Re: Exercise Food Ideas?

[Guest guest]

--- Idol <paul.idol@...> wrote:

> so it'd have to be used for something cold but also fatty and fairly

> proteinaceous.

, I bring food to work for lunch. I'm not exercising then, but I

usually bring something with meat and cheese. I make a sandwich with

Alvarado Street sprouted bread once or twice a week. Cream cheese

with ground lamb is one of my favorites. You'd need something like a

small ice chest to keep it fresh however. Another favorite is peanut

butter and butter. You don't need to keep it cold. I use Maranatha

peanut butter, which should be low in aflatoxin and I pour off the oil

that separates to the top when I first open it. That should lower the

PUFA content. I use LOTS of peanut butter and butter. Lately I've

been using the Organic Valley pasture butter. If you're going gluten

free, ground meat mixed with cream cheese is pretty good by itself.

[Guest guest]

--- Idol <paul.idol@...> wrote:

> Cream cheese with ground lamb??? That sounds... bizarre.

LOL! they go go well together. I'm used to my wife and daughter

telling me my food is bizarre

How about some of your famous sausage? Should be good with some raw

milk cheese.

[Guest guest]

,

Frequently in the summer I spend the entire day working at my property in

the country. I bring baked or grilled meat, fruit, romaine lettuce, and baby

carrots to munch on while I'm out there, all in a cooler with ice. Cold

grilled chicken is excellent on a hot summer day. I've also let it set out

to get to room temperature before scarfing it down. I like to eat the

romaine like potato chips. And fruit is always great for a hot summer day.

None of these are fatty, though.

Kathy

Exercise Food Ideas?

When I play tennis, I'm typically on the courts pretty much the whole

day. It's time-consuming to get there, tennis is fun, getting fresh

air is good, I want the most exercise bang for my time buck, etc. etc.

etc. So needless to say, I need to bring food with me.

.....

I do have a second thermos meant for food rather than drinks, but

needless to say, the idea of bringing any kind of hot food out on a

hot summer day is utterly beyond contemplation, so it'd have to be

used for something cold but also fatty and fairly proteinaceous.

Any suggestions?

TIA,

[Guest guest]

Maybe some other sliced deli- or home-roasted meat spread and rolled

up with cream cheese and/or in a lettuce wrap?

--- In , Idol <paul.idol@...>

wrote:

>

> When I play tennis, I'm typically on the courts pretty much the

whole

> day. It's time-consuming to get there, tennis is fun, getting

fresh

> air is good, I want the most exercise bang for my time buck, etc.

etc.

> etc. So needless to say, I need to bring food with me.

>

> This is where it gets complicated, though, so I could use some

> suggestions. I've tried jerky, but it's too lean -- I stay hungry

> after eating it. (And to date, I haven't found or made any

pemmican

> that I can bear to gag down.) I've defaulted to bringing salami

to

> the court, which keeps well (because it's cured) and satisfies

> (because it's very fatty) but of course there's the pig fat PUFA

> factor along with other drawbacks, so I really want to stop doing

> that. I've sometimes brought kefir or yoghurt smoothies in a

> thermos... but that's often my breakfast, and I don't want to have

two

> of those in a day. Besides, the sugar:fat ratio is really too

high

> for enduring satiation, and the protein content might also be too

low

> to keep me full for any real length of time, so at best that's an

> adjunct, a snack, rather than a full meal.

>

> I do have a second thermos meant for food rather than drinks, but

> needless to say, the idea of bringing any kind of hot food out on

a

> hot summer day is utterly beyond contemplation, so it'd have to be

> used for something cold but also fatty and fairly proteinaceous.

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> TIA,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- Idol <paul.idol@...> wrote:

> Do you just mix cooked (or raw?) ground lamb with cream cheese? Do

> you season it?

, I wouldn't trust eating any ground meat raw. I'll eat steaks

rare, though I've never tried tartare yet. I break the ground lamb

into small bite sized chunks when I cook it. I sometimes add spices,

but not always, because I like to give a little to our dog and my wife

doesn't like me to do that if it has spices. When I have left-over

cooked ground lamb with cream cheese for lunch at work, when it's not

in a sandwich, I just take a bite of ground lamb and take a bite of

cream cheese and mix it in my mouth (aren't I lazy?). Tastes just the

same as pre-mixing it.

> Well, I've never had the facilities for drying sausage, so all my

> sausage is fresh, and perhaps more to the point, while I can't

> afford not to eat the remaining pork I have in my freezer, my

> present goal is to lower my total PUFA consumption past 4% as far as

> is reasonably possible, so sausage of any kind (unless I find a

> source of pork that's not raised on PUFA sources like corn and soy)

> isn't a viable option in the long term.

I was thinking pre-cooked sausage with cheese (you might have to keep

it cold to be safe). More cheese and less sausage to keep the PUFA

low. In the future, can't you make sausage with grass-fed beef? I've

even had some venison sausage that had jalapeno cheese already in it.

You could also include organ meats. I'm guessing that truly pastured

pork that isn't grain fed might also be much lower in PUFA (M

has referred to coconut fed pork that is high in saturated fat, but

unless you want to move to SE Asia, might be hard to find).

[Guest guest]

Pate and apples - though i think you shun sugar, so just pate;-) Or

pate and nuts.

Jane

--- In , Idol <paul.idol@...>

wrote:

>

> When I play tennis, I'm typically on the courts pretty much the

whole

> day. It's time-consuming to get there, tennis is fun, getting

fresh

> air is good, I want the most exercise bang for my time buck, etc.

etc.

> etc. So needless to say, I need to bring food with me.

>

> This is where it gets complicated, though, so I could use some

> suggestions. I've tried jerky, but it's too lean -- I stay hungry

> after eating it. (And to date, I haven't found or made any

pemmican

> that I can bear to gag down.) I've defaulted to bringing salami

to

> the court, which keeps well (because it's cured) and satisfies

> (because it's very fatty) but of course there's the pig fat PUFA

> factor along with other drawbacks, so I really want to stop doing

> that. I've sometimes brought kefir or yoghurt smoothies in a

> thermos... but that's often my breakfast, and I don't want to have

two

> of those in a day. Besides, the sugar:fat ratio is really too

high

> for enduring satiation, and the protein content might also be too

low

> to keep me full for any real length of time, so at best that's an

> adjunct, a snack, rather than a full meal.

>

> I do have a second thermos meant for food rather than drinks, but

> needless to say, the idea of bringing any kind of hot food out on

a

> hot summer day is utterly beyond contemplation, so it'd have to be

> used for something cold but also fatty and fairly proteinaceous.

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> TIA,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Any suggestions?

>

> TIA,

>

>

Eat well the day before.

Hard boiled eggs with little packets of mustard, yum. Or you could

make deviled eggs with coconut oil (fast short chain FAs) and keep

them in an insulated lunch bag with some blue ice.

tuna with coconut oil goes down easy on hard-working days, for me.

Put a little veg (jicama, celery, carrot) in there to make it all

metabolize easy.

A friend of mine makes her own " goo " with whey protein powder,

bananas, and nut butter. Freezes it in snack bags. But I bet you'd

want a regular lunch, take a half hour and really digest?

Any sandwich on Ezekiel bread. I stay away from grains usually but Ez

bread works well for just the occasion you mention.

Connie

>

[Guest guest]

You've tried grasslandbeef's pemmican and didn't like it? I think it tastes

amazing.

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Idol <paul.idol@...> wrote:

> (And to date, I haven't found or made any pemmican

> that I can bear to gag down.)

>

--

Alan (alanmjones@...)

[Guest guest]

I am doing a milk fast and noticed that I feel like I can handle more

strenuous activity, but I also notice that I drink a lot of milk (2

warm cups every 60-90 minutes). I add a dash of salt a few drops of

stevia extract. The electrolytes and the minerals in milk really seem

to do me good when I would sweat a lot.

Since fasting on raw milk only for two weeks I have to say I respect

it much more as a complete and whole food capable of supplying the

body with everything it needs...but you do need a lot of it and I

understand why the masai drank as much as they did. Over the course

of a day I go through 1 1/2 gallons, 1/2 a gallon of it being goats

milk fresh from that morning, the other gallon organic pastures.

My reccomendation then would be to give more milk a try, and see how

you feel. I don't know when I will start eating solid food again, I

just feel so good and energetic drinking nothing but milk.

-

PS, you don't put kefir in a stainless steel thermos do you? That

might be a bad idea with nickel.

>

> When I play tennis, I'm typically on the courts pretty much the whole

> day. It's time-consuming to get there, tennis is fun, getting fresh

> air is good, I want the most exercise bang for my time buck, etc. etc.

> etc. So needless to say, I need to bring food with me.

>

> This is where it gets complicated, though, so I could use some

> suggestions. I've tried jerky, but it's too lean -- I stay hungry

> after eating it. (And to date, I haven't found or made any pemmican

> that I can bear to gag down.) I've defaulted to bringing salami to

> the court, which keeps well (because it's cured) and satisfies

> (because it's very fatty) but of course there's the pig fat PUFA

> factor along with other drawbacks, so I really want to stop doing

> that. I've sometimes brought kefir or yoghurt smoothies in a

> thermos... but that's often my breakfast, and I don't want to have two

> of those in a day. Besides, the sugar:fat ratio is really too high

> for enduring satiation, and the protein content might also be too low

> to keep me full for any real length of time, so at best that's an

> adjunct, a snack, rather than a full meal.

>

> I do have a second thermos meant for food rather than drinks, but

> needless to say, the idea of bringing any kind of hot food out on a

> hot summer day is utterly beyond contemplation, so it'd have to be

> used for something cold but also fatty and fairly proteinaceous.

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> TIA,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > Do you just mix cooked (or raw?) ground lamb with cream cheese? Do

> > you season it?

>

> , I wouldn't trust eating any ground meat raw.

Raw ground beef is totally safe, I eat raw beef all the time, as do

dozens of other mostly-raw and all-raw foodists, as well as hundreds

of millions of people throughout Europe, the Middle East, and Asia. I

also eat raw pork, it's still safe as long as the pigs are not raised

in unhealthy conditions where they are exposed to trichinosis.

mike

[Guest guest]

Raw ground beef is not totally safe. I would grind it myself. The key

is that you must have good gut flora to handle it. And follow it with

maybe a fat spoon of cultured vegs for insurance.

If you do not have the proper gut flora you can end up in the

hospital as I did with a serious infection. This is not a anecdotal

suggestion.

But its totlally worth it to begin buiulding your gut toward

consuming raw meat - there is not much of a better food. Except raw

organs, I suppose, or raw shellfish or eggs.

Jane

> > > Do you just mix cooked (or raw?) ground lamb with cream

cheese? Do

> > > you season it?

> >

> > , I wouldn't trust eating any ground meat raw.

>

> Raw ground beef is totally safe, I eat raw beef all the time, as do

> dozens of other mostly-raw and all-raw foodists, as well as hundreds

> of millions of people throughout Europe, the Middle East, and

Asia. I

> also eat raw pork, it's still safe as long as the pigs are not

raised

> in unhealthy conditions where they are exposed to trichinosis.

>

> mike

>