Re: Regulators rue raw milk vogue

[Guest guest]

This is comedy, literally. I swear we live in a police state except

our freedom is controlled through lawyers and lawsuits in place of the

police. I recently was passing through Orlando and stayed at a friend

of mine's who works as a live-in-nanny for a pediatric trauma surgeon.

When he saw the raw milk I was keeping in the fridge he pulled my

friend aside and viciously warned her not to feed any of it to his

over-vaccinated, future-braces-wearing, mouth-breathing, sugar

addicted, dermatological problem having four children. Besides doing

trauma surgery, which is really tremendous life-saving work, he also

does a lot of surgery for birth defect correction. It's just amazing

to me when I think of how he could be educating these moms in

prevention. If he could only get past the programming propagated by

this type of bad press for raw milk, he could be such a positive

force. My friend tries to get me to talk to him but it would be like

urinating in the wind. Medical doctors are the worst scientists.

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> http://tinyurl.com/4xk9lq

> Regulators rue raw milk vogue

> Despite claims of healthfulness, disease risks abound

>

> By J. Hedges

> April 27, 2008

>

> WASHINGTON - Mark McAfee just might be the most closely watched

> farmer in America. His Organic Pastures dairy farm in Fresno, Calif.,

> is the subject of a federal grand jury investigation and near-

> constant scrutiny by the Food and Drug Administration and California

> health officials. Lawyers have slapped him with lawsuits seeking

> damages for food-borne illnesses...

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- crayfishfeed <crayfishfeed@...> wrote:

My friend tries to get me to talk to him but

> it would be like

> urinating in the wind.

Crayfish, judging from the above line, you must be

listening to Bob Dylan in the bathroom.

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Things fall apart; the center cannot hold;

Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere

The ceremony of innocence is drowned;

The best lack all conviction, while the worst

Are full of passionate intensity.

-WB Yeats

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[Guest guest]

If he educated the moms in prevention, he would be out of a job.

> >

> > http://tinyurl.com/4xk9lq

> > Regulators rue raw milk vogue

> > Despite claims of healthfulness, disease risks abound

> >

> > By J. Hedges

> > April 27, 2008

> >

> > WASHINGTON - Mark McAfee just might be the most closely watched

> > farmer in America. His Organic Pastures dairy farm in Fresno, Calif.,

> > is the subject of a federal grand jury investigation and near-

> > constant scrutiny by the Food and Drug Administration and California

> > health officials. Lawyers have slapped him with lawsuits seeking

> > damages for food-borne illnesses...

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

--- carolyn_graff <zgraff@...> wrote:

> If he educated the moms in prevention, he would be

> out of a job.

That's not true. There are orthomolecular doctors and

they do just fine. His focus would swtich to

prevention but he wouldn't be out of a job.

I think it is quite unfair for people to accuse M.D.s

of wanting to keep people sick. That MAY be true in

some instances, but I think it is simplistic. What I

think is true is that they are so immersed in a

certain dogma that it's hard for them to see beyond

it. I doubt that there is ONE person on this list

who, at some time in their life, has not been so in

love with a theory that they could not consider it

objectively. Now, usually when that happens one is in

a community that reenforces our beliefs. For Doctors

there community is quite large and the theories they

hold be true are almost universally accepted. That's

a hard dogma to break free of.

I think one needs to keep the above in mind when

dealing with doctors. After all, they're humans, too.

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[Guest guest]

They assert that there has been a rise in food poisonings due to raw

milk. Funny that the numbers and methodology aren't readily available.

[Guest guest]

I think this is a good point which is why it's so hard to change

doctors' minds about things. They are human and they like to think of

themselves as having good intentions, but they definitely become way

too attached to what they learn in med school. Their resistance also

has to do with the patients' chronically putting them up on a

pedestal... that behavior keeps them where they are at.

I think that doctor I mentioned would be far from out of a job if

educated his patients in prevention. I know from educating people as a

part of my job, that changes take a lot of time. I am still making

changes and I set out to start eating healthy in 2002. Everything is a

process. Also, there are so many toxins in the environment that there

are always going to be birth defects for at least the next few hundred

years even if we started cleaning up everything tomorrow. And no one

knows for sure why a person gets sick and another one doesn't b/c it's

definitely not just about nutrition. I think this is where the harder

to measure spiritual and mental have huge parts that even holistic

doctors barely address.

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> > If he educated the moms in prevention, he would be

> > out of a job.

>

> That's not true. There are orthomolecular doctors and

> they do just fine. His focus would swtich to

> prevention but he wouldn't be out of a job.

>

> I think it is quite unfair for people to accuse M.D.s

> of wanting to keep people sick. That MAY be true in

> some instances, but I think it is simplistic. What I

> think is true is that they are so immersed in a

> certain dogma that it's hard for them to see beyond

> it. I doubt that there is ONE person on this list

> who, at some time in their life, has not been so in

> love with a theory that they could not consider it

> objectively. Now, usually when that happens one is in

> a community that reenforces our beliefs. For Doctors

> there community is quite large and the theories they

> hold be true are almost universally accepted. That's

> a hard dogma to break free of.

>

> I think one needs to keep the above in mind when

> dealing with doctors. After all, they're humans, too.

>

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