Re: Question for the herbalists here...

[Guest guest]

Lana,

> After recognizing the high Manganese content of Raspberry leaf tea,

I hope you have been drinking the tea throughout your pregnancy. I

once recommended it to a friend of mine whose wife had a history of

hemorrhaging during delivery. This was her 5th pregnancy and she drank

it throughout her pregnancy. After the baby was born he told me

everything about it except whether or not she did a lot of bleeding.

He was baiting me as he knew I was dying to hear the outcome. Finally

he said, " it made a world of difference, thank you. " After that his

wife didn't think I was such a radical idea weirdo anymore :-)

> and

> recalling a prior discussion here on boneset and it's levels of Vitamin C, I

> was wondering if anyone could direct me to a resource that lists nutrient

> data for herbs. Nutritiondata doesn't seem to have much on non-culinary

> herbs.

I wish I could help here. I always have to plow through tons of

websites to get any precise data for the general categories (yes I

know this herb has calcium but how much? type of thing), as I did

during the sleep thread started.

--

" How do they become one flesh? " As if she were gold receiving purest

gold, the woman receives the man's seed with rich pleasure, and within

her it is nourished, cherished, and refined. It is mingled with her

own substance and she then returns it as a child! "

St. Chrysostom

[Guest guest]

" I was wondering if anyone could direct me to a resource that lists

nutrient data for herbs. "

A book that has been recommended to me--but I have not looked for it

yet--is Nutritional Herbology by Mark Pederson. I would trust her

recommendation. Let us know if you find it and find it useful . . .

e

[Guest guest]

>

> I hope you have been drinking the tea throughout your pregnancy.

Unfortunately not. I wish I had found it sooner as I really like it.

I do however get at least the RDA of manganese, if not more - it has been

one of my favorite makes-me-feel-good nutrients since I found it when coping

with the mercury poisoning. So if it is the manganese that causes it to be

so effective, I'm covered.

I wish I could help here. I always have to plow through tons of

> websites to get any precise data for the general categories (yes I

> know this herb has calcium but how much? type of thing), as I did

> during the sleep thread started.

Sometimes I find it quite frustrating that all the data is out there, it

just takes so much time to find.

-Lana

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I'll check it out.

-Lana

A book that has been recommended to me--but I have not looked for it

> yet--is Nutritional Herbology by Mark Pederson. I would trust her

> recommendation. Let us know if you find it and find it useful . . .

>

>

> e

>

[Guest guest]

e Raphael <justineraphael@...> wrote: " I was wondering if

anyone could direct me to a resource that lists

nutrient data for herbs. "

A book that has been recommended to me--but I have not looked for it

yet--is Nutritional Herbology by Mark Pederson. I would trust her

recommendation. Let us know if you find it and find it useful . . .

e

I have this book and find it very informative. It also has a section that

combines herbal formulas for specific needs. Each herb listed is broken down

into mineral, fat, calorie, ash, etc content. Below is a description:

Nutritional Herbology provides the nutritional profile or " label " for 106

commonly used herbs and natural foods. It is ironic that avid " label readers "

are only provided nutritional profiles of processed foods, while the most

desirable foods, natural herbs, foods and food supplements are never sold with

nutritional information, until now.

The publication of NUTRITIONAL HERBOLOGY is the first time in many instances

that the nutritional information concerning herbs has been published and

certainly the first time a comprehensive compilation of such information has

been made.

This publication is the culmination of over four years of extensive

nutritional herb research performed by the author.

The nutritional profiles of the herbs provide the basis for analysing

traditional uses of each herb and also 30 famous herbal combinations and

formulas. NUTRITIONAL HERBOLOGY combines a detailed history and use of each herb

with the nutritional profile to explain and interpret many historical uses of

herbs as foods and medicines.

--Bill

[Guest guest]

I have been looking and looking for a nutrition data for herbs, but

haven't found one. Here are some good links I found along the way:

Dr. Jim Duke's Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical database:

http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke/index.html

University of Michigan Native American database of plants used as food,

medicine, and dyes:

http://herb.umd.umich.edu/

plants for future- 7000 plant database, edible and medicinal (no boneset

info)

http://www.pfaf.org/index.php

University of Pittsburgh list of Alt. Med. databases- I haven't gotten

through all these yet:

http://www.pitt.edu/~cbw/database.html

Desh

Now, does anyone have a more complete resource?

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[Guest guest]

--- Lana Gibbons <lana.m.gibbons@...> wrote:

> I do however get at least the RDA of manganese, if not more - it has

> been one of my favorite makes-me-feel-good nutrients since I found

> it when coping with the mercury poisoning. So if it is the

> manganese that causes it to be so effective, I'm covered.

Lana, here's some foods and spices that are high in manganese:

mg Manganese per 100 g (3.53 oz)

26.5 Spices, ginger, ground

16.7 Spices, cinnamon, ground

13.3 Wheat germ, crude

10.5 Spices, parsley, dried

7.9 Spices, thyme, dried

7.8 Spices, turmeric, ground

6.4 Spices, coriander leaf, dried

5.6 Spices, pepper, black

4.7 Spices, oregano, dried

4.5 Nuts, pecans unroasted

4.4 Sugars, maple

4.0 Cereals ready-to-eat, wheat, shredded, plain, spoon size

The RDA is 7.7 mg for manganese. Of course, most people don't eat 100

grams of spice every day, so here's a list based on more typical

serving size.

mg Manganese per serving

3.8 0.25 cup Wheat germ, crude

2.1 1 cup Rice, brown, medium-grain, cooked

2.0 1 6 " Pancakes, whole-wheat, dry mix, incomplete, prepared

2.0 1 cup Cereals ready-to-eat, wheat, shredded, plain spoon size

1.9 1 cup Macaroni, whole-wheat, cooked

1.9 1 cup Spaghetti, whole-wheat, cooked

1.4 1 cup Cereals, oats, regular/quick/instant, cooked with water

1.3 1 oz Nuts, pecans unroasted

1.2 1 packet QUAKER, Instant Oatmeal, maple brown sugar, prepared

1.2 0.5 cup Miso

1.1 0.5 cup Tempeh

1.1 0.5 cup Lima beans, immature seeds, boiled, drained

1.0 1 cup Cereals ready-to-eat, GENERAL MILLS, CHEERIOS

1.0 1 oz Nuts, walnuts, english unroasted

0.9 0.5 cup Pineapple, raw, all varieties

0.9 1 lrg Sweet potato, cooked, baked in skin, without salt

0.9 1 cup Sweet potato, cooked, boiled, without skin

0.9 1 oz Nuts, macadamia nuts, dry roasted, without salt added

0.9 1 tsp Seeds, pumpkin and squash seed kernels, dried

0.8 0.5 cup Chickpeas (garbanzo beans), mature seeds, boiled

0.8 1 oz Nuts, coconut meat, dried (desiccated), not sweetened

0.7 1 oz Nuts, almonds, dry roasted, without salt added

I get most of my manganese from 1 oz per day of Fearn nitrogen flushed

wheat germ that I keep in the fridge after opening to minimize

oxidation of the PUFA.

[Guest guest]

Lana,

> I do however get at least the RDA of manganese, if not more - it has been

> one of my favorite makes-me-feel-good nutrients since I found it when coping

> with the mercury poisoning. So if it is the manganese that causes it to be

> so effective, I'm covered.

I don't know. I just know it is a great pregnancy herb and I have seen

some very good results with it. I usually recommend it be drunk in

large quantities and sourced from an absolutely pristine supplier,

like Pacific Botanicals.

> I wish I could help here. I always have to plow through tons of

>> websites to get any precise data for the general categories (yes I

>> know this herb has calcium but how much? type of thing), as I did

>> during the sleep thread started.

>

> Sometimes I find it quite frustrating that all the data is out there, it

> just takes so much time to find.

There are books, just no one stop online source, at least to my knowledge.

--

" How do they become one flesh? " As if she were gold receiving purest

gold, the woman receives the man's seed with rich pleasure, and within

her it is nourished, cherished, and refined. It is mingled with her

own substance and she then returns it as a child! "

St. Chrysostom