Re: Chris M. Article on Pregnancy nutrition

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

> So would you suggest those of us pregnant mamas to be tested for

> levels first before started such high doses?

You probably want to get about 4,000 IU between sunshine and food and

supplements altogether -- the main problem is you don't know what

you're getting from the sun. If your insurance covers the 25(OH)D

test and you can afford it, it can only help give you more

information. So I would say, go for it.

If you are very averse to taking tests or have no insurance or can't

afford it, I don't think that should scare you away from taking about

4,000 IU D in the winter, maybe 2,000 IU in the spring and fall, and

less than 1,000 IU in the summer. But yes, since there is a good and

reasonably accurate test for it, it makes no sense to advise *against*

testing because there is no harm to it and it can only help you make

more accurate choices.

However, I think the extent of Mercola's paranoia on the issue is

unjustified, and I also think that if you are getting plenty of

vitamin A and K2, you need to worry even less.

[snip]

> Thanks for writing such informative articles. I really appreciate it.

> You really helped me once before when we thought my daughter had

> Gluten intolerance.

How is she doing nowadays?

> Blessings and thanks for all your hard earned work and study.

You're welcome and thank you.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Hi and all,

How often, though, would one have to get tested?

Is the 4,000 IUs for pregnant women as well?

anyone know offhand how many tsps adds up to 4,000 IU's in high

vitamin CLO from green pastures?

It's interesting because Dr. Ron often recommends high doses of CLO

and has for me as well, and seems to disregard Mercola's and other's

warnings about toxicity. I asked him about this about 4 years ago

during my first pregnancy and he felt that Mercola was wrong on this

issue, but I can't remember his reasoning.

so you believe, chris, that one can get too much vit. d from CLO?

thanks. interesting topic.

thanks as well, chris, for the great article. sorry if i am repeating

questions that are answered in the article or here in another

thread--it also takes me time to absorb all of this!

lisa

>

> Hi ,

>

> > So would you suggest those of us pregnant mamas to be tested for

> > levels first before started such high doses?

>

> You probably want to get about 4,000 IU between sunshine and food and

> supplements altogether -- the main problem is you don't know what

> you're getting from the sun. If your insurance covers the 25(OH)D

> test and you can afford it, it can only help give you more

> information. So I would say, go for it.

>

[Guest guest]

> anyone know offhand how many tsps adds up to 4,000 IU's in high

> vitamin CLO from green pastures?

Hi!

1/2 tsp of Blue Ice cod liver oil = 575 IU vitamin D

so 3.47 tsp (1 tablespoon + 1/4 tsp) = 4000 IU vitamin D

http://www.greenpasture.org/products/cod-liver-oil/1001

~ Lillea

[Guest guest]

Dr. Ron's CLO is more expensive but it also contains a lot more Vit A and D so

you can take

less of it. This would make the price more reasonable. you will also get less

PUFA's by using

Dr. Ron's/Green Pasture/Radiant Life brands since you won't need to take as

much.

--- In , " luvmyblessings "

<blessedby6children@...>

wrote:

> Personally I take Carlson brand which comes no wear near the doseages

> of vit a and d as the high vitamin clo but I am not sure what to take

> to be honest.

> I take about 1 3/4 tsp of carlson.

> I was going to order the Dr rons CLO but its just too expensive.

> And who in the world can afford the Xfactor butter oil. SHEESH.

> I think I will have to stick wtih butter. I can't find raw around here

> so its organic pastuerized I guess.

[Guest guest]

The Carlson info:

http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_detail.phtml?prodid=00205 click on

supplement facts. Per teaspoon, 700-1200 IU Vitamin A (naturally

occurring variation) 440 IU vitamin D. When I was pregnant, I took

tons of Carlson cod liver oil. They also have one labeled Super in the

gelcaps, which has a higher vitamin value. I didn't know much about PUFA

ratios then, but thankfully had a fairly low pufa diet, since I prefer

butter and animal fats to olive oil and can't afford tons of nuts. I

have no quarrel with the experts about better brands, but we simply can't

afford the good stuff in the monthly budget, only occaisionally as a

splurge. For what it's worth, the Carlson worked- all the bumps

disappeared on the back of my arms, and I had no PPD. If you've had many

kids and a western diet, I would also suggest iodine, magnesium, vitamin

K and b vitamins, especially if you breastfeed. I'm sure I had the

deficiencies all along (with the A), but having the kids made many of the

symptoms pop.

Desh

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

> How often, though, would one have to get tested?

Every six months for a year or two is probably extra-safe. Make sure

you test once in the summer to monitor your high point.

> Is the 4,000 IUs for pregnant women as well?

Yes.

> anyone know offhand how many tsps adds up to 4,000 IU's in high

> vitamin CLO from green pastures?

Three teaspoons comes very close and four goes over.

> It's interesting because Dr. Ron often recommends high doses of CLO

> and has for me as well, and seems to disregard Mercola's and other's

> warnings about toxicity. I asked him about this about 4 years ago

> during my first pregnancy and he felt that Mercola was wrong on this

> issue, but I can't remember his reasoning.

> so you believe, chris, that one can get too much vit. d from CLO?

Well there is no direct evidence of that, and there is reason to

believe that high doses with CLO would not be toxic when the same

doses of supplements would be because of the vitamin A, but there is

also no direct evidence that it is safe or necessary to get mega-doses

of D from CLO so it is more sensible to moderate your dose.

Also, I think one could get too much omega-3 PUFA from lots of CLO.

Remember that Price only used 0.75 tsp/day and called high doses

" toxic. " We don't know how high-vitamin is CLO was, but it seemed to

me the toxicity he was concerned with was probably mediated by the

PUFA. He stressed the importance of keeping it fresh, using small

bottles so it was not exposed to oxygen much. Still, he was concerned

with the total dose and not just the freshness. Our CLO is probably

fresher than his because of better technology but I still think 1-2

tbsp long-term is too much PUFA. Short-term I think it is ok and can

be beneficial.

> thanks. interesting topic.

>

> thanks as well, chris, for the great article. sorry if i am repeating

> questions that are answered in the article or here in another

> thread--it also takes me time to absorb all of this!

You're welcome.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Where is the article the original poster mentioned? Was it in Wise

Traditions? Thanks!

[Guest guest]

On 2/6/08, penciloid <hoppythetoad@...> wrote:

> Where is the article the original poster mentioned? Was it in Wise

> Traditions? Thanks!

It's based on my lecture at the recent WT conference and is in the

current issue of WT.

Chris