Guest guest Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Hi, No doubt the same way that aluminum(alum) is in cooking ware. Just, Jim crayfishfeed <crayfishfeed@...> wrote: I saw this listed in the deodorant that I use from whole foods, does anyone know if this ingredient is problematic to the body? Well done is better than well said..., Jim Igo --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I researched this once and concluded that it was safe. it is a natural mineral, unrelated to aluminum. Tamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Tamara- > I researched this once and concluded that it was safe. it is a natural > mineral, unrelated to aluminum. Unrelated to aluminum? It's aluminum potassium phosphate and related salts! They're called " alum " because they contain aluminum. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 So I guess I should be returning this product back to good old whole foods. I thought this product was too good to be true anyway. I never use antiperspirant and with the old deodorant I used, I could smell a little bit of sweat on my shirt at the end of the day but with this crystal deodorant, there was no smell at all. I hear somewhere you could use coconut oil as deodorant...that did not work for me. > > Tamara- > > > I researched this once and concluded that it was safe. it is a natural > > mineral, unrelated to aluminum. > > Unrelated to aluminum? It's aluminum potassium phosphate and related > salts! They're called " alum " because they contain aluminum. > > - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Well there is always a lot of aluminum in clays (like 60% by weight in many) and they were commonly eaten by natives. The size of the molecule is just too big to be absorbed or there is something else that prevents you from absorbing it. So just because something has aluminum doesn't mean much IMO, unless its ionic (like from cookware) or easily absorbed. I personally have a 4oz bottle of pure lavender oil and dab some on my finger and rub it on my armpit. Works great for me. I suppose some coconut oil would help if the essential oil is too strong when its pure, but it doesn't irritate me. - > > > > Tamara- > > > > > I researched this once and concluded that it was safe. it is a natural > > > mineral, unrelated to aluminum. > > > > Unrelated to aluminum? It's aluminum potassium phosphate and related > > salts! They're called " alum " because they contain aluminum. > > > > - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 - > Well there is always a lot of aluminum in clays (like 60% by weight in > many) and they were commonly eaten by natives. The size of the > molecule is just too big to be absorbed or there is something else > that prevents you from absorbing it. So just because something has > aluminum doesn't mean much IMO, unless its ionic (like from cookware) > or easily absorbed. True... but it probably wouldn't be a good idea to eat clay on a consistent basis. I think generally it's just been used as a short- term therapeutic. And some alum salts are actually pretty soluble in water, meaning aluminum could well be liberated. Wikipedia has a chart of some solubility data. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alum - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Well I emailed the company a question about the alum salts and it will be interesting to note their response. > > - > > > Well there is always a lot of aluminum in clays (like 60% by weight in > > many) and they were commonly eaten by natives. The size of the > > molecule is just too big to be absorbed or there is something else > > that prevents you from absorbing it. So just because something has > > aluminum doesn't mean much IMO, unless its ionic (like from cookware) > > or easily absorbed. > > True... but it probably wouldn't be a good idea to eat clay on a > consistent basis. I think generally it's just been used as a short- > term therapeutic. And some alum salts are actually pretty soluble in > water, meaning aluminum could well be liberated. Wikipedia has a > chart of some solubility data. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alum > > - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 A few years ago someone on this list told me to use vinegar, and I have been using that ever since. I just wipe with vinegar every morning. It kills the bacteria. On hot days, I sometimes need a second swipe, but it works for me. Ann > > > > Tamara- > > > > > I researched this once and concluded that it was safe. it is a natural > > > mineral, unrelated to aluminum. > > > > Unrelated to aluminum? It's aluminum potassium phosphate and related > > salts! They're called " alum " because they contain aluminum. > > > > - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Vinegar also works as a mosquito repellant, just a quick spray on the ankles and exposed arms and they will come no where near you. My mom won't use it because she says she doesn't want to walk around smelling like a pickle, and she is the one in our group that complains about getting eaten alive. The rest of us wear it, the smell dissipates quickly, but the mosquito's can still smell it and they hate it. It's the proven method, and it's safe! HTH, Sal! few years ago someone on this list told me to use vinegar, and I have been using that ever since. I just wipe with vinegar every morning. It kills the bacteria. On hot days, I sometimes need a second swipe, but it works for me. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 What kind of vinegar do you use? Sandy > > > > > > Tamara- > > > > > > > I researched this once and concluded that it was safe. it is a > natural > > > > mineral, unrelated to aluminum. > > > > > > Unrelated to aluminum? It's aluminum potassium phosphate and > related > > > salts! They're called " alum " because they contain aluminum. > > > > > > - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 It doesn't irritate your skin? The thing with the vinegar, coconut oil baking soda suggestions is I am wondering if people get honest feedback. There's only certain types of people who will tell you when you smell bad and it's hard to smell your own stink to see if it's working. I remember when I lived in Spain for a few months, practically everyone had body odor there. I got used to it and it's not such a big deal for me but I know for other people it's really offensive if they smell b.o. on other people. > > > > > > Tamara- > > > > > > > I researched this once and concluded that it was safe. it is a > natural > > > > mineral, unrelated to aluminum. > > > > > > Unrelated to aluminum? It's aluminum potassium phosphate and > related > > > salts! They're called " alum " because they contain aluminum. > > > > > > - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 I just found a wonderful roll-on deodorant, called Herbal Magic, made be Home Health Co. I have it in Jasmine scent, but there's also unscented and probably others too. Ingredients: Algae extract, aloe vera gel, deionized water, witch hazel, sodium bicarbonate, herbal extracts (fennel, hops, chamomile, balm mint, mistletoe, and yarrow), grapefruit seed extract, jasmine fragrance. It works great and smells fabulous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 << The thing with the vinegar, coconut oil baking soda suggestions is I am wondering if people get honest feedback. >> Too true! But I will recommend a product that DOES work, and very efficiently as well. Its called Trust and comes from israel origionally although the stuff that I am buying in the UK from selfridges or Boots (a large multiple) seems to be made in the UK as well. Here is a web reference: (http://www.ciao.co.uk/Trust__Review_50639 <http://www.ciao.co.uk/Trust__Review_50639> ) Its comes in a miniscule little jar and costs a lot - but you just use a bit so it lasts a long time. (Unless you use it for your feet as well!) But its effective for 5 to 15 days on one application - how often you use it depends on your own metabolism, health and age. Note that its a bacteria (hence odour) killer, not also an anti-persperant - you will still sweat, but your sweat won't smell because the bacteria are dead. Its herbal and on my personal list (very short!) of things that actually work. Just google trust and there is lots of info about and possibly on-line places to buy it. regards from edella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 I just ordered some of this in herbal scent- hasn't arrived yet- but I thought the ingredient list included potassium alum salts. Desh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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