Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 An Intro: LP: Obviously there are many ways and methods one can go about fat loss. Low carb, caloric cycling, shakes only, etc. What do you feel that IF offers that sets it apart from other methods? Where do you think it really shines, not only in a scientific standpoint, but mentally as well? MB: The answer to this question is best answered from different point of views. Bear with me and you'll understand where I'm going here. For the dieter, IF offers something very unique, in terms of enjoying physically and psychologically satisfying meals while losing weight. The absence of hunger and cravings are also a welcome feature when using IF for weight loss. Contrary to popular belief, the fasting phase has a suppressive effect on hunger. Hunger pangs may come, but they disappear quickly, to be replaced by a sense of well being and total absence of hunger. This is my take on generic weight loss methods: I believe that the " nibbling " approach to dieting, which is so often encouraged by mainstream nutritionists and mass media, may aggravate hunger, rather than keeping it at bay. I can speak for myself, and several of my clients, when I'll say that several small meals a day does more to potentate cravings, and subsequent hunger, rather than suppressing it. There's also the psychological sense of hunger that must be taken into account, while discussing how dieters think and work. I honestly feel that the psychological form of deprivation, i.e. the absence of some favorite foods that you might not be able to enjoy on a generic high meal frequency plan, is much worse than any form of physical hunger. Some people will gladly trade constant cravings for the casual physical hunger that might occur during the fasted phase on IF. Notice that I'm saying " might " , since some people, including me, don't get hungry at all during the fast (there's probably an adaptive component to be taken into account here). Now, obviously the above doesn't hold true for everyone. Like every diet approach out there, there's differences among individuals in what works and what doesn't, but so far, in my experience, there seems to be a lot more " hits " than " misses " , when it comes to the success rates of people using IF for weight loss. There's also the nutrient partitioning effects I believe that IF may provide when combined with strength training - basically, I think that IF is a very flexible tool, that can be used in several ways, to improve body composition. Others will enjoy the cognitive effects of IF. I'm mainly thinking about people with professions that require a high degree of focus and concentration; for example programmers and writers, that may want to increase their productivity during work hours. Due to the increase in catecholamines during the fast, productivity goes up and you'll feel more involved in whatever you're doing; the effect can be compared to a mild stimulant. Personally, that's one of the benefits I really appreciate as a writer and online diet consultant. I spend a lot of time in front of the computer, reading, writing and corresponding back and forth. Having not to think about food, and feeling clear headed and focused, is something I find very useful when it comes to time management and productivity. And then again, there are the health benefits not to be forgotten. Improving insulin sensitivity and other health indicators, such as cardiovascular health for example, is undoubtedly of interest to a large number of people, whose main priority is to stay healthy and reduce risk factors for different types of metabolic and cardiovascular diseases. IF also offers neuroprotective benefits, which may protect from brain degenerative diseases like Alzheimers, for example. These benefits are unique to this diet approach and cannot be achieved, to the same degree, with traditional calorie restriction and exercise. http://avidityfitness.net/2008/01/12/interview-martin-berkhan/ Body Transformation http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6324201 -- " How do they become one flesh? " As if she were gold receiving purest gold, the woman receives the man's seed with rich pleasure, and within her it is nourished, cherished, and refined. It is mingled with her own substance and she then returns it as a child! " St. Chrysostom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 -I'm wondering if this explains what has been working for me. I've tried to lose weight gained from steroids for years - but being hypothyroid/adrenal I have not been able to get it to move until recently when I started strictly eating only when hungry and stopping at full. Although it's not actually a fast, I feel the same effects mentioned. I feel better when I do this than I have in years - I have so much more focus and energy, so I get more accomplished, I don't have cravings for junk and most of the time, I could care less whether I eat or not. I have been pondering what it is exactly that makes this work so well. I don't think I really eat less - it's just 'arranged' differenly - though I suspect I do eat fewer carbs, since I dont' actually want them most of the time - but not to the extent you could term it 'low carb'. Whateer it is, I like it. -- In , <slethnobotanist@...> wrote: > > An Intro: > > LP: Obviously there are many ways and methods one can go about fat > loss. Low carb, caloric cycling, shakes only, etc. What do you feel > that IF offers that sets it apart from other methods? Where do you > think it really shines, not only in a scientific standpoint, but > mentally as well? > > MB: The answer to this question is best answered from different point > of views. Bear with me and you'll understand where I'm going here. > > For the dieter, IF offers something very unique, in terms of enjoying > physically and psychologically satisfying meals while losing weight. > The absence of hunger and cravings are also a welcome feature when > using IF for weight loss. Contrary to popular belief, the fasting > phase has a suppressive effect on hunger. Hunger pangs may come, but > they disappear quickly, to be replaced by a sense of well being and > total absence of hunger. > > This is my take on generic weight loss methods: I believe that the > " nibbling " approach to dieting, which is so often encouraged by > mainstream nutritionists and mass media, may aggravate hunger, rather > than keeping it at bay. I can speak for myself, and several of my > clients, when I'll say that several small meals a day does more to > potentate cravings, and subsequent hunger, rather than suppressing it. > > There's also the psychological sense of hunger that must be taken into > account, while discussing how dieters think and work. I honestly feel > that the psychological form of deprivation, i.e. the absence of some > favorite foods that you might not be able to enjoy on a generic high > meal frequency plan, is much worse than any form of physical hunger. > > Some people will gladly trade constant cravings for the casual > physical hunger that might occur during the fasted phase on IF. Notice > that I'm saying " might " , since some people, including me, don't get > hungry at all during the fast (there's probably an adaptive component > to be taken into account here). > > Now, obviously the above doesn't hold true for everyone. Like every > diet approach out there, there's differences among individuals in what > works and what doesn't, but so far, in my experience, there seems to > be a lot more " hits " than " misses " , when it comes to the success rates > of people using IF for weight loss. > > There's also the nutrient partitioning effects I believe that IF may > provide when combined with strength training - basically, I think that > IF is a very flexible tool, that can be used in several ways, to > improve body composition. > > Others will enjoy the cognitive effects of IF. I'm mainly thinking > about people with professions that require a high degree of focus and > concentration; for example programmers and writers, that may want to > increase their productivity during work hours. Due to the increase in > catecholamines during the fast, productivity goes up and you'll feel > more involved in whatever you're doing; the effect can be compared to > a mild stimulant. > > Personally, that's one of the benefits I really appreciate as a writer > and online diet consultant. I spend a lot of time in front of the > computer, reading, writing and corresponding back and forth. Having > not to think about food, and feeling clear headed and focused, is > something I find very useful when it comes to time management and > productivity. > > And then again, there are the health benefits not to be forgotten. > Improving insulin sensitivity and other health indicators, such as > cardiovascular health for example, is undoubtedly of interest to a > large number of people, whose main priority is to stay healthy and > reduce risk factors for different types of metabolic and > cardiovascular diseases. > > IF also offers neuroprotective benefits, which may protect from brain > degenerative diseases like Alzheimers, for example. These benefits are > unique to this diet approach and cannot be achieved, to the same > degree, with traditional calorie restriction and exercise. > > > http://avidityfitness.net/2008/01/12/interview-martin-berkhan/ > > Body Transformation > > http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6324201 > > > -- > " How do they become one flesh? " As if she were gold receiving purest > gold, the woman receives the man's seed with rich pleasure, and within > her it is nourished, cherished, and refined. It is mingled with her > own substance and she then returns it as a child! " > > St. Chrysostom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Sure-Fire Fat Loss My name is Berkhan and I work as a nutritional consultant, magazine writer and personal trainer. I also happen to be a proponent of intermittent fasting for health, fitness and fat loss. I have my own blog about fasting (www.leangains.com), but when Mike asked me if I'd like to make a guest post on his blog, I thought that'd be a great way to present my method in greater detail. The Leangains protocol consists of two phases; 16 hours of fasting, followed by 8 hours of feeding. During this period, three meals are usually eaten. Depending on the day, the composition of those meals varies; on workout days, carbs are prioritized before fat, while on rest days fat intake is higher. Protein remains fairly high on all days. That's a very basic and general description of the protocol I employ; of course, variables change depending on goals, gender, age, body fat and activity levels, but it would be hard to describe it in greater detail without drifting off too far. Most of my clients are fitness enthusiasts, athletes and weight trainers, but the great majority of them have one thing in common – to look good naked. The 'gain' in Leangains can therefore be a bit misleading, as most of my clients wants to lose fat, while retaining as much muscle as possible in the process. While their diets might vary, it rests on some nutritional principles that I thought I'd present to the crowd reading this post. These principles will work for everyone, regardless of fitness level. Here are a few guidelines that I consider success factors for performance, fat loss and excellent diet compliance. • On workout days, break the fast with meat, veggies and a fruit. If you're planning to train shortly after this meal, add a few carbs in the form of a starch source – potatoes or whole grain bread, for example. Make it a medium sized meal and don't stuff yourself. Train within 3 hrs of having eaten this meal and have a much larger meal after your workout; in this meal, add more complex carbs – and you may even have one of your favourite treats as dessert, if it's not too high in fat and if eaten in moderation. Good examples of what I refer to as 'treats': low fat ice cream, sorbet or JC's cheesecake. Bad example: Chinese buffet or your son's birthday cake. You get the point, keep it within moderation and don't pig out. • On rest days, eat less calories than on workout days - do this by cutting down on carb intake, and make meat, fibrous veggies and fruit the foundation of your diet for this day. The first meal of the day should be the largest, in contrast to workout days where the post-workout meal is the largest. Largest doesn't necessarily mean largest in terms of volume; I suggest getting at least 40% of your calorie intake in this meal, and the dominant macronutrient should be protein. I'll have some clients eating upwards to 100 g protein in this meal, so don't be afraid to pile on the meat (or whichever protein source you prefer). Fattier meat and fish like ground beef and salmon are examples of some excellent protein sources that may be consumed on rest days. • In the last meal of the day, include a slow digesting protein source; preferably egg protein, cottage cheese (or any other source of casein based protein). Meat or fish is also ok if you add veggies or supplement with fiber. This meal will keep you full during the fast and exert an anti-catabolic effect on muscle protein stores by ensuring that your body has an ample supply of amino acids until the next meal. • Whole and unprocessed foods should always take priority over processed or liquid foods, unless circumstance demands a compromise. For example, you might find yourself in situations when there is little time to eat or prepare foods – in such a situation, having a protein shake or meal replacement bar is ok, where as solid, more satiating foods should be consumed whenever there is ample time to cook. These are a few of the principles I've employed with great success; there's a bit more to it, but this should get you started in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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