Re: Concentrace trace minerals

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On 3/7/08, gdawson6 <gdawson6@...> wrote:

> I just started taking Concentrace which is from the Great Salt Lake,

> but failed to search for fluoride content. I checked today and one

> place said it contained 60-70ppm...and even if your just taking 1/2

> teaspoon like it reccomends it still seems like it can be way too

> much...especially if its ionic.

I think it has arsenic and some other nasty stuff in it, but I

generally have gotten energy boosts from these types of supplements.

Not sure if it should be avoided or not, but if you do take anything

with F, it should be taken with lots of Ca, which seriously impairs

the absorption of F.

Chris

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> > I just started taking Concentrace which is from the Great Salt Lake,

> > but failed to search for fluoride content. I checked today and one

> > place said it contained 60-70ppm...and even if your just taking 1/2

> > teaspoon like it reccomends it still seems like it can be way too

> > much...especially if its ionic.

>

> I think it has arsenic and some other nasty stuff in it, but I

> generally have gotten energy boosts from these types of supplements.

> Not sure if it should be avoided or not, but if you do take anything

> with F, it should be taken with lots of Ca, which seriously impairs

> the absorption of F.

>

> Chris

I deleted my post because after doing the calculations the Fluoride

levels appeared less menacing. I got scared after seeing the ppm but I

don't think it was justified. If you used 1/2 teaspoon a day in a cup

of water, that cup of water would have ~0.65 ppm fluoride, and you

would get %67 DV of magnesium. There appears to be about the same ppm

fluoride and calcium average so I find it confusing that it would stay

in ionic form and not form calcium fluoride.

Not sure if I did the calculations right. After searching through the

analysis better the average ppm fluoride would be 62ppm (ranges from

nearly 0 to 200ppm) , and at a dose that is 1/2 teaspoon, there are 96

1/2 teaspoons to 1 cup of water...so I just divided the ppm by 96 to

get the ppm of 1/2 t diluted in one cup.

I wouldn't mind if someone else gave it a shot to find out the ppm if

you diluted it to a cup of water...if you put 1/2 teaspoon of it in

and it has 62ppm fluoride. Its been a while since chemistry

class...but I think my numbers work.

-

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So I bought some concentrace...and how do you guys take this stuff?

It's NASTY!!! LOL

Just wondering what your tips would be...

Leah

On 3/7/08, gdawson6 <gdawson6@...> wrote:

>

>> > I just started taking Concentrace which is from the Great Salt Lake,

>> > but failed to search for fluoride content. I checked today and one

>> > place said it contained 60-70ppm...and even if your just taking 1/2

>> > teaspoon like it reccomends it still seems like it can be way too

>> > much...especially if its ionic.

>>

>> I think it has arsenic and some other nasty stuff in it, but I

>> generally have gotten energy boosts from these types of supplements.

>> Not sure if it should be avoided or not, but if you do take anything

>> with F, it should be taken with lots of Ca, which seriously impairs

>> the absorption of F.

>>

>> Chris

>

> I deleted my post because after doing the calculations the Fluoride

> levels appeared less menacing. I got scared after seeing the ppm but I

> don't think it was justified. If you used 1/2 teaspoon a day in a cup

> of water, that cup of water would have ~0.65 ppm fluoride, and you

> would get %67 DV of magnesium. There appears to be about the same ppm

> fluoride and calcium average so I find it confusing that it would stay

> in ionic form and not form calcium fluoride.

>

> Not sure if I did the calculations right. After searching through the

> analysis better the average ppm fluoride would be 62ppm (ranges from

> nearly 0 to 200ppm) , and at a dose that is 1/2 teaspoon, there are 96

> 1/2 teaspoons to 1 cup of water...so I just divided the ppm by 96 to

> get the ppm of 1/2 t diluted in one cup.

>

> I wouldn't mind if someone else gave it a shot to find out the ppm if

> you diluted it to a cup of water...if you put 1/2 teaspoon of it in

> and it has 62ppm fluoride. Its been a while since chemistry

> class...but I think my numbers work.

>

> -

>

>

>

>

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On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:52 AM, gdawson6 <gdawson6@...> wrote:

>

> I just started taking Concentrace which is from the Great Salt Lake,

> but failed to search for fluoride content. I checked today and one

> place said it contained 60-70ppm...and even if your just taking 1/2

> teaspoon like it reccomends it still seems like it can be way too

> much...especially if its ionic.

But the other option, if not ionic, would be elemental fluorine which is

extremely poisonous and extremely rare...........so.........?

By FDA labeling standards, they have to list the highest amount ever tested,

thus, the 60-70ppm, but in talking with them and our ND, levels wildly

fluctuate depending on the time of year, etc., so the 60-70 is not going to

be consistent

>

> I was taking it to make my water more like mineral water as it has a

> lot of magnesium and such.

>

> Luckily the place I bought it from accepts unconditional returns and

> pays return postage...

>

> Just thought I would post this as barely any places list the fluoride

> content of concentrace, and figured some of you might be using it.

>

There's a wide range of naturally-occurring minerals that appear in

Concentrace which include:

Lithium, Boron, Carbonate, Calcium, Bromide, Fluoride, Silicon, Nitrogen,

Selenium, Phosphorus, Iodide, Chromium, Iron, Manganese, Titanium, Rubidium,

Cobalt, Copper, Antimony, Arsenic, Molybdenum, Strontium, Zinc, Nickel,

Tungsten, Germanium, Aluminium, Scandium, Tin, Lanthanum, Lead, Yttrium,

Barium, Silver, Cadmium, Uranium, Gallium, Zirconium, Vanadium, Beryllium,

Tellurium, Bismuth, Hafnium, Terbium, Europium, Gadolinium, Samarium,

Cerium, Cesium, Gold, Mercury, Dysprosium, Holmium, Lutetium, Thulium,

Erbium, Ytterbium, Neodymium, Niobium, Tantalum, Thorium, Thallium, Rhenium,

Indium, Palladium, Platinum. Plus other minerals naturally found in sea

water.

I've been using Concentrace for my Autistic son for years. His nutritional

blood levels, which included measuring normal and abnormal ranges of

minerals, have been excellent with his doctors reporting them to be

" abnormally normal " , given his autism. If you're concerned, how about

getting a nutritional blood profile so you have a foundation from which to

work your numbers?

Sharon

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Put it in milk, not water- if you need a large dose, spread it throughout

the day. Smoothies are another option. I also put minerals in food.

We do concentrace ionic minerals for our daughter with lead poisoning.

She hates the taste in water or clearer beverages, but will let me put

them in food or smoothies.

Desh

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I am not sure how to take it either. I initially bought it under the

idea that it would make my water absorb better in my body so I would

just put drops in whenever I took a drink, the serving size says 40

drops but then it started making me more thirsty.

someone gave me this explanation :Because the body likes to maintain a

certain concentration of electrolytes (e.g., calcium, magnesium,

sodium, potassium, chloride, phosphorous), an increase in electrolyte

intake will sometimes increase H2O requirements (to sufficiently

dilute the minerals throughout the body).

I don't know how I feel about Concentrace at this point, and then to

read it has flouride in it on top of everything. I have been taking it

for weeks now and haven't noticed anything different but then again I

hardly ever notice any differences when I take supplements.

> >> > I just started taking Concentrace which is from the Great Salt

Lake,

> >> > but failed to search for fluoride content. I checked today and one

> >> > place said it contained 60-70ppm...and even if your just taking 1/2

> >> > teaspoon like it reccomends it still seems like it can be way too

> >> > much...especially if its ionic.

> >>

> >> I think it has arsenic and some other nasty stuff in it, but I

> >> generally have gotten energy boosts from these types of supplements.

> >> Not sure if it should be avoided or not, but if you do take anything

> >> with F, it should be taken with lots of Ca, which seriously impairs

> >> the absorption of F.

> >>

> >> Chris

> >

> > I deleted my post because after doing the calculations the Fluoride

> > levels appeared less menacing. I got scared after seeing the ppm but I

> > don't think it was justified. If you used 1/2 teaspoon a day in a cup

> > of water, that cup of water would have ~0.65 ppm fluoride, and you

> > would get %67 DV of magnesium. There appears to be about the same ppm

> > fluoride and calcium average so I find it confusing that it would stay

> > in ionic form and not form calcium fluoride.

> >

> > Not sure if I did the calculations right. After searching through the

> > analysis better the average ppm fluoride would be 62ppm (ranges from

> > nearly 0 to 200ppm) , and at a dose that is 1/2 teaspoon, there are 96

> > 1/2 teaspoons to 1 cup of water...so I just divided the ppm by 96 to

> > get the ppm of 1/2 t diluted in one cup.

> >

> > I wouldn't mind if someone else gave it a shot to find out the ppm if

> > you diluted it to a cup of water...if you put 1/2 teaspoon of it in

> > and it has 62ppm fluoride. Its been a while since chemistry

> > class...but I think my numbers work.

> >

> > -

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

After researching the amount of fluoride in concrentrace, I realized

that I overreacted to the fact that it contained 60-70ppm. After

doing calculations I think 40 drops had about the same amount of

fluoride as 1 or less cups of fluoridated water, which IMO isn't much

if you take care to avoid fluoride from other sources. I'd be willing

to bet a hot shower would add more fluoride to your body than concentrace.

-

> > >> > I just started taking Concentrace which is from the Great Salt

> Lake,

> > >> > but failed to search for fluoride content. I checked today

and one

> > >> > place said it contained 60-70ppm...and even if your just

taking 1/2

> > >> > teaspoon like it reccomends it still seems like it can be way too

> > >> > much...especially if its ionic.

> > >>

> > >> I think it has arsenic and some other nasty stuff in it, but I

> > >> generally have gotten energy boosts from these types of

supplements.

> > >> Not sure if it should be avoided or not, but if you do take

anything

> > >> with F, it should be taken with lots of Ca, which seriously impairs

> > >> the absorption of F.

> > >>

> > >> Chris

> > >

> > > I deleted my post because after doing the calculations the Fluoride

> > > levels appeared less menacing. I got scared after seeing the ppm

but I

> > > don't think it was justified. If you used 1/2 teaspoon a day in

a cup

> > > of water, that cup of water would have ~0.65 ppm fluoride, and you

> > > would get %67 DV of magnesium. There appears to be about the

same ppm

> > > fluoride and calcium average so I find it confusing that it

would stay

> > > in ionic form and not form calcium fluoride.

> > >

> > > Not sure if I did the calculations right. After searching

through the

> > > analysis better the average ppm fluoride would be 62ppm (ranges from

> > > nearly 0 to 200ppm) , and at a dose that is 1/2 teaspoon, there

are 96

> > > 1/2 teaspoons to 1 cup of water...so I just divided the ppm by 96 to

> > > get the ppm of 1/2 t diluted in one cup.

> > >

> > > I wouldn't mind if someone else gave it a shot to find out the

ppm if

> > > you diluted it to a cup of water...if you put 1/2 teaspoon of it in

> > > and it has 62ppm fluoride. Its been a while since chemistry

> > > class...but I think my numbers work.

> > >

> > > -

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It has come up in another group and someone said that it's in a form

that's inert so no need to worry.

> >

> > I just started taking Concentrace which is from the Great Salt

Lake,

> > but failed to search for fluoride content. I checked today and one

> > place said it contained 60-70ppm...and even if your just taking

1/2

> > teaspoon like it reccomends it still seems like it can be way too

> > much...especially if its ionic.

>

> But the other option, if not ionic, would be elemental fluorine

which is

> extremely poisonous and extremely rare...........so.........?

>

> By FDA labeling standards, they have to list the highest amount

ever tested,

> thus, the 60-70ppm, but in talking with them and our ND, levels

wildly

> fluctuate depending on the time of year, etc., so the 60-70 is not

going to

> be consistent

>

> >

> > I was taking it to make my water more like mineral water as it

has a

> > lot of magnesium and such.

> >

> > Luckily the place I bought it from accepts unconditional returns

and

> > pays return postage...

> >

> > Just thought I would post this as barely any places list the

fluoride

> > content of concentrace, and figured some of you might be using it.

> >

>

> There's a wide range of naturally-occurring minerals that appear in

> Concentrace which include:

>

> Lithium, Boron, Carbonate, Calcium, Bromide, Fluoride, Silicon,

Nitrogen,

> Selenium, Phosphorus, Iodide, Chromium, Iron, Manganese, Titanium,

Rubidium,

> Cobalt, Copper, Antimony, Arsenic, Molybdenum, Strontium, Zinc,

Nickel,

> Tungsten, Germanium, Aluminium, Scandium, Tin, Lanthanum, Lead,

Yttrium,

> Barium, Silver, Cadmium, Uranium, Gallium, Zirconium, Vanadium,

Beryllium,

> Tellurium, Bismuth, Hafnium, Terbium, Europium, Gadolinium,

Samarium,

> Cerium, Cesium, Gold, Mercury, Dysprosium, Holmium, Lutetium,

Thulium,

> Erbium, Ytterbium, Neodymium, Niobium, Tantalum, Thorium, Thallium,

Rhenium,

> Indium, Palladium, Platinum. Plus other minerals naturally found in

sea

> water.

>

>

> I've been using Concentrace for my Autistic son for years. His

nutritional

> blood levels, which included measuring normal and abnormal ranges of

> minerals, have been excellent with his doctors reporting them to be

> " abnormally normal " , given his autism. If you're concerned, how

about

> getting a nutritional blood profile so you have a foundation from

which to

> work your numbers?

>

> Sharon

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's not the same fluoride as in fluoridated water. It's

" natural " ....inert...... There's a wide variety of naturally

occurring trace minerals - not only fluoride, but lead, tin,

arsenic....list goes on and on......that is included in good quality

mineral supplements.

It's naturally occurring given that sea salt breaks down minerals and

as far as I can tell, there's a need for a little bit of naturally

occurring fluoride...or arsenic, and even mercury as radical as that

sounds given I have an Autistic child..............

I really don't think it is anything to be concerned about............

Sharon

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Cray Fish <crayfishfeed@...> wrote:

> I am not sure how to take it either. I initially bought it under the

> idea that it would make my water absorb better in my body so I would

> just put drops in whenever I took a drink, the serving size says 40

> drops but then it started making me more thirsty.

> someone gave me this explanation :Because the body likes to maintain a

> certain concentration of electrolytes (e.g., calcium, magnesium,

> sodium, potassium, chloride, phosphorous), an increase in electrolyte

> intake will sometimes increase H2O requirements (to sufficiently

> dilute the minerals throughout the body).

>

> I don't know how I feel about Concentrace at this point, and then to

> read it has flouride in it on top of everything. I have been taking it

> for weeks now and haven't noticed anything different but then again I

> hardly ever notice any differences when I take supplements.

>

>

>> >> > I just started taking Concentrace which is from the Great Salt

> Lake,

>> >> > but failed to search for fluoride content. I checked today and one

>> >> > place said it contained 60-70ppm...and even if your just taking 1/2

>> >> > teaspoon like it reccomends it still seems like it can be way too

>> >> > much...especially if its ionic.

>> >>

>> >> I think it has arsenic and some other nasty stuff in it, but I

>> >> generally have gotten energy boosts from these types of supplements.

>> >> Not sure if it should be avoided or not, but if you do take anything

>> >> with F, it should be taken with lots of Ca, which seriously impairs

>> >> the absorption of F.

>> >>

>> >> Chris

>> >

>> > I deleted my post because after doing the calculations the Fluoride

>> > levels appeared less menacing. I got scared after seeing the ppm but I

>> > don't think it was justified. If you used 1/2 teaspoon a day in a cup

>> > of water, that cup of water would have ~0.65 ppm fluoride, and you

>> > would get %67 DV of magnesium. There appears to be about the same ppm

>> > fluoride and calcium average so I find it confusing that it would stay

>> > in ionic form and not form calcium fluoride.

>> >

>> > Not sure if I did the calculations right. After searching through the

>> > analysis better the average ppm fluoride would be 62ppm (ranges from

>> > nearly 0 to 200ppm) , and at a dose that is 1/2 teaspoon, there are 96

>> > 1/2 teaspoons to 1 cup of water...so I just divided the ppm by 96 to

>> > get the ppm of 1/2 t diluted in one cup.

>> >

>> > I wouldn't mind if someone else gave it a shot to find out the ppm if

>> > you diluted it to a cup of water...if you put 1/2 teaspoon of it in

>> > and it has 62ppm fluoride. Its been a while since chemistry

>> > class...but I think my numbers work.

>> >

>> > -

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>

>

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Yep...I totally agree............

Sharon

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:16 PM, haecklers <haecklers@...> wrote:

> It has come up in another group and someone said that it's in a form

> that's inert so no need to worry.

>

>

>

>>

[Guest guest]

>

> So I bought some concentrace...and how do you guys take this stuff?

>

> It's NASTY!!! LOL

>

> Just wondering what your tips would be...

>

> Leah

Put it in a small amount of water, gulp it down, then follow with more

water!!!

Jewel