Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 My daughter is having her tonsil's removed on Tuesday, but for other reasons. Our greatest fear in the decision was if it does cure it, will it come back. I know there has been story after story about how great it is after the tonsilectomy...but there have also been many stories about it returning at 13 and 14 years of age. So, do you let them suffer through it for the short term (it seems on average about 5 years) and then it seems to be gone, or do you take the chance and get rid of it now, with the chance that it will return and who knows how long it will last. Like Fran has said, there just isn't long term studies...I wish it was that easy. Trish Leanne <leannedavis@...> wrote: Hey everyone, I am going to ramble here and I don't want to offend anyone. But here goes. I am amazed at how many Doctors recommend and don't recommend T & A. Is it because of the danger of surgery or because the parents are scared? I don't know but all I do know is this has worked for our son. We asked, do we need further test? The exact answer was no.. if it was any other PFS it would be treated the same way. (with exceptions) Not my words his. You know we trusted him. And thank goodness we did. Please don't shoot the messenger but if your Dr. recommends T & A please consider this option as it is not that bad of surgery. I know, it probably really needs to be considered if your child is very, very young. My Cade was 3 1/2. I don't want to talk you into this because it is surgery but if it helps stop the fevers and lets your child be a normal child please consider it. I read all of the posts and am amazed at the kids that could possibly benefit from this surgery. If your like any number of us you probably had your tonsils out when you were young. Anyway I hope I have not offened anyone and I hope you will consider this If your Dr. recommends and if he don't ask him/her about it. I know that some of the kids on here have other issues that this may not help. Please don't think I'am crazy or anything I am a normal person with a family. Alisha 21, Texas A & M leaning towards Dental Hygiene, 25,graduated from University of Texas and is now in Grad school (pharmacy). Husband . My names is Leanne and I am 45 yrs old and have sold real estate for over 15 yrs now. Just laying out the background of me and my family so maybe you won't think I am crazy. If you need to talk to me hey, I am here and will answer any questions I can. Thank you Fran for creating this site, as I don't know what I would have done without it. Also I will continue and will always continue to read posts. This is a great group and I appreciate you letting me get this off my chest. Please, please don't be offended because I am not a Dr. just a realtor. Leanne Cade 4yrs old fever free for 7 months now. Waxahachie, TX 75165 --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Hello, A friend is planning on having her tonsil's removed - after a few years of having a lot of sore throat issues it is her doctor's recommendation. She also has had her appendix removed about 12 years ago (9 years old). I am concerned that the tonsil procedure will further diminish her immunity. Does anyone know of any information, research or articles I could send her way to give her another opinion? Thanks! Sue Bette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Hi, It is my personal belief that tonsils serve a function even if it is only to slow down & not gulp down foods, encouraging proper mastication. I left the tonsils in all my children who are trim healthy adults now, they tend to not overeat & eat as fast as others who had the ectomy performed. Best Always, Jim feelgoodeats <sue@...> wrote: Hello, A friend is planning on having her tonsil's removed - after a few years of having a lot of sore throat issues it is her doctor's recommendation. She also has had her appendix removed about 12 years ago (9 years old). I am concerned that the tonsil procedure will further diminish her immunity. Does anyone know of any information, research or articles I could send her way to give her another opinion? Thanks! Sue Bette Well done is better than well said..., Jim Igo --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I think, and this is just my opinion, that it is better to leave your organs where they are unless death is imminent. I had my appendix out 20 years ago and it just came out in the past month that they finally figured out at least one of the things the appendix does... that it helps metabolize the B vitamins. Don't you know but that I suffer from depression which is greatly helped by taking B complex vitamin supplements. If I still had my appendix I would probably not need to supplement. I now have problems with low thyroid and adrenal function. I believe that when one organ cannot do it's job another will step in and help out but it was never mean't to do the job full time... something has to give... so you end up with problems downstream; ie. I know someone who had her gall bladder out. Now she has cirrosis of the liver... not because she's an alcholic but because the gall bladder is not doing it's job and her doctor never told her to take bile salts so the liver got overwhelmed trying to do two jobs. Does your friend eat NN way ? I also think poor nutrition led to the downhill slide of my health. I'm sorry I don't have any articles to point you to... I know that would have been more help than just my opinion. If only health and the way our bodies organs and glands work were taught in school in such a way that would help kids/us take responsibilty for our own health and well being and being proactive in keeping our immune system strong ! > Hello, > > A friend is planning on having her tonsil's removed - after a few > years of having a lot of sore throat issues it is her doctor's > recommendation. She also has had her appendix removed about 12 years > ago (9 years old). I am concerned that the tonsil procedure will > further diminish her immunity. Does anyone know of any information, > research or articles I could send her way to give her another opinion? > > Thanks! Sue Bette > > > > > > > Well done is better than well said..., Jim Igo > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 --- Sue Bette " feelgoodeats " <sue@...> wrote: > A friend is planning on having her tonsil's removed - after a few > years of having a lot of sore throat issues it is her doctor's > recommendation. She also has had her appendix removed about 12 years > ago (9 years old). I am concerned that the tonsil procedure will > further diminish her immunity. Does anyone know of any information, > research or articles I could send her way to give her another > opinion? Sue Bette, I agree with and Barbie that in most cases there is no need to remove the tonsils. They are useful part of the immune system and it makes sense to eat foods to strengthen the immune system like bone broth and probiotic foods and to avoid foods that weaken the immune system, like sugar and polyunsaturated fats and oils. Also, the appendix apparently is involved in helping to maintain good flora in the digestive system, which in turn supports the immune system. Here's a couple of articles by Dr Mercola: " Avoid the tonsillectomy! " http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/09/29/tonsillectomy.aspx " Is your appendix really a useless organ? " http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/10/23/is-your-appendix-r\ eally-a-useless-organ.aspx Doctors took out my tonsils when I was about 5 years old in 1957. I don't remember very much from that age, but I can still vividly remember the awful smell of the ether gauze being pressed over my face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Tonsils are a filter for the immune system. She needs them! You will have to google. . . no links here. Desh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Dr Norman W. in his book on COLON HEALTH: THE KEY TO VIBRANT HEALTH says the following concerning the tonsils. And let it be noted too that he is giving a description of the colon and where the different organs are affected by it. I am quoting from his book. Concerning the tonsils: Tonsils, should we keep them? Next further upon this side of the Cecum, we find that the middle of the pouch or sacculation is labeled tonsils. This is to indicate that this area has some relationship to the glands in the throat known as the tonsils. Did anyone ever tell you that tonsils have no useful purpose, and that they should be removed during childhood in order to prevent their having to be taken out later in life? Those who ascribe this theory do not know what they are talking about. My medical dictionary brushes off the subject by merely stating that, " The tonsil is a small almond-shaped body situated on each side, between the front and the read pillars, of the soft palate. It consists of an aggregation of from 10 to 18 small follicles (bags or crypts) covered by a mucous membrane. " The entire healing profession has greatly minimized the vital importance of the these two indispensable glands, the tonsils. It is true Almighty God made man out of the dust of the earth, in His own image, and when He breathed into him the breath of life, Man became a living soul, and it was good. God never placed in the human body any thing that was not useful and necessary. So, like every other gland in the body, the tonsils have their part in the economy of the human anatomy, its functions and activities. I have studied very carefully may of the books published by the brothers I. and G. Calderoli of Bergamo, Italy, recounting in detail the results in the Universities of Vienna and Berlin. I have many of their books, written in Italian, and refer to them often. When I met Dr G. Calderoli in Bergamo, Italy some years ago, we discussed this subject very thoroughly. I asked him if any of his patients suffering with tonsils happened to be bothered with aches or pains in the right side, under the ribs. He never paid much attention to this, but as he thought back, he remembered it was a frequent complaint which was often attributed to some disturbance in the appendix. I asked if any of his patients had an appendectomy after the tonsils had been " taken care of. " He did not remember any instance where this took place, and he agreed taht undoubtedly the clearing up of the tonsil ailment may have indirectly had something to do with the colon. Some people assume the most important function of the tonsils is to collect germs, microbes and bacteria, preventing their entrance into the system. Such statements come from those who either are not aware that the body is literally filled with conflicting germs or do not know the deeper activities of the glands in the body. Swollen tonsils are among the most notorious afflictions of children and young people, purely and simply because they neglect to respond to the call of their bowels and fail to understand the importance of proper nutrition. Adults are just as prone to neglect these two basic principles in the attainment and the maintenance of health. Without having studied the reason why Almighty God placed the tonsils where they are, not investigated the after effects or removing afflicted tonsils, the general custom for generations has been to cut them out. Unquestionably, ther is an endocrine gland correlation between tonsils, reproductive organs, and the cecum pouch of the colon. Man cannot interfere with this intimate relationship with out grave danger. A Young doctor, only 38 years of age, whose tonsils were removed declared, " I myself feel a progressive weariness, I am always tired, even after resting. This is the end of my quoting from the book. You can get the book on Amazon.com and read the whole book. Here is a chart by Dr on the colon showing where all the organs of the body are affected by the colon. http://www.colonicsbykathy.com/hydrotherapy/colon-health/colon-therapy-c\ hart.html Regards, > > Hello, > > A friend is planning on having her tonsil's removed - after a few > years of having a lot of sore throat issues it is her doctor's > recommendation. She also has had her appendix removed about 12 years > ago (9 years old). I am concerned that the tonsil procedure will > further diminish her immunity. Does anyone know of any information, > research or articles I could send her way to give her another opinion? > > Thanks! Sue Bette > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 The Tabor's Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary (#18) states: " The tonsil produces lymphocytes and monocytes, and contains macrophages that phagocytize pathogens that get through the epithelium. " -Lana On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:21 AM, De Bell-Frantz <deshabell@...> wrote: > Tonsils are a filter for the immune system. She needs them! You will > have to google. . . no links here. > > Desh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 > ago (9 years old). I am concerned that the tonsil procedure will > further diminish her immunity. Does anyone know of any information, > research or articles I could send her way to give her another opinion? My entire life, my tonsils were the size of quarters. They were so huge that even as an adult, they were a choking hazard. Amazingly, my doctor growing up was hesitant to remove them. I avoided surgery as a adult based solely on my belief that God didn't create spare parts when he made us. When I was diagnosed as celiac in 2006 and went off of gluten, my tonsils shrank to a normal size in less than 2 weeks. I haven't had any problems since then unless I accidentally get glutened. I recommend anyone attempt to find and eliminate their food allergies before having their tonsils or appendix removed- there is also a correction between appendectomy and celiac disease. KerryAnn www.tfrecipes.com/forum/ - Traditional Foods Menu Mailer and NEW Forum! " I could have saved thousands-if only I'd been able to convince them they were slaves. " Harriet Tubman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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