H. pylori

[Guest guest]

I recall that h. pylori is treatable with medication. It is caused by

a bacterial infection from contaminated food. And successful treatment

with the appropriate antibacterial medication would work.

I find it interesting that doctors don't treat it. My mother has had

gastric ulcer for years...and never have they suggested she be treated

to cure it. Try searching the old post for more information.

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> has anyone been diagnosed with H. Pylori, how did you treat it?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I know someone who was tested for this earlier this week. They used

a test where she had blow into a solution (pink) until it turned

clear. Apparently this is " new " technology in Australia and is more

accurate than the blood test.

The normal treatment is antibiotics, though did read that an extract

taken from broccoli sprouts (equiv to 1 ounce sprouts/day/30 days)

is showing the same level of success.

na

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> > > has anyone been diagnosed with H. Pylori, how did you treat

it?

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Your son may not have an active h. pylori infection at all. My 6

year old NT son had mono in December determined via a blood test.

The bloodwork also showed a positive H. Pylori result. My

pediatrician wanted to start him on the antibiotic regimen once he

was recovered from mono. My sister-in-law, a pediatrician, said that

a blood test for H. pylori is unreliable as it does not show a

current infection, only that the antibodies are present from perhaps

a past infection and that there is a high rate of false positive

results. We then recently consulted with my son's gastroenterologist

who had tested for h. pylori with a stool test(among other things) a

year ago when I took him in for frequent stomachaches. It was

negative at that time. The gastroenterologist concurred with my

sister-in-law regarding the blood test, which is why he never ran it

last year, and we are going to re-test the stool which is the most

sensitive and accurate way to diagnose h. pylori. There is also a

Urea breath test that used to be done to diagnose h. pylori but it

is not widely used anymore and is very expensive.

GSE should be effective against h. pylori due to its antibacterial

properties. You will most likely need to give a probiotic about 2

hours away from it to repopulate the good bacteria though.

HTH,

>

> Dana, or anyone who can help,

>

> My older son who is not autistic, but does have asthma, was

recently

> diagnosed w/ H. Pylori via a blood test.

>

> Our doctor wants to use anti-biotics to treat, but I am leary of

this.

> What is useful in getting rid of H. Pylori?

>

> I searched the archives, but only found one reference that seemed

> relevant to my son's situation: use GSE -- drops being more

powerful.

>

> My cupboard is armed with:

> uva ursi

> olive leaf extract

> garlic

>

> Should I rotate these in? Is there anything I can use so I don't

have

> to end up giving him antibiotics.

>

> I also do rotate into his supplement regimen a different probiotic

each

> day.

>

>

> TIA,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana, or anyone who can help,

>

> My older son who is not autistic, but does have asthma, was recently

> diagnosed w/ H. Pylori via a blood test.

I use olive leaf extract as an antibiotic. It has worked great for my

family.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hey all,

I'm wondering what you all know about H. pylori and ways to get rid of

it. My husband has symptoms of it (recurring ulcer) that have mostly

gone away since eating NT, but seem to creep back up again when he's

stressed out. I'm not 100% sure that he has it -- he's never been

tested, but it's very likely.

I'm also curious about the supposed link between H. pylori and cea.

I've read that there's zero link, and that it's very related. Any

thoughts?

I'm starting to think that he may need to go on the GAPS diet, but I'm

reluctant to mention it -- he gets SO depressed when he can't have

certain foods! Plus he already thinks I'm a fanatic about nutrition.

Help!

[Guest guest]

There's a yeast, s. boulardii that is non-colonizing (won't aggravate

candida, etc.) that is supposed to be very good against h. pylori.

It is contained in the whitish coating on grapes, blueberries,

cabbages, etc. and is in homemade sauerkraut; you can also buy it as

pills. I believe it works fairly quickly, like a week or so, but who

knows how long it takes for the damage from the h. p. to heal.

--- In , " " <mattandgina@...>

wrote:

>

> Hey all,

>

> I'm wondering what you all know about H. pylori and ways to get rid

of

> it. My husband has symptoms of it (recurring ulcer) that have

mostly

> gone away since eating NT, but seem to creep back up again when

he's

> stressed out. I'm not 100% sure that he has it -- he's never been

> tested, but it's very likely.

>

> I'm also curious about the supposed link between H. pylori and

cea.

> I've read that there's zero link, and that it's very related. Any

> thoughts?

>

> I'm starting to think that he may need to go on the GAPS diet, but

I'm

> reluctant to mention it -- he gets SO depressed when he can't have

> certain foods! Plus he already thinks I'm a fanatic about

nutrition.

> Help!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I really recommend reading this book, " Why Stomach

Acid is Good For You "

http://www.amazon.com/Why-Stomach-Acid-Good-You/dp/0871319314/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie\

=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1210097589 & sr=1-1

Following the instructions in that book is what

finally got rid of my gastric reflux a few years ago.

On top of his suggestions, I also super-dosed on

probiotics...kombucha, rejuvelac, fermented foods,

Garden of Life probiotic supplements. I found mastic

gum to be a godsend in giving me almost immediate

relief.

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[Guest guest]

I'd read up on symptoms of low stomach acid. I got gastritis, which

can be caused by h. pylori, but mine was due to low stomach acid.

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:50 PM, <mattandgina@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hey all,

>

> I'm wondering what you all know about H. pylori and ways to get rid of

> it. My husband has symptoms of it (recurring ulcer) that have mostly

> gone away since eating NT, but seem to creep back up again when he's

> stressed out. I'm not 100% sure that he has it -- he's never been

> tested, but it's very likely.

>

> I'm also curious about the supposed link between H. pylori and cea.

> I've read that there's zero link, and that it's very related. Any

> thoughts?

>

> I'm starting to think that he may need to go on the GAPS diet, but I'm

> reluctant to mention it -- he gets SO depressed when he can't have

> certain foods! Plus he already thinks I'm a fanatic about nutrition.

> Help!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so far guys!

I think I'm done panicking about it now. We've been swallowing crushed raw

garlic at bedtime and it seems to be helping both of us. I'm also going to start

us on P73 Oregano oil, which should help many different things.

[Guest guest]

--- Aramburu <mattandgina@...> wrote:

> I think I'm done panicking about it now. We've been swallowing

> crushed raw garlic at bedtime and it seems to be helping both of us.

> I'm also going to start us on P73 Oregano oil, which should help

> many different things.

, there is a lot of evidence that probiotics are good for

preventing and fending off h pylori infections. I'd be careful about

taking a lot of oregano oil, as it may be fairly high in

polyunsaturated fat.

A quick google search turned up these articles about probiotics and

heliobacter pylori:

Helicobacter pylori and Probiotics

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/137/3/812S

Probiotics and Helicobacter pylori

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14507588

Can the amount of Helicobacter pylori in the stomach be kept low

through probiotic intake?

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/81/4/939

Probiotics and Heliobacter Pylori Infections

http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/probhelpylin.html

Active Yogurt Suppresses Colonized Heliobacter Pylori

http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/acyogsupcolh.html

Probiotics in human infections

http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/50/5/625

I find that unsweetened homemade kefir is very soothing to my stomach

any time I have any stomach irritation.

[Guest guest]

Interestingly, I just had a stool test for parasites and on it was also a test

for H pylori. To my surprise, I tested positive for H. Pylori, but not

parasites. I say this because I have no symptoms of H. Pylori, inotherwords, no

ulcers or stomach pain. Some constiipation, but that can be many other things.

Anyway, I thought that the only way of getting rid of the H. pylori was with

antibiotics. Does anyone know if this is true? Otherwise, it won't go away

completely. I was also told that it is very easy to get, as it is carried on

many foods. So, why do some people get it and others don't? Why don't I have

ulcers? If I do take antibiotics, is there anything natural I can take to

prevent it from attaching to my gut again? Do probiotics help with that??

Thanks,

jafa

<oz4caster@...> wrote:

--- Aramburu <mattandgina@...> wrote:

> I think I'm done panicking about it now. We've been swallowing

> crushed raw garlic at bedtime and it seems to be helping both of us.

> I'm also going to start us on P73 Oregano oil, which should help

> many different things.

, there is a lot of evidence that probiotics are good for

preventing and fending off h pylori infections. I'd be careful about

taking a lot of oregano oil, as it may be fairly high in

polyunsaturated fat.

A quick google search turned up these articles about probiotics and

heliobacter pylori:

Helicobacter pylori and Probiotics

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/137/3/812S

Probiotics and Helicobacter pylori

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14507588

Can the amount of Helicobacter pylori in the stomach be kept low

through probiotic intake?

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/81/4/939

Probiotics and Heliobacter Pylori Infections

http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/probhelpylin.html

Active Yogurt Suppresses Colonized Heliobacter Pylori

http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/acyogsupcolh.html

Probiotics in human infections

http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/50/5/625

I find that unsweetened homemade kefir is very soothing to my stomach

any time I have any stomach irritation.

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[Guest guest]

I tested postive for H-pylori a while back and took the antibiotics.

Never heard of the link with rosacea - but did read about links to

hypothyroidism, anemia, adrenal fatigue, etc. Doesn't surprise me at all.

>

> Hey all,

>

> I'm wondering what you all know about H. pylori and ways to get rid of

> it. My husband has symptoms of it (recurring ulcer) that have mostly

> gone away since eating NT, but seem to creep back up again when he's

> stressed out. I'm not 100% sure that he has it -- he's never been

> tested, but it's very likely.

>

> I'm also curious about the supposed link between H. pylori and cea.

[Guest guest]

>

> Did you treat h. pylori with ole? if so was elimination confirmed

> with test?

The only bacteria that I *know* the OLE addressed is strep. I am not

aware of the exact types of other bacteria I may have addressed with

the OLE.

Dana