The Neurotransmitter Precursor Group of Nutrients in Willy's Baggie; and their cost

[Guest guest]

Introduction

The following material talks about the heart of the

" neurotransmitter precursor group of nutrients " in

Willy's baggie; as well as defines their cost per

baggie.

The nutrients discussed below, when taken with some

necessary vitamin and mineral cofactors, can broadly

increase one's neurotransmitter levels " across the

board " ...to include increasing serotonin, dopamine,

norepinephrine, and virtually ALL the rest.

I admittedly upgraded the material below after an

earlier version of it was posted in a egroup

called Safeharbor2, as I saw a use for it in many

places on the Internet.

Lastly, there is a large links section to other blogs

on my 360 site at the end of this one. These

blogs are either somewhat related to this one, or I

felt that they may be useful to the reader in some way

(and thus I made it easy for these blogs to be found).

Darman

Dear group:

The cost of supplementation has been brought up in

here, and I am glad that it has.

This cost issue is an issue that is very germane for

many, to also include myself (as there are times that

I have to skip the supplementation that I sure would

like to be taking, simply due to the fact that I

cannot afford such).

What good it is if adequate supplementation to

overcome a condition such as bipolar disorder is

simply too costly for most people, as seems to be the

case here? I am afraid that I just don't know the

answer to this question.

The " system " will often pay for various medications to

treat bipolar disorder, but it won't pay hardly a dime

for nutritional supplements in order to treat the

same.

This situation certainly suggests the need for " system

change " , but how and/or when this is ever going to

happen is anybody's guess... that's for sure. As much

as Big Pharma seems to be behind the scenes bribing

our lawmakers and perhaps some FDA officials as well,

I don't think that the system is going to change any

time soon.

The following material discusses " the neurotransmitter

precursor group of nutrients " in my son Willy's

baggie; as well as their cost. These neurotransmitter

precursors (precursors are " nutrient building blocks " )

are represented by the various amino acids, carnitine,

and phosphatidyl choline in Willy's baggie.

(Admittedly, these nutrients also need various

vitamins and minerals in which to work. However, the

cost of these vitamin and mineral cofactors is not

discussed herein, nor are they specified... as there

are many different varieties thereof.)

The free form amino acids listed below (as per

" Willy's baggie " ), along with phosphatidyl choline and

carnitine and broad based vitamin and mineral support,

increase the level of every single one of the hundred

or so neurotransmitters that are scientifically known

at this time. These nutritional supplements increase

serotonin, they increase dopamine, they increase

norepinephrine, and they increase virtually ALL the

rest of one's neurotransmitter levels as well. And

these supplements do so in a fairly balanced fashion

(in regard to excitation vs. inhibition); and in a

fashion that is rather readily adjustable, should any

minor problems arise.

As costly as the entirety of supplements in my son

Willy's baggie may be, the free form amino acid,

carnitine, and phosphatidyl choline component of

" Willy's baggie " is not as much as it might seem.

What follows is the list of the free form amino acid,

carnitine, and phosphatidyl choline component " Willy's

baggie " , as reflected on

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=64.

After each item listed is the price per capsule, and

the price per baggie of each item shown.

Note: I am not using the least expensive sources that

I can find in regard to the price breakdown shown

below, but I am using sources that I consider to be

" decent " in both price and quality. And in the case of

the amino acids blends named that I get from

www.jomarlabs.com, I am not aware of any equivalent

source. (I should mention that I receive no salary or

commission from Jomar Labs, nor am I compensated by

them in any other way whatsoever. This same goes for

www.iherb.com, the other supplement source that is

mentioned below.)

Willy’s Baggie Ingredient List; its amino acid,

carnitine, and phosphatidyl component ONLY:

1. Fifteen Pure Form 21 capsules, 500 mg. ea., source

www.jomarlabs.com

One bottle of 500 capsules costs $38.60, or $.077 ea.,

or $1.16 per fifteen capsules in one baggie.

2. Five to Seven WAC capsules, 450 mg. ea., source

www.jomarlabs.com

One bottle of 505 capsules costs $28.30, or $.056 ea.,

or $.39 per seven capsules in one baggie.

[Note: WAC blend is an excitatory blend of amino acids

for most people. The balance (excitation vs.

inhibition) in the nutrients listed here can be

modified by increasing or decreasing the amount of WAC

blend, while leaving the Pure Form 21 blend the same.

I aimed for balance in mixing all of the amino acids

reflected here. I did this by mixing excitatory and

inhibitory nutrients in the amounts that are shown.

These amounts have worked consistently well for both

my son and I. However, some persons may need to make

adjustments to what we are doing, such that the amino

acids taken are not too excitatory or inhibitory for

them. One good way to do this is simply to adjust the

WAC amount, while leaving the other amino acid amounts

alone. There are other ways to do this as well. And

the good news here is that if adjustments are

necessary, all one has to get is " somewhere in the

ballpark " , as the body and brain are both quite

capable of making substantial adjustments in which to

achieve balance.]

3. One or sometimes Two Taurine capsules, 620 mg. ea.,

source www.jomarlabs.com

One bottle of 242 capsules costs $13.20, or $.055 ea.,

or $ .05 per one capsule in one baggie.

[Taurine is an inhibitory amino acid, and a fairly

powerful one.]

4. Three Glutathione formula blend capsules, source

www.jomarlabs.com

One bottle of 300 capsules costs $18.50, or .062 ea.,

or $.18 per three capsules in one baggie.

5. Two Tryptophan capsules, 500 mg. ea., source

www.iherb.com

One bottle of " Doctor's Best " tryptophan, 90 capsules,

costs $16.38, or .182 per capsule, or $.36 per two

capsules in one baggie.

[Tryptophan is inhibitory for some persons, and

excitatory for others. In regard to myself, tryptophan

is inhibitory; in regard to my son Willy, it is

excitatory, what is sometimes called a " paradoxical

reaction " . Despite our differences in this regard,

Willy and I both respond very well to the overall

amino acid formula listed here, and neither one of us

sees a reason to change.]

6. One or sometimes Two L-Carnitine capsule, 600 mg.

ea., source www.jomarlabs.com

One bottle of 90 capsules costs $32.40, or $.36 ea.,

or $.36 per one capsule in each baggie.

7. Two or three capsules of Phosphatidyl Choline (from

www.iherb.com, as per

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1 & pid=2649)

One bottle of 90 softgels costs $10.17, or $.113 ea.,

or $.34 per three capsules in one baggie.

[Phosphatidyl choline and carnitine seem to increase

the level of acetylcholine in the brain. Doing so is

inhibitory; almost like the effect of lithium, but

without any adverse effects whatsoever. Both Willy and

I have responded VERY positively to these two

supplements, and they help us a great deal.]

********************************************************************************\

*************************

The total cost of the amino acid, carnitine, and

phosphatidyl choline portion of the baggie of

supplements that Willy and I take is $2.84 per baggie,

excluding any freight charges. This cost translates to

$85.20 per month, assuming one takes a baggie a day

for a period of thirty days.

********************************************************************************\

*************************

The total initial outlay for one bottle each of the

supplements listed above is $157.55, not including any

taxes (if applicable) or freight. This initial outlay

does not change the cost per month of supplementation,

as this was costed on a " per capsules and softgels

actually being used " basis. Some of these initial

bottles will have product left over at the end of the

first month, that's all... such that the second

month's purchases will be considerably less than the

first.

My son Willy only takes a baggie every other day, due

to the costs involved. This cuts his monthly outlay

for the amino acid, carnitine, and phosphatidyl

choline portion of his baggie in half, to only $42.60.

Myself, I take a baggie every single day whenever I

can afford such, as this nutrient formula has been so

incredibly helpful to me.

Although the cost of $2.84 for the free form amino

acid, carnitine, and phosphatidyl choline component of

Willy's baggie may seem high to some, to both Willy

and I, this is a cost that we are glad to pay. We both

" feel " a substantial health benefit from these

supplemental nutrients... and this is no " placebo

affect " , that is for sure.

Quite obviously, the free form amino acid, carnitine,

and phosphatidyl choline component in " Willy's baggie "

(as reflected in the above) does NOT represent a

proper nutrient formula all on its own. Free form

amino acids need vitamins and minerals in which to

work properly, as nutrients act in synergy with one

another. It is best not to take nutrients in

isolation; it is much better to take the entire

nutrient range " all at once " , as far as healing goes.

(I have to credit Adelle here, as she clearly

stated this idea almost forty years ago.)

Incidentally, I have found from experience that

besides needing vitamins and minerals as necessary

nutrient cofactors, free form amino acids also seem to

work much better when combined with the super-green

component (chlorella, spirulina, and super blue-green

algae) of " Willy's baggie " as well. Willy's experience

with mixing super-greens and free form amino acids

together for " the greater benefit of both " strongly

concurs with mine. (He knows that when he leaves the

super-green portion out of his baggie, it does not

help him nearly as much as it should.)

Conclusion

This blog answers the question of " what would it cost

to add a free form amino acid, carnitine, and

phosphatidyl choline component to any pre-existing

vitamin and mineral routine? " For $85.20 a month,

someone can add a total of 840 free form amino acid

capsules, 30 carnitine capsules, and 90 phosphatidyl

choline softgels to their monthly supplement routine.

Even these additional ingredients (without adding any

more) to a pre-existing broad based vitamin and

mineral supplement regime could make a substantial

positive difference for many persons with a unipolar

or bipolar diagnosis, or so I believe.

I sincerely hope that there is a class action lawsuit

someday against both the drug industry and the medical

profession as a whole.... for ignoring the obvious

(amino acids, other nutrients, etc.) in regard to

dealing with depression (and bipolar disorder, ADHD,

and so much else). It is absolutely ludicrous that

conventional medicine continues to promote

antidepressant drugs in an attempt to treat

neurotransmitter deficiencies, when essential

nutrients can so readily do the same thing.

I cannot believe how much fourteen grams (28 capsules)

of adequately balanced free form amino acids, along

with carnitine, phosphatidyl choline, vitamins,

minerals, super-greens, and the other various

ingredients in " Willy's baggie " , has helped both my

son and I. And the beauty of what we are doing, is how

simple it is... we just take " our baggies " , as well as

deal with our hidden food allergies and problematic

" gut issues " in an adequate fashion. How " simple " can

recovery from ADHD, bipolar disorder, weak and sickly

health (Willy recovered from sickly childhood health),

depression, and perhaps so much else, be?

Unfortunately, " simple " for Willy and I, although

incredibly easy to implement, is admittedly somewhat

expensive.

Darman

Cautionary notes:

I did include carnitine and phosphatidyl choline in

with the costing of the amino acids in Willy's baggie,

as I do not recommend taking one without the other, as

per the note on the blog titled " Willy's Baggie

Ingredient List " at

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=64

as follows:

Cautionary note 1: I do NOT recommend taking free from

amino acids as suggested above without also taking

carnitine and phosphatidyl choline in order to cover

acetylcholine, the key missing neurotransmitter that

amino acids don’t make. In my opinion, when one acts

to broadly increase neurotransmitters by taking broad

based amino acids, they should perhaps always be

adding carnitine and phosphatidyl choline to their

supplement routine as well.

I also ALWAYS recommend dosing up slowly with amino

acids, as per a second note on the blog titled

" Willy's Baggie Ingredient List " as follows:

Cautionary note 2: Free form amino acids can affect

people differently. Some people may not be able to

take the above amino acid prescription without it “not

feeling quite right for them”. One can easily find

this out by oneself at home, by taking free form amino

acids and then “making adjustments accordingly”. The

general safety rule here is “dose up slowly” over a

period of days, while monitoring yourself.

Some blogs that are loosely related to this one

somewhat and/or may be useful to the reader in some

way are:

My son Willy's Original ADHD/bipolar! recovery story

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=2

Willy's Three Year ADHD/Bipolar Recovery Story

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=235

Willy's Baggie Ingredient List

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=64

A more detailed explanation of Willy's baggie

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=77

An Introduction To Alternative Medicine For

Psychiatric Conditions

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=71

The possible implications of broad based nutrition

taken all at once

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=107

Autism and Probiotics Proven to Be Linked!!

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=29

Probiotics and Their Effect on All Mental Illness

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=31

Natural Treatment of Depression and Willy's Baggie

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=68

Depression and Bipolar Disorder - Cured At Last!

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=255

One of Willy's " baggies " of supplements... Wow!

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=23

Baggie number two kicked in.... Wow again!

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=25

An Anecdotal Case; Depression Resolved in One Day

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=243

Adelle ; a true pioneer

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=262

Doctors Helped Cause Willy's Sickness; A Picture When

He Was Not Well

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=226

A picture of Willy; and some on the " food allergy

puzzle "

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=161

A little bit regarding the commonality of psychiatric

illnesses

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=115

Lessons I Taught Willy #1; Self-Empowerment

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=178

Lessons I Taught Willy #2; Don't Trust The Doctors Or

The Drug Companies, and Why

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=189

Lessons I Taught Willy #3; How To Cure Yourself of

ADHD or Bipolar Disorder; " The Big Picture "

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=190

Lessons I Taught Willy #4; Can You Use Just Food And

Not Supplements To Get Well?

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=204

Introducing the Concept of a " Healing House "

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=252

An egroup post on using lithium vs. raising

acetylcholine

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=301

Taurine and other inhibitory nutrients

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=302

Two egroup posts on inhibitory nutrients written in

2003

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=260

GABA vs. Glutamine

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=304

An egroup post I wrote in 2005 on sleep

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=251

My Bipolar Recovery Story as of June 2004

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=72

Bentonite, Depression, and How The Gut May Work

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=26

Bentonite, vitamin C, and yeast die off

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=16

An old speech draft on bipolar; still a worthy read

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=7

FDA Trying To Control All Nutritional Supplements By

Labeling Them " Drugs "

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=220

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Darman <allen_dar@...> wrote:

Introduction

The following material talks about the heart of the

" neurotransmitter precursor group of nutrients " in

Willy's baggie; as well as defines their cost per

baggie.

The nutrients discussed below, when taken with some

necessary vitamin and mineral cofactors, can broadly

increase one's neurotransmitter levels " across the

board " ...to include increasing serotonin, dopamine,

norepinephrine, and virtually ALL the rest.

I admittedly upgraded the material below after an

earlier version of it was posted in a egroup

called Safeharbor2, as I saw a use for it in many

places on the Internet.

Lastly, there is a large links section to other blogs

on my 360 site at the end of this one. These

blogs are either somewhat related to this one, or I

felt that they may be useful to the reader in some way

(and thus I made it easy for these blogs to be found).

Darman

Dear group:

The cost of supplementation has been brought up in

here, and I am glad that it has.

This cost issue is an issue that is very germane for

many, to also include myself (as there are times that

I have to skip the supplementation that I sure would

like to be taking, simply due to the fact that I

cannot afford such).

What good it is if adequate supplementation to

overcome a condition such as bipolar disorder is

simply too costly for most people, as seems to be the

case here? I am afraid that I just don't know the

answer to this question.

The " system " will often pay for various medications to

treat bipolar disorder, but it won't pay hardly a dime

for nutritional supplements in order to treat the

same.

This situation certainly suggests the need for " system

change " , but how and/or when this is ever going to

happen is anybody's guess... that's for sure. As much

as Big Pharma seems to be behind the scenes bribing

our lawmakers and perhaps some FDA officials as well,

I don't think that the system is going to change any

time soon.

The following material discusses " the neurotransmitter

precursor group of nutrients " in my son Willy's

baggie; as well as their cost. These neurotransmitter

precursors (precursors are " nutrient building blocks " )

are represented by the various amino acids, carnitine,

and phosphatidyl choline in Willy's baggie.

(Admittedly, these nutrients also need various

vitamins and minerals in which to work. However, the

cost of these vitamin and mineral cofactors is not

discussed herein, nor are they specified... as there

are many different varieties thereof.)

The free form amino acids listed below (as per

" Willy's baggie " ), along with phosphatidyl choline and

carnitine and broad based vitamin and mineral support,

increase the level of every single one of the hundred

or so neurotransmitters that are scientifically known

at this time. These nutritional supplements increase

serotonin, they increase dopamine, they increase

norepinephrine, and they increase virtually ALL the

rest of one's neurotransmitter levels as well. And

these supplements do so in a fairly balanced fashion

(in regard to excitation vs. inhibition); and in a

fashion that is rather readily adjustable, should any

minor problems arise.

As costly as the entirety of supplements in my son

Willy's baggie may be, the free form amino acid,

carnitine, and phosphatidyl choline component of

" Willy's baggie " is not as much as it might seem.

What follows is the list of the free form amino acid,

carnitine, and phosphatidyl choline component " Willy's

baggie " , as reflected on

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=64.

After each item listed is the price per capsule, and

the price per baggie of each item shown.

Note: I am not using the least expensive sources that

I can find in regard to the price breakdown shown

below, but I am using sources that I consider to be

" decent " in both price and quality. And in the case of

the amino acids blends named that I get from

www.jomarlabs.com, I am not aware of any equivalent

source. (I should mention that I receive no salary or

commission from Jomar Labs, nor am I compensated by

them in any other way whatsoever. This same goes for

www.iherb.com, the other supplement source that is

mentioned below.)

Willy’s Baggie Ingredient List; its amino acid,

carnitine, and phosphatidyl component ONLY:

1. Fifteen Pure Form 21 capsules, 500 mg. ea., source

www.jomarlabs.com

One bottle of 500 capsules costs $38.60, or $.077 ea.,

or $1.16 per fifteen capsules in one baggie.

2. Five to Seven WAC capsules, 450 mg. ea., source

www.jomarlabs.com

One bottle of 505 capsules costs $28.30, or $.056 ea.,

or $.39 per seven capsules in one baggie.

[Note: WAC blend is an excitatory blend of amino acids

for most people. The balance (excitation vs.

inhibition) in the nutrients listed here can be

modified by increasing or decreasing the amount of WAC

blend, while leaving the Pure Form 21 blend the same.

I aimed for balance in mixing all of the amino acids

reflected here. I did this by mixing excitatory and

inhibitory nutrients in the amounts that are shown.

These amounts have worked consistently well for both

my son and I. However, some persons may need to make

adjustments to what we are doing, such that the amino

acids taken are not too excitatory or inhibitory for

them. One good way to do this is simply to adjust the

WAC amount, while leaving the other amino acid amounts

alone. There are other ways to do this as well. And

the good news here is that if adjustments are

necessary, all one has to get is " somewhere in the

ballpark " , as the body and brain are both quite

capable of making substantial adjustments in which to

achieve balance.]

3. One or sometimes Two Taurine capsules, 620 mg. ea.,

source www.jomarlabs.com

One bottle of 242 capsules costs $13.20, or $.055 ea.,

or $ .05 per one capsule in one baggie.

[Taurine is an inhibitory amino acid, and a fairly

powerful one.]

4. Three Glutathione formula blend capsules, source

www.jomarlabs.com

One bottle of 300 capsules costs $18.50, or .062 ea.,

or $.18 per three capsules in one baggie.

5. Two Tryptophan capsules, 500 mg. ea., source

www.iherb.com

One bottle of " Doctor's Best " tryptophan, 90 capsules,

costs $16.38, or .182 per capsule, or $.36 per two

capsules in one baggie.

[Tryptophan is inhibitory for some persons, and

excitatory for others. In regard to myself, tryptophan

is inhibitory; in regard to my son Willy, it is

excitatory, what is sometimes called a " paradoxical

reaction " . Despite our differences in this regard,

Willy and I both respond very well to the overall

amino acid formula listed here, and neither one of us

sees a reason to change.]

6. One or sometimes Two L-Carnitine capsule, 600 mg.

ea., source www.jomarlabs.com

One bottle of 90 capsules costs $32.40, or $.36 ea.,

or $.36 per one capsule in each baggie.

7. Two or three capsules of Phosphatidyl Choline (from

www.iherb.com, as per

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1 & pid=2649)

One bottle of 90 softgels costs $10.17, or $.113 ea.,

or $.34 per three capsules in one baggie.

[Phosphatidyl choline and carnitine seem to increase

the level of acetylcholine in the brain. Doing so is

inhibitory; almost like the effect of lithium, but

without any adverse effects whatsoever. Both Willy and

I have responded VERY positively to these two

supplements, and they help us a great deal.]

********************************************************************************\

*************************

The total cost of the amino acid, carnitine, and

phosphatidyl choline portion of the baggie of

supplements that Willy and I take is $2.84 per baggie,

excluding any freight charges. This cost translates to

$85.20 per month, assuming one takes a baggie a day

for a period of thirty days.

********************************************************************************\

*************************

The total initial outlay for one bottle each of the

supplements listed above is $157.55, not including any

taxes (if applicable) or freight. This initial outlay

does not change the cost per month of supplementation,

as this was costed on a " per capsules and softgels

actually being used " basis. Some of these initial

bottles will have product left over at the end of the

first month, that's all... such that the second

month's purchases will be considerably less than the

first.

My son Willy only takes a baggie every other day, due

to the costs involved. This cuts his monthly outlay

for the amino acid, carnitine, and phosphatidyl

choline portion of his baggie in half, to only $42.60.

Myself, I take a baggie every single day whenever I

can afford such, as this nutrient formula has been so

incredibly helpful to me.

Although the cost of $2.84 for the free form amino

acid, carnitine, and phosphatidyl choline component of

Willy's baggie may seem high to some, to both Willy

and I, this is a cost that we are glad to pay. We both

" feel " a substantial health benefit from these

supplemental nutrients... and this is no " placebo

affect " , that is for sure.

Quite obviously, the free form amino acid, carnitine,

and phosphatidyl choline component in " Willy's baggie "

(as reflected in the above) does NOT represent a

proper nutrient formula all on its own. Free form

amino acids need vitamins and minerals in which to

work properly, as nutrients act in synergy with one

another. It is best not to take nutrients in

isolation; it is much better to take the entire

nutrient range " all at once " , as far as healing goes.

(I have to credit Adelle here, as she clearly

stated this idea almost forty years ago.)

Incidentally, I have found from experience that

besides needing vitamins and minerals as necessary

nutrient cofactors, free form amino acids also seem to

work much better when combined with the super-green

component (chlorella, spirulina, and super blue-green

algae) of " Willy's baggie " as well. Willy's experience

with mixing super-greens and free form amino acids

together for " the greater benefit of both " strongly

concurs with mine. (He knows that when he leaves the

super-green portion out of his baggie, it does not

help him nearly as much as it should.)

Conclusion

This blog answers the question of " what would it cost

to add a free form amino acid, carnitine, and

phosphatidyl choline component to any pre-existing

vitamin and mineral routine? " For $85.20 a month,

someone can add a total of 840 free form amino acid

capsules, 30 carnitine capsules, and 90 phosphatidyl

choline softgels to their monthly supplement routine.

Even these additional ingredients (without adding any

more) to a pre-existing broad based vitamin and

mineral supplement regime could make a substantial

positive difference for many persons with a unipolar

or bipolar diagnosis, or so I believe.

I sincerely hope that there is a class action lawsuit

someday against both the drug industry and the medical

profession as a whole.... for ignoring the obvious

(amino acids, other nutrients, etc.) in regard to

dealing with depression (and bipolar disorder, ADHD,

and so much else). It is absolutely ludicrous that

conventional medicine continues to promote

antidepressant drugs in an attempt to treat

neurotransmitter deficiencies, when essential

nutrients can so readily do the same thing.

I cannot believe how much fourteen grams (28 capsules)

of adequately balanced free form amino acids, along

with carnitine, phosphatidyl choline, vitamins,

minerals, super-greens, and the other various

ingredients in " Willy's baggie " , has helped both my

son and I. And the beauty of what we are doing, is how

simple it is... we just take " our baggies " , as well as

deal with our hidden food allergies and problematic

" gut issues " in an adequate fashion. How " simple " can

recovery from ADHD, bipolar disorder, weak and sickly

health (Willy recovered from sickly childhood health),

depression, and perhaps so much else, be?

Unfortunately, " simple " for Willy and I, although

incredibly easy to implement, is admittedly somewhat

expensive.

Darman

Cautionary notes:

I did include carnitine and phosphatidyl choline in

with the costing of the amino acids in Willy's baggie,

as I do not recommend taking one without the other, as

per the note on the blog titled " Willy's Baggie

Ingredient List " at

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=64

as follows:

Cautionary note 1: I do NOT recommend taking free from

amino acids as suggested above without also taking

carnitine and phosphatidyl choline in order to cover

acetylcholine, the key missing neurotransmitter that

amino acids don’t make. In my opinion, when one acts

to broadly increase neurotransmitters by taking broad

based amino acids, they should perhaps always be

adding carnitine and phosphatidyl choline to their

supplement routine as well.

I also ALWAYS recommend dosing up slowly with amino

acids, as per a second note on the blog titled

" Willy's Baggie Ingredient List " as follows:

Cautionary note 2: Free form amino acids can affect

people differently. Some people may not be able to

take the above amino acid prescription without it “not

feeling quite right for them”. One can easily find

this out by oneself at home, by taking free form amino

acids and then “making adjustments accordingly”. The

general safety rule here is “dose up slowly” over a

period of days, while monitoring yourself.

Some blogs that are loosely related to this one

somewhat and/or may be useful to the reader in some

way are:

My son Willy's Original ADHD/bipolar! recovery story

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=2

Willy's Three Year ADHD/Bipolar Recovery Story

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=235

Willy's Baggie Ingredient List

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=64

A more detailed explanation of Willy's baggie

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=77

An Introduction To Alternative Medicine For

Psychiatric Conditions

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=71

The possible implications of broad based nutrition

taken all at once

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=107

Autism and Probiotics Proven to Be Linked!!

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=29

Probiotics and Their Effect on All Mental Illness

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=31

Natural Treatment of Depression and Willy's Baggie

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=68

Depression and Bipolar Disorder - Cured At Last!

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=255

One of Willy's " baggies " of supplements... Wow!

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=23

Baggie number two kicked in.... Wow again!

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=25

An Anecdotal Case; Depression Resolved in One Day

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=243

Adelle ; a true pioneer

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=262

Doctors Helped Cause Willy's Sickness; A Picture When

He Was Not Well

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=226

A picture of Willy; and some on the " food allergy

puzzle "

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=161

A little bit regarding the commonality of psychiatric

illnesses

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=115

Lessons I Taught Willy #1; Self-Empowerment

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=178

Lessons I Taught Willy #2; Don't Trust The Doctors Or

The Drug Companies, and Why

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=189

Lessons I Taught Willy #3; How To Cure Yourself of

ADHD or Bipolar Disorder; " The Big Picture "

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=190

Lessons I Taught Willy #4; Can You Use Just Food And

Not Supplements To Get Well?

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=204

Introducing the Concept of a " Healing House "

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=252

An egroup post on using lithium vs. raising

acetylcholine

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=301

Taurine and other inhibitory nutrients

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=302

Two egroup posts on inhibitory nutrients written in

2003

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=260

GABA vs. Glutamine

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=304

An egroup post I wrote in 2005 on sleep

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=251

My Bipolar Recovery Story as of June 2004

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=72

Bentonite, Depression, and How The Gut May Work

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=26

Bentonite, vitamin C, and yeast die off

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=16

An old speech draft on bipolar; still a worthy read

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=7

FDA Trying To Control All Nutritional Supplements By

Labeling Them " Drugs "

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=220

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