Re: Fructose & Metabolic Syndrom

[Guest guest]

Chris

Good point. I am not aware of any major studies comparing the food-

grade fructose and lab-made HFCS, other than small ones promoting the

health benefits of food like honey (not in comparison)..let me cite

3..

http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/109662003322233549?

cookieSet=1 & journalCode=jmf

http://www.foodnavigator.com/news/ng.asp?id=59482-honey-and-calcium

http://www.news.uiuc.edu/scitips/02/0408honey.html

To give credence to to the benefits of honey, as in this example, we

know manuka honey and in general, honey is considered anti-bacterial

and so forth, and good for wound healing etc. So it seems this food-

grade fructose & a bunch of Flavonoids

(pinocembrin,pinostrobin),disaccharides, oligosaccharides, enzymes,

amino acids, vitamins, and minerals put together does a lot of help,

especially if it is not processed. You could say/show that kind of

benefits with some anti-oxidant fruits too like berries, Pom,

Cherries, Acai, Goji etc.

But isn't HFCS always processed? Can HFCS produce or be shown to

have, in any study, that any small amounts,if any, of health benefits

of the food-based fructose in foods mentioned above.? Just like many

can attest to the benefits of raw milk over processed ones etc. &

vice versa..

Yes,i take your point that there may not be in-depth evidence, like

in a controlled study, yet, to prove much in terms of the different

effects of fructose, be it in whole foods or in isolated forms, in

comparison, scientifically studied. So consider my statements only

anecdotal, where I have experienced much benefits from Berries and

raw honey especially, and i appreciate the fructose in these foods

(along with the other elements) doing good for me, and I do use them

only moderately, realizing the sugar content of these foods. Also you

had a good point about God being the one who made the man who makes

and prepares all foods- from kefir to HFCS and anything in between

them; and honey being neither a plant or an animal , but a different

category-perhaps a food of an insect. It is well taken.

Thanks Tom for your comments too

Regards

Vijay

O Lord, how manifold are thy works! In wisdom thou hast made them

all; the earth is full of thy riches.

Psalm 104:24

>

> Vijay,

>

> > I think it will benefit to differentiate between HFCS/man-made

Fructose

> > and real God-made Fructose itself. Also, I would guess most of the

> > fructose in store foods today are chemically made, and not the

pure

> > ones from fruits.

>

> > Fruits are all fructose (plus many other

vitamins/minerals/enzymes).

> > Real Honey is largely fructose. Agave (desert plant) nectar which

is a

> > safe sweetner is 90% fructose. In moderation, I would think these

> > unprocessed versions of foods should be fine.

>

> I think it would be of benefit if anyone had evidence that they act

> differently. Until such evidence is produced, it would make more

> sense to consider differences between HFCS and fruit due to the

> protective factors in fruit.

>

> God didn't make honey any more than he made HFCS, did he? It is

bees

> who actually make the honey and man who extracts it and prepares it

> for human use. Of course God made the bees but he made man too.

>

> Chris

>

[Guest guest]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Typing just doesn't

carry voice inflection well.

BTW, I did stuff myself and get fat then and it didn't work out so

well. LOL!

>

> I think stuffing yourself and getting fat would be much more

> appropriate to pregnancy and lactation. And of course, suppressing

> detoxification.

>

> Chris

>

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Masterjohn "

<chrismasterjohn@...>

wrote:

> Well there you have it, Boris. Thanks Connie. Now we'll all stop

> bantering for everyone to allow their 53-hour continuous glucose

> infusions to pass through the night.

>

> So, correction everyone: start your glucose infusion in the morning,

> and break it up into 16-hour shifts.

>

> Chris

" There I have it " ? Notwithstanding the humor, I hope I did not offend anyone,

it was not

my intention.

I don't think this should be about ego (who does the most googling, researching,

etc.

etc.), about being " right " .

I write from my own experience, firsthand. My pillars of healthy lifestyle are

1) experience and experimentation on my own body

2) research and analysis

3) common sense

Your experience with your body and health WILL be your own and unique, and

different

from mine or anyone elses, or from any causality studies or books etc.

All that said, if you want your comfy food at night, by any means take it,

without feeling

guilty. Warm milk and honey are a working sleeping aid, and beat artificial

medications.

And living the longest or healthiest forever need not be goals to pursue, as

they become

self-serving and in effect may cause their own issues in the denial of other

primary

needs.

Thus, my statement and advice shall also be taken with a major grain of salt.

(There you have it: a carby late-night snack with salt!). :-)

Peace,

Boris