Re: Cancer and treating it with TF diet

[Guest guest]

Maybe she would like the stories and recommendations in Maker's

Diet. There are lady cancer survivors in there. It's WAP but also

kosher (!?) because of the author's religious beliefs. And you could

give her hope anyway. And the author spends some time on *why* the

standard treatments like chemo are so destructive

Connie

>

> My grandmother has breast cancer, This is her second time with it

and

> she has had cervical cancer as well. THe last bout of it was almost

12

> years ago. Long story short she is out of 11 siblings and ALL her

> siblings have gotten cancer or died from cancer. Her parents both

died

> from cancer as well. ANd it goes back even further.

>

> Anyway she just had a masectomy and now they want to do Chemo. She

> went to her first chemo treatment and is SOOOO incredibly sick from

it

> she decided she is DONE and not going to finish the Chemo. Everyone

is

> mad at her but me as I understand I wouldn't do it either I don't

think.

> She smokes however is fairly health conscious other then that. I

know

> that is a biggie but anyway she tries to eat organic food etc.

>

> Is there a way I can help her through diet? I am sending her to my

> naturpath and my chiropractor (who is vegan) ( but supportive of

my

> diet.

>

> I know I hear about alot of people being cured from cancer being on

> the hallelujah diet (vegan) but want to show her the healthy way of

> traditional eating and don't even want her to go that route. But I

> haven't heard of anyone being cured of cancer eating the wap way

> personally.

>

> ON another note my grandfather (both are only 70) just had a triple

> bypass and he does NOT believe me about good fats etc.

>

> Where do I go? She is finally willing to listen to me and ordered

some

> cod liver oil to start. And eating whole fat yogurt and butter.

> She doesn't seem willing to try Kombucha however. Kefir she has but

> its s kefir so past. and homo.

>

> She won't even sprout food she is so scared of germs and getting

sick.

>

> But theres more!! There has to be a way she can heal this naturally

> isn't there?'

> And for my grandpa as well.

> HE is unfortunately back to his high sugar , high condament

(ketchup,

> sweet and sour sauce etc diet), skim milk diet ( and he just had

his

> bypass three weeks ago.

>

> Oh my grandma has bad diverticulitis as well and so she can't have

> anything wtih seeds even blueberries.

>

> Thanks bunches I would be forever greatful for help here. She even

> asked me for it since she is watching our families health improve.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't believe a TF diet is going to fix something like that. Dis-

ease is about blockages (remember she has diverticulitis?--both the

cancer and the diverticulitis come from the same thing. The TF diet

does not do enough to address this. One thing I'm not sure of tf ever

going into enough or at all is that all cultures I know of had their

clensing rituals, especially in the spring. She is way overdue. And

although you can incorperate some of your wisdom into these vegan diet

plans (vitamin D, for instance, is amazing against cancer), I beleive

there are reasons why vegan diets are usually recommended and its good

to pay attention to those reasons. One, I think, is that meat is more

toxic than veggies in a sluggish bowel, so until you get that moving,

it can do harm. Others are the hormones and toxins found in meat

these days, which can be avoided but at high cost. I personally

wouldn't worry so much about animal-product related deficiencies as I

would cleansing and easily-assimilated nutrition at this point. And

that doesn't rule out broth and butter and raw kefir, though if she's

too squeemish, don't worry about it; worry's not good for her either.

I also recommend adjuncting this with comic movies, animals and

children, walks in the park, and books like " You Can't Afford The

Luxury of a Negative Thought. " See what's at the library. Netflix is

$10 for unlimited movies and no late fees.

I absolutely recommend Dr. Schultz.

www.herbdoc.com

I have worked for retreat-healers who do similar work and I have

taught myself about famous cancer cures and don't let Dr. Shultz showy

style put you off; his herbs and methods are what those healers and

doctors do and better. His personal style is good motivation, too. I

like his CD. Its best if you can also find talented people in your

area who can assist you.

You can order his catolog which has a lot more information and to me

is a little less confusing than bouning around the web-site, or you

can go to the web-site, and there are more materials available on-

line.

Bless you,

Antares

(You can always e-mail me directly, too.)

[Guest guest]

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> Is there a way I can help her through diet? I am sending her to my

> naturpath and my chiropractor (who is vegan) ( but supportive of my

> diet.

Given the overall situation, I'm not sure how much you can do, but one

thing you might point out is that tumors generally (or always?) lose

their ability to metabolize fat and can only feed on sugar. In light

of this little-reported fact, I think it behooves any cancer patient

to immediately embark on a very low-carb diet.

There's also a school of thought that holds that cancer develops in

the face of pancreatin insufficiency. I don't know whether that's

proven to be true, but it would cost little for your grandmother to

take a good deal of pancreatin just for in case it helps.

-

[Guest guest]

On Apr 5, 2008, at 5:49 PM, Antares wrote:

> Dis-

> ease is about blockages (remember she has diverticulitis?--both the

> cancer and the diverticulitis come from the same thing.

Diverticulitis isn't a " blockage " . It's an infection or inflammation

of one or more weakened spots in the intestinal lining which bulge

outwards, effectively forming little pockets or pouches. Cancer is not

a " blockage " either, and while it may well be true in the broadest

possible sense that both diseases spring from the same root conditions

of malnutrition, toxins, and resulting ill health, that essentially

philosophical interpretation of the situation doesn't yield anything

resembling a specific treatment plan for either condition.

-

[Guest guest]

I keep thinking of the vitamin B-17 thing - that wild animals

rarely/never get cancer but zoo animals do and the difference is that

wild animals preferentially eat foods containing vitamin B-17. The

drug form of it is called laetrile and you can actually buy it online

(but nobody can prescribe it!) The theory is that some forms of

cancer are a result of the same process as the body uses to form a

placenta but is usually held in check. To find out if that cancer

that she has would respond, she could possibly take a home pregnancy

test, because according to what I've read some kinds of cancer make

false positives on home pregnancy tests, and those kinds would

respond very well to laetrile therapy. These cancers can be anywhere

in the body, not just the female reproductive organs.

But all this is highly controversial with one side saying laetrile is

toxic, and the other side claiming a the pharmaceutical industry is

suppressing the cure until they can find a patentable form.

Natural vitamin B 17 is found in watercress, many kinds of sprouts,

sorghum, apple pips, apricot kernels, foreign marzipan (but domestic

marzipan is required to be treated so the B 17 is removed), and some

other things. There's a book " The Little Cyanide Cookbook " that has

many recipes with natural forms of vitamin B 17.

--- In , Idol <Idol@...>

wrote:

>

> -

>

> > Is there a way I can help her through diet? I am sending her to my

> > naturpath and my chiropractor (who is vegan) ( but supportive

of my

> > diet.

>

> Given the overall situation, I'm not sure how much you can do, but

one

> thing you might point out is that tumors generally (or always?)

lose

> their ability to metabolize fat and can only feed on sugar. In

light

> of this little-reported fact, I think it behooves any cancer

patient

> to immediately embark on a very low-carb diet.

>

> There's also a school of thought that holds that cancer develops

in

> the face of pancreatin insufficiency. I don't know whether that's

> proven to be true, but it would cost little for your grandmother

to

> take a good deal of pancreatin just for in case it helps.

>

> -

>

>

[Guest guest]

and ,

> Given the overall situation, I'm not sure how much you can do, but one

> thing you might point out is that tumors generally (or always?) lose

> their ability to metabolize fat and can only feed on sugar. In light

> of this little-reported fact, I think it behooves any cancer patient

> to immediately embark on a very low-carb diet.

Not only that, but saturated fats, particularly palmitate, are highly

toxic to cancer cells. Actually palmitate is toxic to all cells when

it builds up. But because cancer cells lose the ability to metabolize

fats, palmitate only builds up in cancer cells. So building a diet

based primarily on saturated fat would probably be helpful.

Chris

[Guest guest]

On 4/6/08, haecklers <haecklers@...> wrote:

> But all this is highly controversial with one side saying laetrile is

> toxic, and the other side claiming a the pharmaceutical industry is

> suppressing the cure until they can find a patentable form.

Obviously the latter group is wrong, since laetrile is patented.

> Natural vitamin B 17 is found in watercress, many kinds of sprouts,

> sorghum, apple pips, apricot kernels, foreign marzipan (but domestic

> marzipan is required to be treated so the B 17 is removed), and some

> other things. There's a book " The Little Cyanide Cookbook " that has

> many recipes with natural forms of vitamin B 17.

If you use the pages to roll cigarettes, you can get even more cyanide.

Chris

[Guest guest]

> > Natural vitamin B 17 is found in watercress, many kinds of sprouts,

> > sorghum, apple pips, apricot kernels, foreign marzipan (but domestic

> > marzipan is required to be treated so the B 17 is removed), and some

> > other things. There's a book " The Little Cyanide Cookbook " that has

> > many recipes with natural forms of vitamin B 17.

>

> If you use the pages to roll cigarettes, you can get even more cyanide.

And then if you light your house on fire with that cigarette and inhale

deeply you can get even more cyanide.

Suze

[Guest guest]

Look into Essaic tea, herbs that work, read her story, Cant hurt,,, You know

if I were dying from cancer,,, Chemo would not be an option... I would go the

Esiaic method, or I would rather die...

luvmyblessings <blessedby6children@...> wrote: My grandmother has

breast cancer, This is her second time with it and

she has had cervical cancer as well. THe last bout of it was almost 12

years ago. Long story short she is out of 11 siblings and ALL her

siblings have gotten cancer or died from cancer. Her parents both died

from cancer as well. ANd it goes back even further.

Anyway she just had a masectomy and now they want to do Chemo. She

went to her first chemo treatment and is SOOOO incredibly sick from it

she decided she is DONE and not going to finish the Chemo. Everyone is

mad at her but me as I understand I wouldn't do it either I don't think.

She smokes however is fairly health conscious other then that. I know

that is a biggie but anyway she tries to eat organic food etc.

Is there a way I can help her through diet? I am sending her to my

naturpath and my chiropractor (who is vegan) ( but supportive of my

diet.

I know I hear about alot of people being cured from cancer being on

the hallelujah diet (vegan) but want to show her the healthy way of

traditional eating and don't even want her to go that route. But I

haven't heard of anyone being cured of cancer eating the wap way

personally.

ON another note my grandfather (both are only 70) just had a triple

bypass and he does NOT believe me about good fats etc.

Where do I go? She is finally willing to listen to me and ordered some

cod liver oil to start. And eating whole fat yogurt and butter.

She doesn't seem willing to try Kombucha however. Kefir she has but

its s kefir so past. and homo.

She won't even sprout food she is so scared of germs and getting sick.

But theres more!! There has to be a way she can heal this naturally

isn't there?'

And for my grandpa as well.

HE is unfortunately back to his high sugar , high condament (ketchup,

sweet and sour sauce etc diet), skim milk diet ( and he just had his

bypass three weeks ago.

Oh my grandma has bad diverticulitis as well and so she can't have

anything wtih seeds even blueberries.

Thanks bunches I would be forever greatful for help here. She even

asked me for it since she is watching our families health improve.

~~PEACE~~

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[Guest guest]

> Diverticulitis isn't a " blockage " . It's an infection or

inflammation of one or more weakened spots in the intestinal lining

which bulge outwards, effectively forming little pockets or pouches.

Cancer is not blockage " either, and while it may well be true in the

broadest possible sense that both diseases spring from the same root

conditions of malnutrition, toxins, and resulting ill health, that

essentially philosophical interpretation of the situation doesn't

yield anything resembling a specific treatment plan for either

condition.

>

> -

Wow, no wonder so many are diseased! -- " It's not blockage, its a

___ " (insert whatever " explanation " that doesn't itself explain.)--

I couldn't go into the full detail that would validate my belief, but

how do you suppose a spot of intestine got weakened?

I had no intention of proposing a specific treatment plan over the

internet and third-party, only to shed some light and present a

theory for further investigation.

I find it really offensive that you discredited me by refuting

something I didn't say. I didn't say that diverticulitis is a

blockage, I said (and it is my belief) that it stems from blockages.

My theory is sound, and a specific treatment plan wasn't what was

asked for, so why do you seem to want to stop the recipient from

looking into it?

I would appreciate it if you would be more respectfull in the future.

--Antares