Re: facial flushing or thermal reaction after eating

[Guest guest]

When I took niacin as a detox treatment.

Worked a little too well, I made myself really sick.

With food I've felt it when I had MSG not realizing it.

Raw cream and milk is a new one to me though, maybe someone has an idea.

Did you feel dizzy or light headed at all?

Dawn

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Carol Saunders

Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:10 PM

Subject: facial flushing or thermal reaction after eating

Have you ever felt a noticeable increase in your body temperature after

eating something? It is not uncomfortable or bad; it is actually quite a

nice feeling. Sometimes I get a warm feeling about 15-20 minutes after

eating some foods. For example, this usually happens when I have miso with

something.

Lately, I have been experiencing flushing in my cheeks and noticeable

warmness after eating a drink consisting of raw cream, raw milk and raw egg

yolks.

A coworker noticed the change in my face today after I had my " drink " . I

told him a bit about this reaction today and he commented that he " hoped it

wasn't due to allergies " . I have never had allergy problems before that I

know of. I do not think this is a case of allergies.

Anyone else have these " thermic " reactions?

Carol S.

[Guest guest]

I got it a few times after eating homemade sauerkraut or kimchi and

after eating umeboshi plums. I also felt energized. There were

different explanations. One person here said it was, I forget,

either tyrosine or tyramine and it was bad. Someone else said

something about the Ayerveda foods and it was " pitta " or something

which meant warming. Personally, I had had facial numbness from

cranial nerve damage from lyme and somewhere in that time period my

feeling returned to my face so I think that may have been it. When

the feeling returned to other parts of my body I felt sensations,

sometimes warmth and sometimes prickling. I figure the

sauerkraut/kimchi/umeboshi are all strongly healing and it was doing

some good in me. That numbness was really weird because it had

happened so gradually that it took me years to notice it!

>

> Have you ever felt a noticeable increase in your body temperature

after eating something? It is not uncomfortable or bad; it is

actually quite a nice feeling. Sometimes I get a warm feeling about

15-20 minutes after eating some foods. For example, this usually

happens when I have miso with something.

>

> Lately, I have been experiencing flushing in my cheeks and

noticeable warmness after eating a drink consisting of raw cream, raw

milk and raw egg yolks.

>

> A coworker noticed the change in my face today after I had

my " drink " . I told him a bit about this reaction today and he

commented that he " hoped it wasn't due to allergies " . I have never

had allergy problems before that I know of. I do not think this is a

case of allergies.

>

> Anyone else have these " thermic " reactions?

>

> Carol S.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes consuming say more than 10% protein of your daily intake or exceeding the

recommended daily intake to any extent seems to produce warmness. Ever ate a

whole pound of peanuts, beans or other legumes? Very warming feeling. If you

are concerned about food allergies you could reference to the blood type

lectins, etc. They will give you a whole list of foods to prefer as well as

avoid based on your blood type.

Best Always, Jim

Carol Saunders <carolnpepa@...> wrote:

Have you ever felt a noticeable increase in your body temperature

after eating something? It is not uncomfortable or bad; it is actually quite a

nice feeling. Sometimes I get a warm feeling about 15-20 minutes after eating

some foods. For example, this usually happens when I have miso with something.

Lately, I have been experiencing flushing in my cheeks and noticeable warmness

after eating a drink consisting of raw cream, raw milk and raw egg yolks.

A coworker noticed the change in my face today after I had my " drink " . I told

him a bit about this reaction today and he commented that he " hoped it wasn't

due to allergies " . I have never had allergy problems before that I know of. I do

not think this is a case of allergies.

Anyone else have these " thermic " reactions?

Carol S.

[Guest guest]

Did you lose the numbness overnight?

I didn't realize I had IBD for the longest time because it was gradual.

Then one day I thought to myself it cant be normal to be this uncomfortable

all the time and to throw up from the pain of it once a week.

It's amazing and dangerous how we will grow accustomed to things.

Dawn

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of haecklers

Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:38 PM

Subject: Re: facial flushing or thermal reaction after eating

I got it a few times after eating homemade sauerkraut or kimchi and

after eating umeboshi plums. I also felt energized. There were

different explanations. One person here said it was, I forget,

either tyrosine or tyramine and it was bad. Someone else said

something about the Ayerveda foods and it was " pitta " or something

which meant warming. Personally, I had had facial numbness from

cranial nerve damage from lyme and somewhere in that time period my

feeling returned to my face so I think that may have been it. When

the feeling returned to other parts of my body I felt sensations,

sometimes warmth and sometimes prickling. I figure the

sauerkraut/kimchi/umeboshi are all strongly healing and it was doing

some good in me. That numbness was really weird because it had

happened so gradually that it took me years to notice it!

>

> Have you ever felt a noticeable increase in your body temperature

after eating something? It is not uncomfortable or bad; it is

actually quite a nice feeling. Sometimes I get a warm feeling about

15-20 minutes after eating some foods. For example, this usually

happens when I have miso with something.

>

> Lately, I have been experiencing flushing in my cheeks and

noticeable warmness after eating a drink consisting of raw cream, raw

milk and raw egg yolks.

>

> A coworker noticed the change in my face today after I had

my " drink " . I told him a bit about this reaction today and he

commented that he " hoped it wasn't due to allergies " . I have never

had allergy problems before that I know of. I do not think this is a

case of allergies.

>

> Anyone else have these " thermic " reactions?

>

> Carol S.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The drink is mostly raw cream; enough raw milk to make it fluid enough to drink

easily, plus egg yolks.

I did not feel light headed or dizzy. I feel pretty good and happy too. Yes,

energized and happy is more like the feeling.

I eat a very high fat diet so I do not attribute the feeling to excess

protein.

I am not sure about this allergies; would an allergic reaction manifest as a

transient increase in temperature or facial flushing? What is different about

this versus the feeling of warmth over my whole body is that it is concentrating

mid-cheek towards my nose.

Carol S.

[Guest guest]

IMHO it doesn't seem like a bad thing. Perhaps your body is thanking you

for healthfulness =)

Mind sharing your recipe? I need to start drinking something like that and

getting my diet more like yours.

Regards,

Dawn

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Carol Saunders

Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: facial flushing or thermal reaction after eating

The drink is mostly raw cream; enough raw milk to make it fluid enough to

drink easily, plus egg yolks.

I did not feel light headed or dizzy. I feel pretty good and happy too. Yes,

energized and happy is more like the feeling.

I eat a very high fat diet so I do not attribute the feeling to excess

protein.

I am not sure about this allergies; would an allergic reaction manifest as a

transient increase in temperature or facial flushing? What is different

about this versus the feeling of warmth over my whole body is that it is

concentrating mid-cheek towards my nose.

Carol S.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn,

No recipe, really.

I mix about 2 cups raw cream, 3-4 pastured egg

yolks, and a little milk and whisk together.

Recently I started to add a tablespoon of white

miso (from South River Miso). This adds an

interesting dimension.

I may add vanilla + fresh nutmeg, or a little

Dandy Blend. You may add sweetener, but it does

not take much. Sometimes I add some kefir to

give it some zing. It all depends on your

tastes.

I drink from this during the day. It is quite

portable and I often have part of it before work

and take the remainder with me.

That's it! You can make it into whatever your

tastes are.

Carol S.

Dawn wrote:

> IMHO it doesn't seem like a bad thing. Perhaps

> your body is thanking you

> for healthfulness =)

> Mind sharing your recipe? I need to start

> drinking something like that and

> getting my diet more like yours.

[Guest guest]

I lost the numbness in patches, feet, legs, torso, parts of face.

Each patch had the feeling return over the period of a week or so

(that was noticable). Yes it is scary that things like this can

happen gradually without our noticing.

> >

> > Have you ever felt a noticeable increase in your body temperature

> after eating something? It is not uncomfortable or bad; it is

> actually quite a nice feeling. Sometimes I get a warm feeling about

> 15-20 minutes after eating some foods. For example, this usually

> happens when I have miso with something.

> >

> > Lately, I have been experiencing flushing in my cheeks and

> noticeable warmness after eating a drink consisting of raw cream,

raw

> milk and raw egg yolks.

> >

> > A coworker noticed the change in my face today after I had

> my " drink " . I told him a bit about this reaction today and he

> commented that he " hoped it wasn't due to allergies " . I have never

> had allergy problems before that I know of. I do not think this is

a

> case of allergies.

> >

> > Anyone else have these " thermic " reactions?

> >

> > Carol S.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

wonderful post! i get this! kind of often actually. i consistently eat

grassfed or pastured beef/chicken and coconut oil, mac nut oil, and

lard. nothing bad going in my body. however, inexplicably, i get this

same feeling! i have never worried about it but i do know that i get

it. i have always actually chalked it up to, rather than having

ingested something new or wierd, being in a state of greater awareness

after that particular meal and realizing something that probably

happens all the time but usually goes unnoticed. ever think about it

that way? maybe its always happening and you are slowly, or sometimes,

beginning to learn how to recognize it. just a thought. in any event,

i never let it bother me.

> Have you ever felt a noticeable increase in your body temperature

> after eating something? It is not uncomfortable or bad; it is

> actually quite a nice feeling. Sometimes I get a warm feeling about

> 15-20 minutes after eating some foods. For example, this usually

> happens when I have miso with something.

> >

> > Lately, I have been experiencing flushing in my cheeks and

> noticeable warmness after eating a drink consisting of raw cream, raw

> milk and raw egg yolks.

> >

> > A coworker noticed the change in my face today after I had

> my " drink " . I told him a bit about this reaction today and he

> commented that he " hoped it wasn't due to allergies " . I have never

> had allergy problems before that I know of. I do not think this is a

> case of allergies.

> >

> > Anyone else have these " thermic " reactions?

> >

> > Carol S.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

When I first changed the way I eat many years ago

I did experience a noticable cleansing reaction

with coconut oil. I describe it as more of an

episode; something of an unpleasant feeling that

lasted about 15 to 20 minutes that occured

sometimes an hour or several hours after

consuming the CO.

I recall once having CO prior to going to work

and about 2 hours later this " epidsode " came on.

I felt awful and thought perhaps I should go

home. I sat down for about 15 minutes, the

feeling passed, and I felt perfectly fine. From

then on I never worried about those " episodes "

because I was confident that they would be

temporary.

Curiously, back then, if I had breaks in using

the coconut oil regularly I would get this same

type of response but on a progressively milder

scale. Eventually it became this " warm and

fuzzy " feeling, but I do not notice it all of the

time.

Now that I think about it, the " episodes " were

accompanied by sweating + warmth where the

thermal reaction is all internal without sweat.

I have had the thermal reaction after meals with

an assortment of content. The one common thread,

like you stated, is that those meals are

comprised of high quality foods. I suppose we

may experience the thermal reaction at a

noticable level when everything in our bodies is

going great and we have given it exactly what it

needs at that moment.

My first drink of kombucha gave me the " warm and

fuzzy " thermal reaction. Our bodies are

facinating!

Carol S.

--- benyokohama <hungjury@...> wrote:

wonderful post! i get this! kind of often

actually. i consistently eat grassfed or pastured

beef/chicken and coconut oil, mac nut oil, and

lard. nothing bad going in my body. however,

inexplicably, i get this

same feeling! i have never worried about it but

i do know that i get it. i have always actually

chalked it up to, rather than having ingested

something new or wierd, being in a state of

greater awareness after that particular meal and

realizing

something that probably happens all the time but

usually goes unnoticed. ever think about it that

way? maybe its always happening and you are

slowly, or sometimes, beginning to learn how to

recognize it. just a thought. in any event, i

never let it bother me.

[Guest guest]

are you using a light cream? cream skimmed off a jar of milk? the raw heavy

cream that I

get is so thick it doesn't pour. I would have to add lots of milk to it. what do

you do with

the egg whites? I scramble mine.

>

> > IMHO it doesn't seem like a bad thing. Perhaps

> > your body is thanking you

> > for healthfulness =)

>

> > Mind sharing your recipe? I need to start

> > drinking something like that and

> > getting my diet more like yours.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm glad you got better though, it gives me hope =)

Dawn

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of haecklers

Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:52 AM

Subject: Re: facial flushing or thermal reaction after eating

I lost the numbness in patches, feet, legs, torso, parts of face.

Each patch had the feeling return over the period of a week or so

(that was noticable). Yes it is scary that things like this can

happen gradually without our noticing.

> >

> > Have you ever felt a noticeable increase in your body temperature

> after eating something? It is not uncomfortable or bad; it is

> actually quite a nice feeling. Sometimes I get a warm feeling about

> 15-20 minutes after eating some foods. For example, this usually

> happens when I have miso with something.

> >

> > Lately, I have been experiencing flushing in my cheeks and

> noticeable warmness after eating a drink consisting of raw cream,

raw

> milk and raw egg yolks.

> >

> > A coworker noticed the change in my face today after I had

> my " drink " . I told him a bit about this reaction today and he

> commented that he " hoped it wasn't due to allergies " . I have never

> had allergy problems before that I know of. I do not think this is

a

> case of allergies.

> >

> > Anyone else have these " thermic " reactions?

> >

> > Carol S.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Skimmed off of whole raw milk, for now. The

normal cream that I get is as you describe.

The drink is very thick, like a batter.

The proverbial excess of egg whites; I save them

frozen in ice cube trays but often discard them.

Carol S.

--- carolyn_graff <zgraff@...> wrote:

> are you using a light cream? cream skimmed off

> a jar of milk? the raw heavy cream that I

> get is so thick it doesn't pour. I would have

> to add lots of milk to it. what do you do with

> the egg whites? I scramble mine.

>

[Guest guest]

>What do you do with the egg whites?

Make Holiday Pecans from the Nourishing Traditions cookbook! MMMMMMMMmmm!

Kathy

---- Carol Saunders <carolnpepa@...> wrote:

> The proverbial excess of egg whites; I save them

> frozen in ice cube trays but often discard them.

>

> Carol S.

>

> --- carolyn_graff <zgraff@...> wrote:

>

>>what do you do with

>> the egg whites? I scramble mine.

[Guest guest]

also good for clarifying stock

desh