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>Carolyn We have been making kefir for about 2 years and on average the

size of our grains are about 2 to 3 tablespoons in about 1 to 1 1/2

pints of raw milk it sits on our countertop for about 24 hours then

remove the grains then into fridge for 24 hours before drinking. We

stop making it in Dec. put the grains in freezer got them out last

week restarted the process again works fine I was a little concerned it

appeared to have very minor freezer burns but all seems normal. Just

amazing stuff awed by it. Don

> My local raw dairy farmer uses 1 kefir grain per half gallon. I

don't

> know how that works because I always thought that you needed a

> Tablespoon of grains per cup of milk.

>

> what do you think? is he really making kefir? he says he puts one

> grain in a half gallon jar of warm milk (right from the cow) for 12

> hours at 90 degrees in his culturing room. then he removes the grain

> and cultures it for another 12 hours at 90 degrees. it is nice and

> thick and tastes great.

>

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>Carolyn We have been making kefir for about 2 years and on average the

size of our grains are about 2 to 3 tablespoons in about 1 to 1 1/2

pints of raw milk it sits on our countertop for about 24 hours then

remove the grains then into fridge for 24 hours before drinking. We

stop making it in Dec. put the grains in freezer got them out last

week restarted the process again works fine I was a little concerned it

appeared to have very minor freezer burns but all seems normal. Just

amazing stuff awed by it. Don

> My local raw dairy farmer uses 1 kefir grain per half gallon. I

don't

> know how that works because I always thought that you needed a

> Tablespoon of grains per cup of milk.

>

> what do you think? is he really making kefir? he says he puts one

> grain in a half gallon jar of warm milk (right from the cow) for 12

> hours at 90 degrees in his culturing room. then he removes the grain

> and cultures it for another 12 hours at 90 degrees. it is nice and

> thick and tastes great.

>

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There is no way he is talking about one tiny kefir grain. It could be

that he is talking about one very large mass of kefir grain. Sometimes

the grains will get huge and monster-like. Ha! That must be what

he is referring to. They get all misshapen and large, kind of like a

big, flappy weird thing, the size of a flat softball or baseball (who

knows--maybe they can get even bigger) and you can use just

one of them to culture a lot of milk. But there is no way it is just

one tiny grain for a half gallon of milk.

That would be like putting one dot of yogurt culture into a half

gallon of milk and expecting it to turn into yogurt. It just doesn't

work that way. It has to be proportional.

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>

> My local raw dairy farmer uses 1 kefir grain per half gallon. I don't

> know how that works because I always thought that you needed a

> Tablespoon of grains per cup of milk.

>

> what do you think? is he really making kefir? he says he puts one

> grain in a half gallon jar of warm milk (right from the cow) for 12

> hours at 90 degrees in his culturing room. then he removes the grain

> and cultures it for another 12 hours at 90 degrees. it is nice and

> thick and tastes great.

>

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There is no way he is talking about one tiny kefir grain. It could be

that he is talking about one very large mass of kefir grain. Sometimes

the grains will get huge and monster-like. Ha! That must be what

he is referring to. They get all misshapen and large, kind of like a

big, flappy weird thing, the size of a flat softball or baseball (who

knows--maybe they can get even bigger) and you can use just

one of them to culture a lot of milk. But there is no way it is just

one tiny grain for a half gallon of milk.

That would be like putting one dot of yogurt culture into a half

gallon of milk and expecting it to turn into yogurt. It just doesn't

work that way. It has to be proportional.

D.

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>

> My local raw dairy farmer uses 1 kefir grain per half gallon. I don't

> know how that works because I always thought that you needed a

> Tablespoon of grains per cup of milk.

>

> what do you think? is he really making kefir? he says he puts one

> grain in a half gallon jar of warm milk (right from the cow) for 12

> hours at 90 degrees in his culturing room. then he removes the grain

> and cultures it for another 12 hours at 90 degrees. it is nice and

> thick and tastes great.

>

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There is no way he is talking about one tiny kefir grain. It could be

that he is talking about one very large mass of kefir grain. Sometimes

the grains will get huge and monster-like. Ha! That must be what

he is referring to. They get all misshapen and large, kind of like a

big, flappy weird thing, the size of a flat softball or baseball (who

knows--maybe they can get even bigger) and you can use just

one of them to culture a lot of milk. But there is no way it is just

one tiny grain for a half gallon of milk.

That would be like putting one dot of yogurt culture into a half

gallon of milk and expecting it to turn into yogurt. It just doesn't

work that way. It has to be proportional.

D.

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>

> My local raw dairy farmer uses 1 kefir grain per half gallon. I don't

> know how that works because I always thought that you needed a

> Tablespoon of grains per cup of milk.

>

> what do you think? is he really making kefir? he says he puts one

> grain in a half gallon jar of warm milk (right from the cow) for 12

> hours at 90 degrees in his culturing room. then he removes the grain

> and cultures it for another 12 hours at 90 degrees. it is nice and

> thick and tastes great.

>

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he is talking about one tiny kefir grain. I asked him about the size of it and

he showed me

with his thumb and first finger. it is only about 1/4 inch across! so maybe he

is really

making clabbered milk. what do you think? it looks and tastes like the kefir he

used to

make with the kefir powder from Wilderness Family Naturals. we suggested he

switch to

using kefir grains. It is very chunky.

> >

> > My local raw dairy farmer uses 1 kefir grain per half gallon. I don't

> > know how that works because I always thought that you needed a

> > Tablespoon of grains per cup of milk.

> >

> > what do you think? is he really making kefir? he says he puts one

> > grain in a half gallon jar of warm milk (right from the cow) for 12

> > hours at 90 degrees in his culturing room. then he removes the grain

> > and cultures it for another 12 hours at 90 degrees. it is nice and

> > thick and tastes great.

> >

>

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he is talking about one tiny kefir grain. I asked him about the size of it and

he showed me

with his thumb and first finger. it is only about 1/4 inch across! so maybe he

is really

making clabbered milk. what do you think? it looks and tastes like the kefir he

used to

make with the kefir powder from Wilderness Family Naturals. we suggested he

switch to

using kefir grains. It is very chunky.

> >

> > My local raw dairy farmer uses 1 kefir grain per half gallon. I don't

> > know how that works because I always thought that you needed a

> > Tablespoon of grains per cup of milk.

> >

> > what do you think? is he really making kefir? he says he puts one

> > grain in a half gallon jar of warm milk (right from the cow) for 12

> > hours at 90 degrees in his culturing room. then he removes the grain

> > and cultures it for another 12 hours at 90 degrees. it is nice and

> > thick and tastes great.

> >

>

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he is talking about one tiny kefir grain. I asked him about the size of it and

he showed me

with his thumb and first finger. it is only about 1/4 inch across! so maybe he

is really

making clabbered milk. what do you think? it looks and tastes like the kefir he

used to

make with the kefir powder from Wilderness Family Naturals. we suggested he

switch to

using kefir grains. It is very chunky.

> >

> > My local raw dairy farmer uses 1 kefir grain per half gallon. I don't

> > know how that works because I always thought that you needed a

> > Tablespoon of grains per cup of milk.

> >

> > what do you think? is he really making kefir? he says he puts one

> > grain in a half gallon jar of warm milk (right from the cow) for 12

> > hours at 90 degrees in his culturing room. then he removes the grain

> > and cultures it for another 12 hours at 90 degrees. it is nice and

> > thick and tastes great.

> >

>

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>>>>> My local raw dairy farmer uses 1 kefir grain per half gallon of

>>>>> raw milk. I don't know how that works because I always thought

>>>>> that you needed about a Tablespoon of grains per cup of milk.

>>>>> the grain is only about 1/4 inch across in size.

>>>>>

>>>>> what do you think? is he really making kefir? or clabber? he

>>>>> says he puts one grain in a jar of warm milk (right from the

>>>>> cow) for 12 hours at 90 degrees in his culturing room. then he

>>>>> removes the grain and cultures it for another 12 hours at 90

>>>>> degrees. it is chunky, nice and thick and tastes great.

It looks and tastes about the same as when he was using the powdered

kefir to make

it. He was getting the powder from Wilderness Family Naturals until

we suggested to him

that he get and use kefir grains.

>>>>

>>>

>>

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