Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 chronic bone pain sounds like fibromyalgia. I read an interesting article (I think by Dr. Wong) about l-tryptophan greatly alleviating the symptoms of fibromyalgia (which could be due to an inability in the body to break proteins down to the amino acids, like protease deficiency). Here's something recently posted on lymestrategies, I don't know where she cut this from, so sorry about not being able to give you the source but there are references at the bottom: I have bought 5-HTP at Walmart. But I find it less expensive at http://www.totaldiscountvitamins.com/Default.asp where you get free shipping with $85.00 plus purchase. Serotonin Deficiency Syndrome Depression Obesity Alcoholism Premenstrual syndrome (PMS) Anxiety disorders, including panic Fibromyalgia Insomnia Migraine headaches Obsessive-compulsive disorder Aggressive or violent tendencies ********************************************************************** ********************** What do these seemingly unrelated conditions have in common? They all may be caused by a deficiency of serotonin in the brain, according to a substantial body of medical research conducted over the past several decades. Serotonin, a neurotransmitter that carries vital signals between brain cells, is involved in numerous central nervous system actions, such as the regulation of mood, sleep and appetite. Poor diet, lack of exercise, use of harmful substances such as caffeine or alcohol, and ongoing physical and emotional stress can depress the levels of serotonin your body makes, resulting in the range of serious problems mentioned above, or what is collectively known as serotonin deficiency syndrome. Out of the ten or so major neurotransmitters in the brain, serotonin is the one researchers and scientists are most concerned with in the onset and the treatment of these various medical and psychiatric problems. Many studies have been focused on how it affects behavior, mood, aggression, appetite control, pain transmission, sexual behavior, and many more of our traits, activities and functions. In the past few decades, these intensive research programs by both pharmaceutical companies and universities have led to the development of many powerful serotonin-active medications. Most well known of these drugs are Prozac, a popular antidepressant which enhances the mood-regulating activity of serotonin, and Redux, an appetite suppressant that controls eating by delivering a dose of serotonin to the appetite control centers in the brain. Other serotonin-altering drugs relieve anxiety, enhance sleep, and ease muscular and skeletal pain. Unfortunately, these drugs come with troublesome side effects that are well documented and can be severe. Redux, and its partner, Pondimin, prescribed as the fen-phen combination, were recently removed from the market after doctors discovered that they caused permanent damage to the heart valves in as many as one third of the people who took them. But there is another way, a natural way, to increase levels of serotonin in the brain. Serotonin is produced inside the body from tryptophan, an amino acid found in many foods. You may be aware of how eating a large turkey dinner or drinking a cup of warm milk has a calming and sedating effect on the body. Both turkey and milk have plentiful amounts of the amino acid, tryptophan. Yet tryptophan, after being ingested, must first be converted into 5-hydroxy-L- tryptophan, or L-5-HTP, before itâ?Ts final conversion into serotonin. But what ever happened to Tryptophan? READ VERY CAREFULLY - Editor Tom OBrien, NC The amino acid tryptophan, once a popular supplement for relaxation and sleep-enhancement, was removed from the market in 1989 after its mistaken association with a number of deaths. (Later it was determined that a contaminated batch from a single manufacturer in Japan had been responsible, but tryptophan was never released back onto the market.) Editor's Note " The Commission of Health of the FDA reapproved L- Tryptophan back in March 2001 for public consumption but the powerful interests of the pharmaceutical cartel ensure no Medical or Science Journalists covered the story. It is completely legal to market L- Trytophan today). ********************************************************************** ******************** The following ad copy is from a 5-HTP supplier but good educational material - Tom OBrien, NC Fortunately for us, L-5-HTP supplements are readily available, and much more effective. Compared with L-tryptophan, L-5-HTP is one step closer to serotonin in the body's manufacturing process. In addition, far more L-5-HTP is converted to serotonin (70% versus 1-3% for tryptophan) making dietary L-5-HTP far more efficient than L- tryptophan at boosting serotonin levels in the brain. And because it is extracted naturally from an African herb (Griffonia simplicifolia), L-5-HTP is inherently safer than a synthetically produced compound like L-tryptophan. L-5-HTP A Natural Alternative to Prozac 60 - 100 mg Capsules In Europe, L-5-HTP has been used for decades as an approved treatment for depression, sleep problems and other medical complaints. It is just now starting to sweep America. There is substantial scientific evidence to support the contention that L-5-HTP is a safe, natural way to boost brain serotonin levels. Detailed clinical trials have shown L-5-HTP to produce results equal to or better than standard synthetic drugs used in the treatment of problems arising from serotonin deficiency syndrome, including depression. L-5-HTP and Depression As research mounted during the 1970s and â?~80s L-5-HTP was increasingly regarded as a potentially valuable antidepressant with few side effects. Results of dozens of studies have shown L-5-HTP to be just as effective as the established drugs; the SSRIâ?Ts such as Prozac, the MAO inhibitors and the tricyclic antidepressants. The advantages of L-5-HTP lie in the fact that L-5-HTP is better tolerated and associated with fewer and much milder side effects, the most common being digestive distress, and it usually went away with continued use of the supplement. L-5-HTP and Fibromyalgia Over the past 25 years, Dr. Federigo Sicuteri at the University of Florence in Italy, has treated many patients for fibromyalgia with L- 5-HTP and has accumulated a tremendous amount of evidence of its success. In a published report, he notes, " In our experience, as well as that of other pain specialists, L-5-HTP can largely improve the painful picture of primary fibromyalgia. " A double-blind study from the rheumatology unit of a prominent Milan hospital involved 50 patients, divided into two groups. The group that received L-5-HTP (100 mg per day) showed significant improvement in their symptoms, while the placebo group experienced virtually no improvement. Improvements with many symptoms were noted; number of painful areas, morning stiffness, sleep patterns, anxiety and fatigue. In a similar, second study, patients who took 100 mg of L-5-HTP three times daily reported initial results in several days, with maximum results at 30 days, and the benefits of the treatment continuing at that level through the rest of the 90 day trial. L-5-HTP also produces excellent results as a treatment for chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), due in large measure to its improvement of sleep quality and mood. L-5-HTP and Weight Loss L-5-HTP can play an important role in its ability to help people lose weight. A 1992 placebo-controlled, double-blind study reported excellent results treating obesity using 900 mg L-5-HTP daily. Participants taking L-5-HTP lost 3-5 times as much weight as those who were taking a placebo. One important function of serotonin is to signal the brain when the body has ingested a sufficient amount of food, creating a feeling of satisfaction and fullness. With depressed levels of serotonin, it takes longer for the brain to recognize this satisfied feeling, and you are likely to eat more. Because L-5-HTP increases serotonin, and because serotonin makes you feel like youâ?Tve eaten enough, taking L- 5-HTP can reduce your appetite. And because increased levels of serotonin can improve your mood and raise your energy level, it may be much easier to stick to a diet as well as commit to an exercise plan, which contributes to further weight loss. L-5-HTP and Migraines Clinical research shows that L-5-HTP is as effective as pharmaceutical drugs in reducing symptoms of migraine headaches, presumably because of its serotonin-boosting properties. According to researchers at the University of Milanâ?Ts Pain Research and Treatment Unit, anywhere from 77.4 to 93.5 percent of people with chronic daily headaches get better when they take L-5-HTP. This study lasted two months and results continued to improve the longer the patients took L-5-HTP. L-5-HTP and Insomnia First reported during the early 1970s in studies by Dr. J. Wyatt, at the National Institute of Health in Bethesda, ., and Dr. Zarcona at Stanford University, L-5-HTP is proving to be a much more effective alternative for dealing with sleep problems in a safe and natural way. According to the studies, the advantage of L- 5-HTP lies in its ability to improve sleep quality by increasing the length of time spent in both REM sleep and in deep sleep, without increasing total sleep time. The higher the dose, the more time spent in REM. By shifting the balance of the sleep cycle, L-5-HTP makes sleep more restful and rejuvenating. In addition, L-5-HTP has also been reported in numerous double-blind clinical studies, to decrease the time required to get to sleep and to decrease the number of awakenings. How much is usually taken? In a controlled trial, L-5-HTP (300 mg per day) was shown to be effective in reducing many symptoms of fibromyalgia, including pain, morning stiffness, sleep disturbances, and anxiety. Migraine attacks were reduced in frequency, severity, and duration in 90% of those taking 400 mg per day of L-5-HTP in a well-controlled trial. Larger doses of L-5-HTP (600 mg per day) were found to be as effective as prescription medications for reducing migraine headache attacks in adults in two double blind studies. Children who suffered from migraines and had problems sleeping responded well to a daily dose of L-5-HTP equal to 20 mg for every 10 lbs of body weight in a controlled study. For depression, 300 mg per day is often effective. A single 100 mg nighttime dose of L-5-HTP was sufficient to improve the duration and depth of sleep in one placebo-controlled study. Appetite reduction and weight loss (averaging 11 lbs in twelve weeks) has occurred with doses of 600â? " 900 mg daily. Vitamin B6, niacin, and magnesium help convert L-5-HTP to serotonin. Side Effects or Interactions L-5-HTP causes mild gastrointestinal disturbances in some people. These side effects include mild nausea, heartburn, flatulence, feelings of fullness, and rumbling sensations. Check with your health care provider before taking L-5-HTP if you have high blood pressure or diabetes, are pregnant or nursing, are taking antidepressant drugs, such as monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs) or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). L-5-HTP may add to the effects of St. 's wort. ********************************************************************** *********************** REFERENCES: Caruso I, Sarzi Puttini P, Cazzola M, Azzolini V. 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A functional-dimensional approach to depression: Serotonin deficiency as a target syndrome in a comparison of 5-hydroxytryptophan and fluvoxamine. Psychopathology 1991;24:53â? " 81. Ceci F, Cangiano C, Cairella M, et al. The effects of oral 5- hydroxytryptophan administration on feeding behavior in obese adult female subjects. J Neural Transmission 1989;76:109â? " 17. Cangiano C, Ceci F, Cascino A, et al. Eating behavior and adherence to dietary prescriptions in obese adult subjects treated with 5- hydroxytryptophan. Am J Clin Nutr 1992;56:863â? " 67. --- In , Helen Wang <dingyung49@...> wrote: > > Hi, > > Lately I went to an immunolosist due to chronic bone pain/hives. He did blood test on me. One of it is a sort of metabolic testing. Doctor presented to me my metabolic health map chart. My patterns of metabolic function are mostly imbalances. I do not understand at all the charts like total abnormal relationships chart/Normal but inverted type/integrated type. All those showed imbalance. I did little research most metabolic test is through urine test. I need to pay $140.00 inorder to get my answer for my nutrition balance. Does anybody knows about this? Wonder how accurate the test was. Does it worth to pay $140.00 to find out? My pain and hives are getting out of my daily life and driving me nuts. Thanks if anybody knows about it. Helen > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 If you like, take a look at www.canlyme.com - it has a list of symptoms of lyme disease, which is often undiagnosed for years, especially if people don't get the rash when the tick bites. I'm just wondering if the " hives " you are referring to is an atypical lyme rash, which can flare up years after the tick bite (and even when your body is getting healthier). Mine was painful and felt prickly, crawly, etc. which is atypical. It could account for the bone aches as well, which is often a symptom in children especially but happens to adults as well. --- In , Helen Wang <dingyung49@...> wrote: > > > > Thanks. I have been taking L-5HTP 100mg for a while. It did help me sleep better. > Not sure I have FM. My bone, muscle, vessels all fare up and in pain and make me so tired get throu a day. I am thinking about DMSO, which seems helping relief pain. I wonder are there any doctor in our group can explain one of my blood test, which is below normal range...I guess it is some sort of autoimmuse disorder. > > Complement C3, Seruim 79 low mg/dl Adult range 90-180 > Complement C4 Seruim 9 " range 9-36 > > Not sure how can I help this level up. My doctor did not explain to me and just suggested me getting allergy shot. My allergy is not bad at all just my hives bother me. search internet, allergy shot seems not helping much about hive. Helen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Igenix lab in California has a pretty good test. There is also the Bowen Q-ribb that uses a darkfield microscope to see the lyme spirochetes in the fluid - so if they say you have it, you do. Interestingly, they tested a bunch of people with alzheimer's on the Q-ribb and found lyme in all of them. Same thing for MS. Makes some think it is an epidemic. If you'd like a dietary approach to treating it, I highly recommend the salt/c protocol, which you can read about on the www.lymephotos.com website and there is a discussion group called lymestrategies that supports people using that protocol. It's also been written up in the Townsend Letter (well, kind of, Marc talked with the researcher who wrote an article and he had some information in there about how sensitive the lyme spirochete is to small fluctuations of salinity). > > > > > > > > Thanks. I have been taking L-5HTP 100mg for a while. It did help > me sleep better. > > Not sure I have FM. My bone, muscle, vessels all fare up and in > pain and make me so tired get throu a day. I am thinking about DMSO, > which seems helping relief pain. I wonder are there any doctor in > our group can explain one of my blood test, which is below normal > range...I guess it is some sort of autoimmuse disorder. > > > > Complement C3, Seruim 79 low mg/dl Adult range 90-180 > > Complement C4 Seruim 9 " range > 9-36 > > > > Not sure how can I help this level up. My doctor did not explain > to me and just suggested me getting allergy shot. My allergy is not > bad at all just my hives bother me. search internet, allergy shot > seems not helping much about hive. Helen > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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