> > > a day from animal sources is plenty from experimenting.

> > > -

> >

> >

> > What do you mean by " stabilizes my blood sugar too much? " I

never

> > heard of that. (do you mean you don't get enough rollercoaster

swings

> > of too-much and then too little blood sugar, I ask myself, and

that

> > probably ain't it...)

> >

>

> Well blood sugar is what gives you the sensation of feeling hungry

if

> I remember correctly. So when I feel hungry I assume my blood sugar

> has dropped down...and If I don't get hungry long after I've eaten I

> would say my blood sugar is stable and I just won't feel like

eating.

>

> So if I eat breakfast, say like 20g of raw beef protein along with

> probably 400-800 calories from fat, I won't feel hungry for lunch

and

> when dinner time comes around many times I still won't feel very

> hungry. Its not like I felt like I ate too much for breakfast, my

> body just seems to be efficient and doesn't need much protein to

feel

> stable. Also, eating when you don't feel hungry is just a bad idea

> IMO and it never makes me feel good. I really feel like your body

is

> much more efficient at assimilating nutrients if you eat according

to

> how hungry you feel and wait until you feel really hungry. Your

> digestion will be more complete and your intestines should be more

> balanced flora wise.

>

>

> So usually I try to keep my protein consumption lower so I feel nice

> and hungry for both breakfast and dinner. Something like a cup or

so

> of raw kefir w/ extra cream, an egg yolk, and some organic

raspberries

> is one of my favorite meals.

>

> -

>

[Guest guest]

I'm thin. I can gain weight if I eat a lot of butter, but I really

feel better if I keep it to 400-800 calories of fat per meal (@ 2

meals a day). When I was 'average' weight I was eating 1200-1600

calories from fat per meal, and I seemed to digest all the fat fine.

Its not that I don't want to get thinner or even worry about my

weight, I just feel more balanced physically and mentally if I eat two

moderate meals and sometimes a light lunch rather than one heavy meal

and a light meal. I feel sharper and can meditate better if my

meals are light...which is very important to me.

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> > >

> > > > eating more protein only throws off my meal

> > > > times because it just stabilizes my blood sugar too much (and I

> only

> > > > eat twice a day most days without snacking). For me 20-25g of

> protein

> > > > a day from animal sources is plenty from experimenting.

> > > > -

> > >

> > >

> > > What do you mean by " stabilizes my blood sugar too much? " I

> never

> > > heard of that. (do you mean you don't get enough rollercoaster

> swings

> > > of too-much and then too little blood sugar, I ask myself, and

> that

> > > probably ain't it...)

> > >

> >

> > Well blood sugar is what gives you the sensation of feeling hungry

> if

> > I remember correctly. So when I feel hungry I assume my blood sugar

> > has dropped down...and If I don't get hungry long after I've eaten I

> > would say my blood sugar is stable and I just won't feel like

> eating.

> >

> > So if I eat breakfast, say like 20g of raw beef protein along with

> > probably 400-800 calories from fat, I won't feel hungry for lunch

> and

> > when dinner time comes around many times I still won't feel very

> > hungry. Its not like I felt like I ate too much for breakfast, my

> > body just seems to be efficient and doesn't need much protein to

> feel

> > stable. Also, eating when you don't feel hungry is just a bad idea

> > IMO and it never makes me feel good. I really feel like your body

> is

> > much more efficient at assimilating nutrients if you eat according

> to

> > how hungry you feel and wait until you feel really hungry. Your

> > digestion will be more complete and your intestines should be more

> > balanced flora wise.

> >

> >

> > So usually I try to keep my protein consumption lower so I feel nice

> > and hungry for both breakfast and dinner. Something like a cup or

> so

> > of raw kefir w/ extra cream, an egg yolk, and some organic

> raspberries

> > is one of my favorite meals.

> >

> > -

> >

>