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Patti

Being non-weight bearing, the diet and seizure drugs all contribute

to bone density problems. Don't know anything about the Prilosec effect

on calcium absorption, but I would recommend a referral to a good pediatric

nephrologist, they deal with the bone density issues.

Patti wrote:

OK,

now I'm really even more frustrated...... the discussion about Tums and

the fact that the calcium can't be absorbed in an antacid base has got

me wondering. Katera has just been put on a trial of Prilosec to see if

her irritability and obvious discomfort is due to reflux (she can't communicate

well enough to tell us). The docs decided that doing a trial of the drug

for a month would be better than putting her through the diagnostic procedures.

Well, now my other concern is that, after a recent x-ray due to an ankle

injury, we've been told that Katera has "diminished bone density". It is

unlikely to be because of the diet since she's only been on it one year

and not ever at a very high ratio.....more likely to be due to her lack

of mobility and weight bearing (compared to other kids her age). The pediatrician

is still looking into where we stand with this but, in the meantime, I'm

upset to think that maybe the Prilosec (it's a capsule with time-release

beads.... so it continues to work all day) could interfere with her calcium

absorbtion. We've had her on a good supplement the entire time she's been

keto but I really don't want to compromise the bone situation. Does anyone

know? I mean, I know it is an antacid of sorts. <sigh> Guess I'd better

put in another call to the doc and dietician. Patti

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Patti,

Rohan's back X-rays (after a backache for over a month)

has shown a loss of bone density. He's been on v.low ratios

on the diet too and for about 1 yr and 8 months. He doesn't

do much physical activity now, but that can't be the reason

with him. It has to be to do with the previous AEds and the

KGD. We are waiting to see a metabolic dr. now. So far

they haven't done the Dexa scan that others mentioned or any

other tests. The system here in the UK is sooo slow at times!

Saro

Patti wrote:

OK,

now I'm really even more frustrated...... the discussion about Tums and

the fact that the calcium can't be absorbed in an antacid base has got

me wondering. Katera has just been put on a trial of Prilosec to see if

her irritability and obvious discomfort is due to reflux (she can't communicate

well enough to tell us). The docs decided that doing a trial of the drug

for a month would be better than putting her through the diagnostic procedures.

Well, now my other concern is that, after a recent x-ray due to an ankle

injury, we've been told that Katera has "diminished bone density". It is

unlikely to be because of the diet since she's only been on it one year

and not ever at a very high ratio.....more likely to be due to her lack

of mobility and weight bearing (compared to other kids her age). The pediatrician

is still looking into where we stand with this but, in the meantime, I'm

upset to think that maybe the Prilosec (it's a capsule with time-release

beads.... so it continues to work all day) could interfere with her calcium

absorbtion. We've had her on a good supplement the entire time she's been

keto but I really don't want to compromise the bone situation. Does anyone

know? I mean, I know it is an antacid of sorts. <sigh> Guess I'd better

put in another call to the doc and dietician. Patti

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sanaljay wrote:

> Patti,

> Rohan's back X-rays (after a backache for over a month)

> has shown a loss of bone density. He's been on v.low ratios

> on the diet too and for about 1 yr and 8 months. He doesn't

> do much physical activity now, but that can't be the reason

> with him. It has to be to do with the previous AEds and the

> KGD. We are waiting to see a metabolic dr. now. So far

> they haven't done the Dexa scan that others mentioned or any

> other tests. The system here in the UK is sooo slow at times!

> Saro

Saro

Read this and felt sorry he has the problem, relieved you found the

answer and a little suprised that is what it was, even though I

suggested it :)

Scary isn't it?

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,

Thanks for your post and the previous ones. It is

certainly scary. Infact I'm wondering whether it's

the only problem. The sooner we get some more

tests done, the better it'll be.

Saro

"m.coole" wrote:

sanaljay wrote:

> Patti,

> Rohan's back X-rays (after a backache for over a month)

> has shown a loss of bone density. He's been on v.low ratios

> on the diet too and for about 1 yr and 8 months. He doesn't

> do much physical activity now, but that can't be the reason

> with him. It has to be to do with the previous AEds and the

> KGD. We are waiting to see a metabolic dr. now. So far

> they haven't done the Dexa scan that others mentioned or any

> other tests. The system here in the UK is sooo slow at times!

> Saro

Saro

Read this and felt sorry he has the problem, relieved you found

the

answer and a little suprised that is what it was, even though

I

suggested it :)

Scary isn't it?

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just a last resort!"

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Hi Saro

long time no talk. Just thought I would butt in here a bit. We have

been having a very hard time lately with Mike. He has developed a couple

of new seizure types and a whole myriad of other problems. We are still

med free but really struggling however that is another story for another

time. I just wanted to let you know that Mike started having severe bone

pain in the mid summer. Usually in his legs but back also. We have

been referred to an endocrinologist who is investigating Mike for

hypoparathyroidism and for Vit D resistant ricketts. She thinks these may

be the results of Mike being on the diet and the using cream ( double cream)

which had no vit d added. Here most cream and milk is fortified with Vit

D so the body can absorb the calcium . I always though that so long as

you gave sufficient Cal/mag that the body should be able to get the Ca

but it seems Vit D is needed. Our cream had none so for a long time

Mike got some Vit D in his multi but probably not enough. I know

you use d cream so you may want to look at Rohan's other sources of

Vit D to see if they are adequate.

Sorry to here Rohan is still having back problems. I think about you

guys alot. Rohan and Mike still seem to have alot in common.

Talk soon

Faye

sanaljay wrote:

Patti,

Rohan's back X-rays (after a backache for over a month)

has shown a loss of bone density. He's been on v.low ratios

on the diet too and for about 1 yr and 8 months. He doesn't

do much physical activity now, but that can't be the reason

with him. It has to be to do with the previous AEds and the

KGD. We are waiting to see a metabolic dr. now. So far

they haven't done the Dexa scan that others mentioned or any

other tests. The system here in the UK is sooo slow at times!

Saro

Patti wrote:

OK,

now I'm really even more frustrated...... the discussion about Tums and

the fact that the calcium can't be absorbed in an antacid base has got

me wondering. Katera has just been put on a trial of Prilosec to see if

her irritability and obvious discomfort is due to reflux (she can't communicate

well enough to tell us). The docs decided that doing a trial of the drug

for a month would be better than putting her through the diagnostic procedures.

Well, now my other concern is that, after a recent x-ray due to an ankle

injury, we've been told that Katera has "diminished bone density". It is

unlikely to be because of the diet since she's only been on it one year

and not ever at a very high ratio.....more likely to be due to her lack

of mobility and weight bearing (compared to other kids her age). The pediatrician

is still looking into where we stand with this but, in the meantime, I'm

upset to think that maybe the Prilosec (it's a capsule with time-release

beads.... so it continues to work all day) could interfere with her calcium

absorbtion. We've had her on a good supplement the entire time she's been

keto but I really don't want to compromise the bone situation. Does anyone

know? I mean, I know it is an antacid of sorts. <sigh> Guess I'd better

put in another call to the doc and dietician. Patti

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Faye

Sorry to hear Mike is having such problems. Did they do a bone densoromitry?

kevin cooper wrote:

Hi Saro

long time no talk. Just thought I would butt in here a bit. We have

been having a very hard time lately with Mike. He has developed a couple

of new seizure types and a whole myriad of other problems. We are still

med free but really struggling however that is another story for another

time. I just wanted to let you know that Mike started having severe bone

pain in the mid summer. Usually in his legs but back also. We have

been referred to an endocrinologist who is investigating Mike for

hypoparathyroidism and for Vit D resistant ricketts. She thinks these may

be the results of Mike being on the diet and the using cream ( double cream)

which had no vit d added. Here most cream and milk is fortified with Vit

D so the body can absorb the calcium . I always though that so long as

you gave sufficient Cal/mag that the body should be able to get the Ca

but it seems Vit D is needed. Our cream had none so for a long time

Mike got some Vit D in his multi but probably not enough. I know

you use d cream so you may want to look at Rohan's other sources of

Vit D to see if they are adequate.

Sorry to here Rohan is still having back problems. I think about you

guys alot. Rohan and Mike still seem to have alot in common.

Talk soon

Faye

sanaljay wrote:

Patti,

Rohan's back X-rays (after a backache for over a month)

has shown a loss of bone density. He's been on v.low ratios

on the diet too and for about 1 yr and 8 months. He doesn't

do much physical activity now, but that can't be the reason

with him. It has to be to do with the previous AEds and the

KGD. We are waiting to see a metabolic dr. now. So far

they haven't done the Dexa scan that others mentioned or any

other tests. The system here in the UK is sooo slow at times!

Saro

Patti wrote:

OK,

now I'm really even more frustrated...... the discussion about Tums and

the fact that the calcium can't be absorbed in an antacid base has got

me wondering. Katera has just been put on a trial of Prilosec to see if

her irritability and obvious discomfort is due to reflux (she can't communicate

well enough to tell us). The docs decided that doing a trial of the drug

for a month would be better than putting her through the diagnostic procedures.

Well, now my other concern is that, after a recent x-ray due to an ankle

injury, we've been told that Katera has "diminished bone density". It is

unlikely to be because of the diet since she's only been on it one year

and not ever at a very high ratio.....more likely to be due to her lack

of mobility and weight bearing (compared to other kids her age). The pediatrician

is still looking into where we stand with this but, in the meantime, I'm

upset to think that maybe the Prilosec (it's a capsule with time-release

beads.... so it continues to work all day) could interfere with her calcium

absorbtion. We've had her on a good supplement the entire time she's been

keto but I really don't want to compromise the bone situation. Does anyone

know? I mean, I know it is an antacid of sorts. <sigh> Guess I'd better

put in another call to the doc and dietician. Patti

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just a last resort!"

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