Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Sounds like lyme. See www.canlyme.com (.org?) for symptoms and issues with mis-diagnosis. Younger people seem more prone to getting the arthritis type symptoms. You can have it " successfully treated " at a younger age then have it flare again at college-age when you get more stress. Off the top of my head, common syptoms are brain fog, fatigue during the day but sleeplessness at night, stiff neck, swollen glands, urinary tract issues, digestion issues, chronic sinus infection-type issues or ear clogging/popping/ringing, poor ability to digest alcohol, weight gain/loss, fatigue after exercising, fibromyalgia/chronic fatigue/MS/Lou Gehrig's symptoms, Bell's Palsy, cranial nerve problems. It goes on. I am amazed at how many symptoms a person can build up without getting extremely worried - because it happens so gradually. I was actually numb in the skin on my face and torso and didn't notice it much - thought my memory was off on how things used to feel. There are several good alternative treatment strategies - Buhner's herbal protocol (expensive), lymestrategies ( group one - cheap), or long-term antibiotics if the two-week course doesn't work. I've also heard teasel root extract works wonders. --- In , " rumkat74 " <rumkat74@...> wrote: > > Hi all > > Does anyone have any good suggestions on help with creaky, achy > joints? My hands, back, pretty much all of my joints seem to have been > bothering me for forever. I haven't noticed any dietary triggers. > > and FYI, I'm only 19, so it's not an age issue. > > thanks in advance > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 I'm only 22 and I connect it with yeast. If I ever eat too many carbs and not enough fermented food I will feel it in my joints, and I assume its because of toxic byproducts of the yeast. My muscles will also feel tight especially in my shoulder area. To test you would have to avoid carbs and see what happens. I don't have to avoid them completely but I do have to find a balance. - > > Hi all > > Does anyone have any good suggestions on help with creaky, achy > joints? My hands, back, pretty much all of my joints seem to have been > bothering me for forever. I haven't noticed any dietary triggers. > > and FYI, I'm only 19, so it's not an age issue. > > thanks in advance > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 On 3/14/08, gdawson6 <gdawson6@...> wrote: > I'm only 22 and I connect it with yeast. If I ever eat too many carbs > and not enough fermented food I will feel it in my joints, and I > assume its because of toxic byproducts of the yeast. My muscles will > also feel tight especially in my shoulder area. > > To test you would have to avoid carbs and see what happens. I don't > have to avoid them completely but I do have to find a balance. What types of carbs are problematic? Starchy foods are usually high in lectins, and lectins can contribute to arthritis by a) binding sugars needed for the joints or binding sugars in the joints directly and contributing to inflammation. Not that it couldn't be connected with yeast by products (of course, yeasts also produce lectins, so it could be both), but I think the lectin thing has a little more established support. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Hi , > Does anyone have any good suggestions on help with creaky, achy > joints? My hands, back, pretty much all of my joints seem to have been > bothering me for forever. I haven't noticed any dietary triggers. What do you generally eat, and roughly how have you been eating for the last four years? The problem has existed as long as you can remember back? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 > > I'm only 22 and I connect it with yeast. If I ever eat too many carbs > > and not enough fermented food I will feel it in my joints, and I > > assume its because of toxic byproducts of the yeast. My muscles will > > also feel tight especially in my shoulder area. > > > > To test you would have to avoid carbs and see what happens. I don't > > have to avoid them completely but I do have to find a balance. > > What types of carbs are problematic? Starchy foods are usually high > in lectins, and lectins can contribute to arthritis by a) binding > sugars needed for the joints or binding sugars in the joints > directly and contributing to inflammation. Not that it couldn't be > connected with yeast by products (of course, yeasts also produce > lectins, so it could be both), but I think the lectin thing has a > little more established support. > > Chris > I never really thought of that...but when I eat carbs its usually just wheat, rye, or oats. Raw honey has never seemed to cause problems now that I think about it. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 --- gdawson6 <gdawson6@...> wrote: > > > > > Hi all > > > > Does anyone have any good suggestions on help with > creaky, achy > > joints? My hands, back, pretty much all of my > joints seem to have been > > bothering me for forever. I haven't noticed any > dietary triggers. > > > > and FYI, I'm only 19, so it's not an age issue. > , just to be on the safe side (even though you are only 19 and it's probably not this) get your estrogen levels tested. If on the low side, then that would explain it. It's PROBABLY NOT THAT but worth testing. - Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. -WB Yeats ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 --- In , Seay <entheogens@...> wrote: > , just to be on the safe side (even though you > are only 19 and it's probably not this) get your > estrogen levels tested. If on the low side, then that > would explain it. It's PROBABLY NOT THAT but worth > testing. > - Hi , I would guess that my estrogen levels are probably low. I probably should have mentioned earlier that I have been struggling with an eating disorder since middle school. I'm currently doing better (I give a lot of credit to raw milk) but still have some weight to gain, and my period has never been regular. I'm seeing a nutritionist, but she is an advocate of the SAD diet. I've been attempting to combine her suggestions with more NT thinking, but its confusing. How would an abnormal estrogen level effect my joints? And how could I fix this with food? thanks katie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 --- rumkat74 <rumkat74@...> wrote: > Hi , I would guess that my estrogen levels are > probably low. , I would do more than guess. I would get the estradiol checked. I am not wanting to pose as a diagnostician here. I just thought that if you did not know what was causing it, the estrogen might be an angle that you hadn't thought of and MIGHT be worth investigating. If you get such a test, I would be sure to have it looked at by a Doctor whom you REALLY trust and know to be good. Best if they have a background in endocrinology. A lot of tests, come back in the normal range, despite the fact that the issue is causing problems. > How would an abnormal estrogen level effect my > joints? Lubrication of the joints diminishes. >And how could I > fix this with food? Since low estrogen would be a typical issue for peri-menopausal women, perhaps there are some women on here who can address that.I know Mexican Wild Yam is one natural pro-estrogen that is touted, but I lack the background to say if it works or not. - ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Hmm. I thought Wild Yam was pro-progesterone. Do you use B-vitamins to treat your anorexia? Adele mentions a link between eating disorders and B vitamins in Lets Eat Right to Keep Fit, but there isn't an entry in the index I could find to look up specific ones for you. Desh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Desh No, I'm not taking any B vitamins. Right now I take CLO, coenzyme Q10, Calcium (actually, it's Jarrow's " Bone Up " formula, with K2), and renew life probiotics daily. I'm eating what feels like a lot of butter, but probably is just a normal amount for most people, raw milk, eggs, cheese every day. I've been trying to do liver frequently too. Do you know which b vitamins are supposed to help, and how? > > Hmm. I thought Wild Yam was pro-progesterone. Do you use B-vitamins to > treat your anorexia? Adele mentions a link between eating > disorders and B vitamins in Lets Eat Right to Keep Fit, but there isn't > an entry in the index I could find to look up specific ones for you. > > Desh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 On 3/14/08, gdawson6 <gdawson6@...> wrote: > I'm only 22 and I connect it with yeast. If I ever eat too many carbs > and not enough fermented food I will feel it in my joints, and I > assume its because of toxic byproducts of the yeast. My muscles will > also feel tight especially in my shoulder area. If you are gluten intolerant, wheat and other grains containing gluten will cause achy joints and muscles. I found relief from muscle tightness in my neck and shoulders after completely eliminating gluten from my diet. Also, milk is known for being problematic with achy joints and muscles as well. My mother, who has had problems with her knees for years, found relief almost immediately when she cut out all dairy. Gluten and casein (dairy) intolerance often go hand-in-hand. You're welcome to join us on this list if you think you might be intolerant to one or both: GFCFNN Fern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I haven't been able to find the reference. I intend on annotating the book, but it could be awhile. It's an easy read, you should be able to pick it up used for little cost- ditto for all her works. Desh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 thanks everyone for all the great ideas! this group is awesome - so supportive. i'm going to try and find out what's causing my stiffness. if i have any breakthroughs i'll update you. thanks again katie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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