Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hi, If you please, what kind of foot practitioner was this person? And what kind of color consistency is being determined & where? Curious, Jim " KerryAnn at CookingTF.com " <kerryann@...> wrote: I saw a D-Tox foot spa today and was curious if anyone knows anything about this type of detoxing. A dear friend of mine did this with an alternative practitioner and had all sorts of gross stuff come out, and the practitioner was able to tell her based off of the colors and consistencies what it was that was coming out. Anyone else have any information, pro or con, on if this actually works and how to tell what is in the water? I was particularly curious, since it mentions removing toxins from lymph, but lymph always flows towards the heart, so I wasn't sure what to think. KerryAnn http://www.cookingtf.com/mailerau.html - NEW Australian TF Menu Mailer Well done is better than well said..., Jim Igo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 >If you please, what kind of foot practitioner was this person? And what >kind of color consistency is being determined & where? She did colonics and quite a few other treatments, she wasn't just limited to this treatment. I've contacted my friend who had it done to get the specifics and will post again when she replies. The color and consistency is what comes out in the water. This is the foot spa I'm referring to- the video shows what I'm talking about. D-Tox Foot Spa <http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=M9iJO/Zpuaw & offerid=127265.100 04257 & type=3 & subid=0> KerryAnn http://www.cookingtf.com/mailerau.html - NEW Australian TF Menu Mailer http://www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - TF forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hi, Thanks so much for the link, I have always found the negative ion influences fascinating. Just, Jim " KerryAnn at CookingTF.com " <kerryann@...> wrote: >If you please, what kind of foot practitioner was this person? And what >kind of color consistency is being determined & where? She did colonics and quite a few other treatments, she wasn't just limited to this treatment. I've contacted my friend who had it done to get the specifics and will post again when she replies. The color and consistency is what comes out in the water. This is the foot spa I'm referring to- the video shows what I'm talking about. D-Tox Foot Spa <http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=M9iJO/Zpuaw & offerid=127265.100 04257 & type=3 & subid=0> KerryAnn http://www.cookingtf.com/mailerau.html - NEW Australian TF Menu Mailer http://www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - TF forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 My family and myself are doing foot detoxing with NAET. You would be amazed(or grossed out) at the 'stuff' that comes out of your body through this. Sandy > >If you please, what kind of foot practitioner was this person? And what > > >kind of color consistency is being determined & where? > > She did colonics and quite a few other treatments, she wasn't just limited > to this treatment. I've contacted my friend who had it done to get the > specifics and will post again when she replies. > > The color and consistency is what comes out in the water. This is the foot > spa I'm referring to- the video shows what I'm talking about. D-Tox Foot > Spa > <http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=M9iJO/Zpuaw & offerid=127265.100 > 04257 & type=3 & subid=0> > > KerryAnn > > http://www.cookingtf.com/mailerau.html - NEW Australian TF Menu Mailer > > http://www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - TF forum > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Hi, I had heard about it once before @ a spa, I think? Never realized it was so effective, wow. Just, Jim mom4him48 <mom4him48@...> wrote: My family and myself are doing foot detoxing with NAET. You would be amazed(or grossed out) at the 'stuff' that comes out of your body through this. Sandy > >If you please, what kind of foot practitioner was this person? And what > > >kind of color consistency is being determined & where? > > She did colonics and quite a few other treatments, she wasn't just limited > to this treatment. I've contacted my friend who had it done to get the > specifics and will post again when she replies. > > The color and consistency is what comes out in the water. This is the foot > spa I'm referring to- the video shows what I'm talking about. D-Tox Foot > Spa > <http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=M9iJO/Zpuaw & offerid=127265.100 > 04257 & type=3 & subid=0> > > KerryAnn > > http://www.cookingtf.com/mailerau.html - NEW Australian TF Menu Mailer > > http://www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - TF forum > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 But, how do you know what is really coming out? Recently there was a news story debunking this (NOT that I believe what I hear in the news!). And a friend who owns one says that in a certain town, the water is always the same color. I'm not discounting the concept, but I'm a little skeptical. Also, I thought the toxin cleansing organs were the kidneys and liver, and eliminating organs were ALL of the skin, bladder, and bowels. Kathy Re: Detoxing through the feet My family and myself are doing foot detoxing with NAET. You would be amazed(or grossed out) at the 'stuff' that comes out of your body through this. Sandy > >If you please, what kind of foot practitioner was this person? And what > > >kind of color consistency is being determined & where? > > She did colonics and quite a few other treatments, she wasn't just limited > to this treatment. I've contacted my friend who had it done to get the > specifics and will post again when she replies. > > The color and consistency is what comes out in the water. This is the foot > spa I'm referring to- the video shows what I'm talking about. D-Tox Foot > Spa > <http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=M9iJO/Zpuaw & offerid=127265.100 > 04257 & type=3 & subid=0> > > KerryAnn > > http://www.cookingtf.com/mailerau.html - NEW Australian TF Menu Mailer > > http://www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - TF forum > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 When this treatment was first proposed to me by a chiropractor years ago, it didn't sit well with my intuition at all, just like the special waters didn't. I did a search on the internet and I found this website useful http://www.chem1.com/CQ/FootBathBunk.html I do, however, feel the placebo effect is very credible and important. If someone told me they had measurable benefits and effects from using this modality, I wouldn't doubt it. What matters most is feeling better but I just could never give this thing permission to help me. > > >If you please, what kind of foot practitioner was this > person? And what > > > > >kind of color consistency is being determined & where? > > > > She did colonics and quite a few other treatments, she wasn't just > limited > > to this treatment. I've contacted my friend who had it done to get the > > specifics and will post again when she replies. > > > > The color and consistency is what comes out in the water. This is > the foot > > spa I'm referring to- the video shows what I'm talking about. D-Tox Foot > > Spa > > > <http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=M9iJO/Zpuaw & offerid=127265.100 > > 04257 & type=3 & subid=0> > > > > KerryAnn > > > > http://www.cookingtf.com/mailerau.html - NEW Australian TF Menu Mailer > > > > http://www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - TF forum > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 > special waters didn't. I did a search on the internet and I found this > website useful http://www.chem1.com/CQ/FootBathBunk.html I'm hesitant to trust that website, since it contains some errors and sites quackwatch as a reliable source. KerryAnn http://www.cookingtf.com/mailerau.html - NEW Australian TF Menu Mailer http://www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - TF forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Yes I did notice that, the very same quackwatch that has some Weston price affiliated doctors on there, but it doesn't mean he doesn't break down what does or doesn't happen with water in a scientific way. I pay attention to the chemistry part because he is a chemist and leave the rest of his prejudices behind. In the end people believe what they believe and there is always going to be some " proof " we are going to find out there to align with whatever our belief system is. I just don't see how the whole foot detox thing is possible but again for those it helps, they could probably care less how it works as long as it works! But it's good to have a website that creates polarity so a person can see both sides of the argument. Most practitioners when presenting a modality don't take the time out to discuss both sides of something. I feel strongly about taking the time to look at both sides when a modality is presented to me since I have been hurt enough time by listening to doctors and chiropractors. > > > special waters didn't. I did a search on the internet and I found this > > website useful http://www.chem1.com/CQ/FootBathBunk.html > > I'm hesitant to trust that website, since it contains some errors and sites > quackwatch as a reliable source. > > KerryAnn > http://www.cookingtf.com/mailerau.html - NEW Australian TF Menu Mailer > http://www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - TF forum > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 I have to second you on quackwatch as well as foot detoxing. I am skeptical of quackwatch's cynicism toward homeopathy and alternative healing. Certainly, quackwatch tends to the extreme, but I think there is some value in the information shared on that particular website. In particular, he challenges one to question, which I believe is necessary in our day and age. The detoxing through the feet thing seems to feed into a compulsion to become 'toxin free'. The research I've found indicates that reason the water turns yucky is due to a chemical reaction of the metal, energy current and water. I used to do ear candling until I did an experiment with it (as recommended by quackwatch, mind you) and discovered that it is also completely bogus, not to mention potentially harmful. Yet, folks swear by it...even upon learning the truth about it. We can get so caught up in getting our 'nutrition' fix or 'toxin-free' fix that we lose touch with what is real. Balance is just as important (if not more) as eating habits or exercise. There is no shortage of advertising, marketing and economy that cashes in on fear. We are surrounded by it and permeated with it. Yet, I think we have a certain responsibility to question the obvious, to dig deeper. > > > > > special waters didn't. I did a search on the internet and I found this > > > website useful http://www.chem1.com/CQ/FootBathBunk.html > > > > I'm hesitant to trust that website, since it contains some errors > and sites > > quackwatch as a reliable source. > > > > KerryAnn > > http://www.cookingtf.com/mailerau.html - NEW Australian TF Menu Mailer > > http://www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - TF forum > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Sumner, Thanks for that clarification of the various treatment modalities. FYI, natural hygiene would completely agree with you that most treatments are much too invasive & complicate the innate healing process already in check. Just, Jim Sumner <sumner_33@...> wrote: I have to second you on quackwatch as well as foot detoxing. I am skeptical of quackwatch's cynicism toward homeopathy and alternative healing. Certainly, quackwatch tends to the extreme, but I think there is some value in the information shared on that particular website. In particular, he challenges one to question, which I believe is necessary in our day and age. The detoxing through the feet thing seems to feed into a compulsion to become 'toxin free'. The research I've found indicates that reason the water turns yucky is due to a chemical reaction of the metal, energy current and water. I used to do ear candling until I did an experiment with it (as recommended by quackwatch, mind you) and discovered that it is also completely bogus, not to mention potentially harmful. Yet, folks swear by it...even upon learning the truth about it. We can get so caught up in getting our 'nutrition' fix or 'toxin-free' fix that we lose touch with what is real. Balance is just as important (if not more) as eating habits or exercise. There is no shortage of advertising, marketing and economy that cashes in on fear. We are surrounded by it and permeated with it. Yet, I think we have a certain responsibility to question the obvious, to dig deeper. > > > > > special waters didn't. I did a search on the internet and I found this > > > website useful http://www.chem1.com/CQ/FootBathBunk.html > > > > I'm hesitant to trust that website, since it contains some errors > and sites > > quackwatch as a reliable source. > > > > KerryAnn > > http://www.cookingtf.com/mailerau.html - NEW Australian TF Menu Mailer > > http://www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - TF forum > > > Well done is better than well said..., Jim Igo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 I don't know whether foot spas work or not. But the skin may well detox more through the feet, based on the number of sweat glands there. What I do know, is that detoxification schemes are dangerous, because they mobilize metals from where they may be encapsulated in your body, and while they are bouncing around, they could theoretically do more damage. So you need to be at bowel tolerance for vitamin C, and up on your zinc for metallothionen promotion and selenium for glutathione- in other words, get a handle on all your detoxification pathways before pulling metals from where they are stored. Better in the bones than in the brain. . . . We are doing edible clay next. I thought that quackwatch was run by the pharma beasts. . . is it on sourcewatch.org or similar? Desh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Hi Desh, Thanks for the insight, reminds me of heavy metals. Theoretically there could be many dangers, to date I know of few associated with negative ions? Maybe you know some of the dangers that I am unaware of to date. Ion therapy is against my age old belief in natural hygiene but is worth speculating as a reference point & to help objectify my thinking commensurate with the times. Best regards, Jim De Bell-Frantz <deshabell@...> wrote: I don't know whether foot spas work or not. But the skin may well detox more through the feet, based on the number of sweat glands there. What I do know, is that detoxification schemes are dangerous, because they mobilize metals from where they may be encapsulated in your body, and while they are bouncing around, they could theoretically do more damage. So you need to be at bowel tolerance for vitamin C, and up on your zinc for metallothionen promotion and selenium for glutathione- in other words, get a handle on all your detoxification pathways before pulling metals from where they are stored. Better in the bones than in the brain. . . . We are doing edible clay next. I thought that quackwatch was run by the pharma beasts. . . is it on sourcewatch.org or similar? Desh Well done is better than well said..., Jim Igo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 > Subject: Re: Detoxing through the feet > > I don't know whether foot spas work or not. But the skin may well detox > more through the feet, based on the number of sweat glands there. FWIW, dogs " sweat " primarily through their paws and tongue. Perhaps humans have more sweat glands there for the same reason (whatever it may be) that dogs do. Suze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Desh, Could you share some of your knowledge about mineral supplementation during detox or maybe what resources you learned this stuff from. Its very interesting! Thanks, Kathy Re: Detoxing through the feet I don't know whether foot spas work or not. But the skin may well detox more through the feet, based on the number of sweat glands there. What I do know, is that detoxification schemes are dangerous, because they mobilize metals from where they may be encapsulated in your body, and while they are bouncing around, they could theoretically do more damage. So you need to be at bowel tolerance for vitamin C, and up on your zinc for metallothionen promotion and selenium for glutathione- in other words, get a handle on all your detoxification pathways before pulling metals from where they are stored. Better in the bones than in the brain. . . . We are doing edible clay next. I thought that quackwatch was run by the pharma beasts. . . is it on sourcewatch.org or similar? Desh ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Desh, > I thought that quackwatch was run by the pharma beasts. . . is it on > sourcewatch.org or similar? Barrett, MD, appears to have some profound credibility issues. It seems he has made it a practice to go around filing lawsuits against doctors who practice any therapy he disagrees with. He had one bond of over $400,000 placed against him for bringing a frivolous defamation lawsuit. The courts have said he is decidedly not an expert and he no longer holds any medical license. http://www.foundationforhealthchoice.com/barrett_release.htm IMO, being on quackwatch could very well be a badge of honor, because it probably means you are doing something right which of course threatens the status quo, LOL! -- I will say that unless one is in some kind of daily, personal dynamic, be it marriage or monasticism, one will never truly see themselves. Like it or not in either of these situations there is inescapable feedback on one's character and choices...There is a built in reality gauge in living in an intimate vowed relationship that cannot be simulated otherwise. -Anonymous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 I know of people who look on quackwatch just to find alternative treatments - if Barrett is against it, it must be good! LOL! Have you seen the counter-website - quackpotwatch.org ? Pretty funny! > > Desh, > > > I thought that quackwatch was run by the pharma beasts. . . is it on > > sourcewatch.org or similar? > > Barrett, MD, appears to have some profound credibility issues. > It seems he has made it a practice to go around filing lawsuits > against doctors who practice any therapy he disagrees with. He had one > bond of over $400,000 placed against him for bringing a frivolous > defamation lawsuit. The courts have said he is decidedly not an expert > and he no longer holds any medical license. > > http://www.foundationforhealthchoice.com/barrett_release.htm > > IMO, being on quackwatch could very well be a badge of honor, because > it probably means you are doing something right which of course > threatens the status quo, LOL! > > > -- > I will say that unless one is in some kind of daily, personal dynamic, > be it marriage or monasticism, one will never truly see themselves. > Like it or not in either of these situations there is inescapable > feedback on one's character and choices...There is a built in reality > gauge in living in an intimate vowed relationship that cannot be > simulated otherwise. > > -Anonymous > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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