Candida test to do at home

[Guest guest]

Have you heard of this? What do you think?

" Not sure if you have Candidiasis - the condition caused by an

overgrowth of candida? Take the simple, free candida test to find out

NOW!

First thing in the morning, before you put ANYTHING in your mouth,

fill a clear glass with room temperature bottled water. Try not to

use tap water to eliminate the possibility of mineral and chemical

contamination.

Work up a bit of saliva, then spit it into the glass of water. Check

the water every 15 minutes or so for up to one hour.

If you have candidiasis, you will see strings (like legs) traveling

down into the water from the saliva floating on the top, or " cloudy "

saliva will sink to the bottom of the glass, or cloudy specks will

seem to be suspended in the water.

If there are no strings and the saliva is still floating after at

least one hour, you probably have Candida under control.

Congratulations. "

[Guest guest]

--- Renate <haecklers@...> wrote:

> Have you heard of this? What do you think?

> " First thing in the morning, before you put ANYTHING in your mouth,

> fill a clear glass with room temperature bottled water. Try not to

> use tap water to eliminate the possibility of mineral and chemical

> contamination. Work up a bit of saliva, then spit it into the glass

> of water. Check the water every 15 minutes or so for up to one hour.

> If you have candidiasis, you will see strings (like legs) traveling

> down into the water from the saliva floating on the top, or " cloudy "

> saliva will sink to the bottom of the glass, or cloudy specks will

> seem to be suspended in the water. If there are no strings and the

> saliva is still floating after at least one hour, you probably have

> Candida under control. "

Renate, I remember reading about this test a couple of years ago. I

could not find any scientific support for it. First of all, I'm not

convinced that overgrowth of candida albicans is that common. If you

did have a serious overgrowth, I would expect to see thrush and other

symptoms. I think dysbiosis is fairly common, but I doubt that c.

albicans is that prevalent most of the time. I'm not sure what this

test is telling us, but I doubt that it has anything to do with an

overgrowth of c. albicans. My guess is that there are probably a

variety of factors related to both the saliva and the water used that

would affect whether the saliva would float or sink.

[Guest guest]

I find it interesting that you don't think many people have an

overgrowth of C. Albicans. I personally think just the opposite

considering the following things:

1. Most of us have taken large doses of antibiotics sometime in the

past which kills " all " bacteria in the gut not just the bad stuff.

2. Due to our SAD we have lost the information of eating fermented

foods which is in most cultures but ours does not do that (except those of

us who know better of course) .

Traditional cultures ate quite a few cultured/fermented foods on a regular

basis and we Americans eat none (again not speaking about people who know

better!) much less any on an ongoing basis. When either or both of the

above two items occur the bad bacteria i.e. C. Albicans takes over the flora

in the gut. It could be seen as thrush but there are so many other ways it

manifests itself. We all have it naturally occurring in our guts and it is

only when we don't keep our good bacteria alive and well does it take over

but again who in our society (except us, LOL) makes an effort to continue to

keep the good flora strong in our guts? With the SAD and highly processed

food it obviously does not add anything to help in this regard. Yes, there

are a " couple " yogurts on the market that have some stuff in it but if you

read the label most of them don't.

I don't know about the Saliva test so I can't comment on that. I would

recommend reading some books on C. Albicans. I have read several because my

ex husband years ago lived on antibiotics for sinus and totally destroyed

his immune system. I told him we were going to do it my way and took him

off all his drugs and started working on rebuilding his immune system. He

was checked for C.Albicans by a doctor and did have it as well as the

Epstein Barr virus which usually follows with C.Albicans take over. It took

us a year of diet change, colonics, massive food supplementation which

included billions and billions of good bacteria. Within a year he was able

to get out of bed for more than 4 hours at a time and he stopped getting

sick at the drop of a hat. This was years ago and there is so much

information on the market now but I am a firm believer that most people have

an oversupply of C. Albicans, not the reverse. Many, many symptoms we have

are due to this yeast. More women obviously have the problem than men

because of our makeup and the fact that most women take birth control pills

which directly kills the good stuff as well.

Just my opinion.

Allyn

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:33 AM

Subject: Re: Candida test to do at home

--- Renate <haecklers@...> wrote:

> Have you heard of this? What do you think?

> " First thing in the morning, before you put ANYTHING in your mouth,

> fill a clear glass with room temperature bottled water. Try not to

> use tap water to eliminate the possibility of mineral and chemical

> contamination. Work up a bit of saliva, then spit it into the glass

> of water. Check the water every 15 minutes or so for up to one hour.

> If you have candidiasis, you will see strings (like legs) traveling

> down into the water from the saliva floating on the top, or " cloudy "

> saliva will sink to the bottom of the glass, or cloudy specks will

> seem to be suspended in the water. If there are no strings and the

> saliva is still floating after at least one hour, you probably have

> Candida under control. "

Renate, I remember reading about this test a couple of years ago. I

could not find any scientific support for it. First of all, I'm not

convinced that overgrowth of candida albicans is that common. If you

did have a serious overgrowth, I would expect to see thrush and other

symptoms. I think dysbiosis is fairly common, but I doubt that c.

albicans is that prevalent most of the time. I'm not sure what this

test is telling us, but I doubt that it has anything to do with an

overgrowth of c. albicans. My guess is that there are probably a

variety of factors related to both the saliva and the water used that

would affect whether the saliva would float or sink.

[Guest guest]

--- ALLYN FERRIS <aferris7272@...> wrote:

> I find it interesting that you don't think many people have an

> overgrowth of C. Albicans. I personally think just the opposite

> considering the following things:

>

> 1. Most of us have taken large doses of antibiotics sometime in the

> past which kills " all " bacteria in the gut not just the bad stuff.

>

> 2. Due to our SAD we have lost the information of eating fermented

> foods which is in most cultures but ours does not do that (except

> those of us who know better of course).

Allyn,

I believe that a variety of digestive problems, including dysbiosis

are major factors in driving much illness in our modern society. I'm

just not convinced that candida albicans is the dominant problem even

with dysbiosis. From what I have read, not all antibiotics are likely

to kill digestive bacteria, some more than others. I do suspect that

over-use of antibiotics coupled with poor diet is likely to cause

dysbiosis, but not necessarily c. albicans overgrowth. How is c.

albican overgrowth verified? Is found it in blood samples? Does it

predominate the flora in stool samples? Where is the scientific

evidence for this?

Thrush would certainly be a sign of c. albicans overgrowth, but thrush

is not that common.

I suspect there are likely many contributing causes to digestive

problems. Abuse of antibiotics, NSAIDs, and antacids, along with

vaccines and poor diet are probably some of the most common factors.

I do agree that it's a good idea to regularly consume probiotic foods

and/or beverages. Getting good dietary nutrition including probiotics

and staying away from all medications and vaccines should also be very

helpful in restoring or maintaining proper digestive function.

[Guest guest]

they did stool and blood work on the x husband but I don't remember

which

one they used to determine it, possibly both.

Allyn

Sent from mobile phone

On Feb 27, 2008, at 1:49 PM, " " <oz4caster@...> wrote:

> --- ALLYN FERRIS <aferris7272@...> wrote:

> > I find it interesting that you don't think many people have an

> > overgrowth of C. Albicans. I personally think just the opposite

> > considering the following things:

> >

> > 1. Most of us have taken large doses of antibiotics sometime in the

> > past which kills " all " bacteria in the gut not just the bad stuff.

> >

> > 2. Due to our SAD we have lost the information of eating fermented

> > foods which is in most cultures but ours does not do that (except

> > those of us who know better of course).

>

> Allyn,

>

> I believe that a variety of digestive problems, including dysbiosis

> are major factors in driving much illness in our modern society. I'm

> just not convinced that candida albicans is the dominant problem even

> with dysbiosis. From what I have read, not all antibiotics are likely

> to kill digestive bacteria, some more than others. I do suspect that

> over-use of antibiotics coupled with poor diet is likely to cause

> dysbiosis, but not necessarily c. albicans overgrowth. How is c.

> albican overgrowth verified? Is found it in blood samples? Does it

> predominate the flora in stool samples? Where is the scientific

> evidence for this?

>

> Thrush would certainly be a sign of c. albicans overgrowth, but thrush

> is not that common.

>

> I suspect there are likely many contributing causes to digestive

> problems. Abuse of antibiotics, NSAIDs, and antacids, along with

> vaccines and poor diet are probably some of the most common factors.

>

> I do agree that it's a good idea to regularly consume probiotic foods

> and/or beverages. Getting good dietary nutrition including probiotics

> and staying away from all medications and vaccines should also be very

> helpful in restoring or maintaining proper digestive function.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with Allyn on this one. I think most people are suffering

from a candida overgrowth than not. A candida overgrowth has been

linked to skin conditions such as rosacea, dandruff, and eczema. It

also is the cause for many people's digestive and gastrointestinal

problems. Also linked to chronic fatigue and adrenal exhaustion.

The reality is that most Americans are suffering from one or several

of the above named conditions. Regardless of whether candida is the

cause or not, almost all of the above conditions would be greatly

helped by supplementing with a good probiotic and following an anti-

fungul plan (there is a good one outlined in " The Fungus Link by

Dough Kaufman " . Basicly, his meal plan " starves " the little buggers.

In health,

Isabel De Los Rios

> > > I find it interesting that you don't think many people

have an

> > > overgrowth of C. Albicans. I personally think just the opposite

> > > considering the following things:

> > >

> > > 1. Most of us have taken large doses of antibiotics sometime in

the

> > > past which kills " all " bacteria in the gut not just the bad

stuff.

> > >

> > > 2. Due to our SAD we have lost the information of eating

fermented

> > > foods which is in most cultures but ours does not do that

(except

> > > those of us who know better of course).

> >

> > Allyn,

> >

> > I believe that a variety of digestive problems, including

dysbiosis

> > are major factors in driving much illness in our modern society.

I'm

> > just not convinced that candida albicans is the dominant problem

even

> > with dysbiosis. From what I have read, not all antibiotics are

likely

> > to kill digestive bacteria, some more than others. I do suspect

that

> > over-use of antibiotics coupled with poor diet is likely to cause

> > dysbiosis, but not necessarily c. albicans overgrowth. How is c.

> > albican overgrowth verified? Is found it in blood samples? Does

it

> > predominate the flora in stool samples? Where is the scientific

> > evidence for this?

> >

> > Thrush would certainly be a sign of c. albicans overgrowth, but

thrush

> > is not that common.

> >

> > I suspect there are likely many contributing causes to digestive

> > problems. Abuse of antibiotics, NSAIDs, and antacids, along with

> > vaccines and poor diet are probably some of the most common

factors.

> >

> > I do agree that it's a good idea to regularly consume probiotic

foods

> > and/or beverages. Getting good dietary nutrition including

probiotics

> > and staying away from all medications and vaccines should also be

very

> > helpful in restoring or maintaining proper digestive function.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- ALLYN FERRIS <aferris7272@...> wrote:

> they did stool and blood work on the x husband but I don't remember

> which one they used to determine it, possibly both.

Allyn, here's a pertinent discussion:

" Detection of Candida Albicans " by Biamonte, C.C.N.

http://www.celiac.com/articles/1020/1/Detection-of-Candida-Albicans-by--B\

iamonte-CCN/Page1.html

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To make matters even more interesting, other inhabitants of the

gastrointestinal tract can cause a disruption of the ecology of the

large bowel, allowing an overgrowth of C. Albicans. These pathogens

also produce gastrointestinal distress and allergic reactions similar

to Candida. These microbes or pathogens can lead to an incorrect

diagnosis of Candida Albicans, if the doctor is using questionnaires

or considering symptoms alone! A partial listing of pathogens would

include Aeromas and Plasiomonas, Campylobacter je juni, Citrobacter

species, Clostridium difficile, Enterobacter species, Mucoid E. coli

and Hemolytic E. Coli, Klebsiella, Pseudomonas and Yersinia

Enterocolitica.(3) All can produce similar symptoms to that of a

patient with true over-colonization of Candida Albicans. All can

produce similar symptoms to that of a patient with true

over-colonization of Candida Albicans. So while the research states

Candida can occur both vaginally and in the large bowel, then allowing

the broad-spectrum of symptoms we hear about to occur, it also needs

to be clarified when another possible microbe is causing the

Candida-like symptom.

You, the reader, must be careful in allowing yourself and your doctor

to begin a Candida regimen before it is documented that you have C.

Albicans and not some other pathogen. Any disturbance in your

intestinal flora can allow the above mentioned pathogens to begin

their dirty work. C. Albicans is not the only opportunist who is

waiting for you to use broad spectrum antibiotics. Dont go by symptoms

alone!

Diagnostic Tools

Unfortunately, most tests being used by well-meaning practitioners

have drawbacks and require more interpretation than might be currently

realized. stool cultures and rectal mucus swabs have been found of no

diagnostic value.(4) That is a rather strong statement bound to offend

many people. However, consider these facts. " C. Albicans organisms do

not distribute homogeneously throughout the G.I. tract, rather they

are found on plaques in the mucosal surfaces and streak scattered

throughout the fecal material. " In application, this datum means

consistent contact with the over-colonization of C. Albicans by fecal

matter is not guaranteed due to the nature of growth of C. Albicans.

It does not evenly spread itself throughout the bowel. This makes it a

matter of chance whether the fecal matter or rectal swab will contact

an area which contains C. Albicans. It is true that C. Albicans

inhabits the mucosal surface, but in plaques. It is a matter of

judgement by the practitioner whether the fecal or rectal swab reading

is indicative of over-colonization, since everyone does have some

Candida Albicans in their bowel. Good practitioners knowing this will

want several consecutive negative readings before pronouncing the

patient clear of Candida. Also, the amount that qualifies as a true

overgrowth in the stool can be a controversy. The true value of a

stool culture is in determining the amounts of friendly bacteria

relative to unfriendly bacteria, and to discover the presence of

harmful bacteria which can weaken the friendly flora, allowing yeast

to grow and live.

=======================================

Clostridium difficile also appears to be associated with ulcerative

colitis (UC), along with peptostreptococcus:

" Gut microbiota and ulcerative colitis "

http://www.gutflora.org/hs-news.php?id=158

=======================================

It is fascinating that the HITChip analysis of the UC patients gut

microbiota showed an almost exclusive presence of either C. difficile

or members of the Peptostreptococcus genus.

=======================================

Another study found that gut flora in five people sampled over a

period of four years were remarkably stable:

" Stability of the human gut microbiota "

http://www.gutflora.org/hs-news.php?id=156

=======================================

To shed some more light on this problem and to try to reveal the

influence of genotype, environment and stochastic factors on the gut

microbiota, a series of experiments that employed another recently

developed phylogentic microarray platform (the HITChip), was performed

at Wageningen University. M. Rajili & #263;-Stojanovi & #263; and colleagues have

assessed the gut microbiota profiles of five individuals over a time

span of four years. Despite the four years, during which these

individuals lived an active life which included traveling overseas,

antibiotic therapies, pregnancies and changing eating habits, the

microbiota preserved its unique composition which could be easily

distinct from the gut microbiota of other subjects. This remarkable

finding shows that the microbiota has a potential to preserve its

unique composition regardless the strong environmental triggers.

Nevertheless, environmental parameters do play an active role in

shaping the intestinal microbiota, which is supported by the fact that

the individual gut microbiota is more alike when samples are taken in

shorter time intervals.

=======================================

So, my feeling is that there is still a lot to learn about how gut

flora evolve and influence health. I think the candida albicans fad

is a gross over-simplification. Some people even attribute most of

the alleged candida symptoms to food chemical intolerances:

http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/

(see the symptom list near the bottom of the page)

I suspect that the truth lies somewhere in between

[Guest guest]

> So, my feeling is that there is still a lot to learn about how gut

> flora evolve and influence health. I think the candida albicans fad

> is a gross over-simplification. Some people even attribute most of

> the alleged candida symptoms to food chemical intolerances:

> http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/

> (see the symptom list near the bottom of the page)

>

> I suspect that the truth lies somewhere in between

>

>

>

On a similar note...I thought I might have had candida problems due to

mercury issues, and my symptoms certainly matched to some extent...so

last summer I cut out all grains, starches, sugars, completely, for

probably about 2 months, and ate probably at least 6 Tablespoons of EV

coconut oil a day...along with some other stuff that should have taken

care of any yeast such as lots of homemade kim-chi.

Needless to say my symptoms felt just the same after those two months

than it does if I am eating my normal diet which includes fermented

grains and raw honey in moderate amounts.

I actually feel more balanced with grains in my diet, as long as they

are sprouted or soured, and eaten with large amounts of butter/coconut

oil.

-

[Guest guest]

Thrush can live many places other than the gut. It is very common in

nursing mothers, because the milk is great food for the yeast. It sets

up house in the breast and doesn't go away, since it has a food supply.

Allyn mentioned skin; I know quite a few people with mouth thrush and

chronic sinus problems. Women with perfectly balanced vaginal flora can

still harbor breast thrush; I would extrapolate that those without a

candida gut can still have fungal dandruff.

Desh

[Guest guest]

Did you take anything to " kill " the yeast. I know vco has it in it but

possibly not in the amounts necessary to kill enough of it if it is really

rampant. I don't think most people understand how hard it is to get rid of

it once it has taken over. We used caprylic acid and used alot of it and I

know when my husband had yeast die off because my bed sheets and mattress

cover just stunk from it coming out of his poors. He couldn't smell it but

everyone else could. I think I even ended up throwing the sheets away!

Even after that and taking many pills (I didn't know about fermented foods

like I do today) with billions and billions of probiotics, he still had to

stay away from any starches. When he didn't he got terrible rashes under his

arms and on his feet. From my research, again this was 15 or more years ago,

it can be an ongoing struggle and usually 2 months is not enough time to

kill the yeast and rebuild good flora. At least it has not been from my

experience,

Allyn

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of gdawson6

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:32 AM

Subject: Re: Candida test to do at home

>

On a similar note...I thought I might have had candida problems due to

mercury issues, and my symptoms certainly matched to some extent...so

last summer I cut out all grains, starches, sugars, completely, for

probably about 2 months, and ate probably at least 6 Tablespoons of EV

coconut oil a day...along with some other stuff that should have taken

care of any yeast such as lots of homemade kim-chi.

Needless to say my symptoms felt just the same after those two months

than it does if I am eating my normal diet which includes fermented

grains and raw honey in moderate amounts.

I actually feel more balanced with grains in my diet, as long as they

are sprouted or soured, and eaten with large amounts of butter/coconut

oil.

-

[Guest guest]

I did take stuff to kill the yeast...including plenty of raw garlic,

oregano oil, olive leaf extract...and I ate a lot of very strong home

made kim-chi with nearly every meal. I was also taking S. Boulardii.

I said at least 6 Tablespoons of coconut oil. Many days it would have

been more than 8 tablespoons.

This was after already having eating NT for two years without

deviating and eating live-cultured foods/drinks daily. I wanted to

know if yeast was my problem and with the strict regimen I had I

certainly proved it to myself that it wasn't, especially because I

didn't have any significant die-off from all the above supplements. I

also haven't experienced any colds or infections since I started

eating NT over 3 years ago.

-

>

> Did you take anything to " kill " the yeast. I know vco has it in it but

> possibly not in the amounts necessary to kill enough of it if it is

really

> rampant. I don't think most people understand how hard it is to get

rid of

> it once it has taken over. We used caprylic acid and used alot of

it and I

> know when my husband had yeast die off because my bed sheets and

mattress

> cover just stunk from it coming out of his poors. He couldn't smell

it but

> everyone else could. I think I even ended up throwing the sheets away!

> Even after that and taking many pills (I didn't know about fermented

foods

> like I do today) with billions and billions of probiotics, he still

had to

> stay away from any starches. When he didn't he got terrible rashes

under his

> arms and on his feet. From my research, again this was 15 or more

years ago,

> it can be an ongoing struggle and usually 2 months is not enough time to

> kill the yeast and rebuild good flora. At least it has not been from my

> experience,

> Allyn

>

> _____

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of gdawson6

> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:32 AM

>

> Subject: Re: Candida test to do at home

>

>

>

>

> >

>

> On a similar note...I thought I might have had candida problems due to

> mercury issues, and my symptoms certainly matched to some extent...so

> last summer I cut out all grains, starches, sugars, completely, for

> probably about 2 months, and ate probably at least 6 Tablespoons of EV

> coconut oil a day...along with some other stuff that should have taken

> care of any yeast such as lots of homemade kim-chi.

>

> Needless to say my symptoms felt just the same after those two months

> than it does if I am eating my normal diet which includes fermented

> grains and raw honey in moderate amounts.

>

> I actually feel more balanced with grains in my diet, as long as they

> are sprouted or soured, and eaten with large amounts of butter/coconut

> oil.

>

> -

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Garlic, etc. is also loaded with caprylic acid so you probably got rid of

it. You were also eating NT which I didn't even know about back then. He

was on a low carb diet when I could monitor him but he would drink lots of

beer which did not help his situation. He would probably be considered a

very severe case plus he did not follow all the rules so it was harder to

get rid of it. I think he even now still has it from things the kids say

about him. I personally have not talked with him in numerous years.

Allyn

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of gdawson6

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:34 PM

Subject: Re: Candida test to do at home

I did take stuff to kill the yeast...including plenty of raw garlic,

oregano oil, olive leaf extract...and I ate a lot of very strong home

made kim-chi with nearly every meal. I was also taking S. Boulardii.

I said at least 6 Tablespoons of coconut oil. Many days it would have

been more than 8 tablespoons.

This was after already having eating NT for two years without

deviating and eating live-cultured foods/drinks daily. I wanted to

know if yeast was my problem and with the strict regimen I had I

certainly proved it to myself that it wasn't, especially because I

didn't have any significant die-off from all the above supplements. I

also haven't experienced any colds or infections since I started

eating NT over 3 years ago.

-

>

> Did you take anything to " kill " the yeast. I know vco has it in it but

> possibly not in the amounts necessary to kill enough of it if it is

really

> rampant. I don't think most people understand how hard it is to get

rid of

> it once it has taken over. We used caprylic acid and used alot of

it and I

> know when my husband had yeast die off because my bed sheets and

mattress

> cover just stunk from it coming out of his poors. He couldn't smell

it but

> everyone else could. I think I even ended up throwing the sheets away!

> Even after that and taking many pills (I didn't know about fermented

foods

> like I do today) with billions and billions of probiotics, he still

had to

> stay away from any starches. When he didn't he got terrible rashes

under his

> arms and on his feet. From my research, again this was 15 or more

years ago,

> it can be an ongoing struggle and usually 2 months is not enough time to

> kill the yeast and rebuild good flora. At least it has not been from my

> experience,

> Allyn

>

> _____

>

> From:

<mailto: %40>

> [mailto:

<mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of gdawson6

> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:32 AM

>

<mailto: %40>

> Subject: Re: Candida test to do at home

>

>

>

>

> >

>

> On a similar note...I thought I might have had candida problems due to

> mercury issues, and my symptoms certainly matched to some extent...so

> last summer I cut out all grains, starches, sugars, completely, for

> probably about 2 months, and ate probably at least 6 Tablespoons of EV

> coconut oil a day...along with some other stuff that should have taken

> care of any yeast such as lots of homemade kim-chi.

>

> Needless to say my symptoms felt just the same after those two months

> than it does if I am eating my normal diet which includes fermented

> grains and raw honey in moderate amounts.

>

> I actually feel more balanced with grains in my diet, as long as they

> are sprouted or soured, and eaten with large amounts of butter/coconut

> oil.

>

> -

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- <gdawson6@...> wrote:

> On a similar note...I thought I might have had candida problems due

> to mercury issues, and my symptoms certainly matched to some

> extent...so last summer I cut out all grains, starches, sugars,

> completely, for probably about 2 months, and ate probably at least 6

> Tablespoons of EV coconut oil a day...along with some other stuff

> that should have taken care of any yeast such as lots of homemade

> kim-chi.

>

> Needless to say my symptoms felt just the same after those two

> months than it does if I am eating my normal diet which includes

> fermented grains and raw honey in moderate amounts.

>

> I actually feel more balanced with grains in my diet, as long as

> they are sprouted or soured, and eaten with large amounts of

> butter/coconut oil.

, have you every tried the FAILSAFE elimination diet to see if

your symptoms go away?

http://www.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/content/elimination-diet.aspx