Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Laree, Thanks so much for your dental input. Where do you obtain bile salts? I have heard of malic acid as a food preservative such as citric acid in fruit juices, but where do you get isolated malic acid from? I am no chemist, but would like to learn. Currently I use a mixture of boric acid mixed w/ sugar water to exterminate invasive ants in the house, it works great. Boric acid is extremely hard to find at pharmacies anymore, as it has been taken off the shelves & cannot be easily ordered. Is there a link to obtain these salts & chemicals? Baking soda & 3% peroxide are easily obtainable, almost anywhere however. Well done is better than well said..., Jim Igo From: Laree Kline <lareekline@...> Subject: RE: do you go to the dentist? Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 6:14 AM Hi , I used to work for a dentist. Some people's teeth are naturally yellow, some gray, some white --- and there are seemingly limitless numbers of variations of those shades. If your teeth used to be whiter than they are now, they are most likely stained, which is not a dangerous thing. Below is something natural I found on whitening and tried only once but had a hard time keeping it on my teeth for the time period. Basically, the acting ingredient the dentists use is hydrogen peroxide but you have to be extremely careful with that as it will dry out the bone, not to mention that you will be absorbing it into your system. I'm not inclined to try it on myself. What is dangerous is a bacteria that lodges in plaque and periodontal disease that is very dangerous for your heart. I have not tried this, but would like to see if my dentist could simply do a bacteria test (most every dentist has the equipment) to see how I'm doing, without going through the cleanings. I had so much plaque that a past hygienist gave me a scaler to use in between cleanings. We could never figure out why I had so much because I was so good at brushing and flossing. Recently I saw a paragraph from a Price-Pottenger article about the connection between calculus and bile (maybe on this list?). I started supplementing bile and do seem to have less plaque.... maybe a little too soon to tell how much of a difference it makes though. I'm including that paragraph also below. Hope this helps. TEETH WHITENING The secret to this inexpensive home whitening method is malic acid, which acts as an astringent to remove surface discoloration. Combined with baking soda, strawberries become a natural tooth-cleanser, buffing away stains from coffee, red wine, and dark sodas. While it’s no replacement for a bleaching treatment at your dentist’s office, “this is a fast, cheap way to brighten your smile,” says Adina Carrel, DMD, a dentist in private practice at Manhattan Dental Arts in New York. “Be careful not to use this too often, though, as the acid could damage the enamel on your teeth.” You need: 1 ripe strawberry 1/2 teaspoon baking soda Directions: Crush the strawberry to a pulp, then mix with the baking powder until blended. Use a soft toothbrush to spread the mixture onto your teeth. Leave on for 5 minutes, then brush thoroughly with toothpaste to remove the berry–baking soda mix. Rinse. (A little floss will help get rid of any strawberry seeds.) Carrel says you can apply once a week.***In 1997, a significant article appeared in the Health Journal of the Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation, discussing " systematic acidosis resulting from glandular deficiencies that impair fat metabolism. " 104 The author, a dentist, discussed how this acidosis was the cause of calculus (scale) deposited on teeth, and could be reversed by supplementation of bile salts. The article provides careful and detailed information on bile supplementation which must be adjusted to individual need. Two tablets of 5-grain ox bile are to be taken with each meal, to be reduced to one if diarrhea occurs, and discontinued if diarrhea continues, indicating another source of fat disturbance is likely. It is interesting that, while I benefited greatly from bile supplementation, I never was subject to dental calculus; thus, a trial of bile salts is desirable in cases of liver or gall bladder congestion whether or not calculus is present.**** >> Just curious what you all do. Just wondering what the necessity is at> this point for going unless there is something noticeably wrong. I> used to be so conscientious about getting cleanings every 6 months,> but now haven't been for about 2 years and am wondering if I should> consider going back. I did find a holistic dentist where I live so> that's good. Have been using soap to brush my teeth now for a while> and I remember reading something on the toothsoap web site about the> dental cleanings actually being harmful for your teeth. Although, my> teeth are definitely not as white as they used to be! Any natural> options that work? I use baking soda once per week, but still doesn't> quite do the trick.> > thanks!> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 the acting ingredient the dentists use is hydrogen peroxide but you have to be extremely careful with that as it will dry out the bone, not to mention that you will be absorbing it into your system What does dry out the bone mean? and what is the problem with " absorbing it into your system " ? I have personal experience using the homeopathic remedy fragaria (which worked GREAT!) and colloidal silver (DO NOT RECOMMEND!) to correct some deep pockets. I'll post it later when I have more time. Kathy Thanks, Kathy ---- Laree Kline <lareekline@...> wrote: ============= Hi , I used to work for a dentist. Some people's teeth are naturally yellow, some gray, some white --- and there are seemingly limitless numbers of variations of those shades. If your teeth used to be whiter than they are now, they are most likely stained, which is not a dangerous thing. Below is something natural I found on whitening and tried only once but had a hard time keeping it on my teeth for the time period. Basically, the acting ingredient the dentists use is hydrogen peroxide but you have to be extremely careful with that as it will dry out the bone, not to mention that you will be absorbing it into your system. I'm not inclined to try it on myself. What is dangerous is a bacteria that lodges in plaque and periodontal disease that is very dangerous for your heart. I have not tried this, but would like to see if my dentist could simply do a bacteria test (most every dentist has the equipment) to see how I'm doing, without going through the cleanings. I had so much plaque that a past hygienist gave me a scaler to use in between cleanings. We could never figure out why I had so much because I was so good at brushing and flossing. Recently I saw a paragraph from a Price-Pottenger article about the connection between calculus and bile (maybe on this list?). I started supplementing bile and do seem to have less plaque.... maybe a little too soon to tell how much of a difference it makes though. I'm including that paragraph also below. Hope this helps. TEETH WHITENING The secret to this inexpensive home whitening method is malic acid, which acts as an astringent to remove surface discoloration. Combined with baking soda, strawberries become a natural tooth-cleanser, buffing away stains from coffee, red wine, and dark sodas. While it’s no replacement for a bleaching treatment at your dentist’s office, “this is a fast, cheap way to brighten your smile,” says Adina Carrel, DMD, a dentist in private practice at Manhattan Dental Arts in New York. “Be careful not to use this too often, though, as the acid could damage the enamel on your teeth.” You need: 1 ripe strawberry 1/2 teaspoon baking soda Directions: Crush the strawberry to a pulp, then mix with the baking powder until blended. Use a soft toothbrush to spread the mixture onto your teeth. Leave on for 5 minutes, then brush thoroughly with toothpaste to remove the berry–baking soda mix. Rinse. (A little floss will help get rid of any strawberry seeds.) Carrel says you can apply once a week.***In 1997, a significant article appeared in the Health Journal of the Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation, discussing " systematic acidosis resulting from glandular deficiencies that impair fat metabolism. " 104 The author, a dentist, discussed how this acidosis was the cause of calculus (scale) deposited on teeth, and could be reversed by supplementation of bile salts. The article provides careful and detailed information on bile supplementation which must be adjusted to individual need. Two tablets of 5-grain ox bile are to be taken with each meal, to be reduced to one if diarrhea occurs, and discontinued if diarrhea continues, indicating another source of fat disturbance is likely. It is interesting that, while I benefited greatly from bile supplementation, I never was subject to dental calculus; thus, a trial of bile salts is desirable in cases of liver or gall bladder congestion whether or not calculus is present.**** --- In , " lisa_mc_connell " <mmlisa2@...> wrote:>> Just curious what you all do. Just wondering what the necessity is at> this point for going unless there is something noticeably wrong. I> used to be so conscientious about getting cleanings every 6 months,> but now haven't been for about 2 years and am wondering if I should> consider going back. I did find a holistic dentist where I live so> that's good. Have been using soap to brush my teeth now for a while> and I remember reading something on the toothsoap web site about the> dental cleanings actually being harmful for your teeth. Although, my> teeth are definitely not as white as they used to be! Any natural> options that work? I use baking soda once per week, but still doesn't> quite do the trick.> > thanks!> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 I used to get a lot of plaque too. It turned out that I had undiagnosed lyme disease during that time so the chronic illness may have been doing something to my body chemistry. I started the salt/c protocol for lyme and my teeth started getting cleaner. I read up on vitamin C and found that according to Linus ing, taking largish amounts of vitamin C (I forget now, but I know it was more than 500 mg maybe 2 grams a day) was equivalent to brushing an extra time a day. So there are a number of possibilities to explain why your teeth would get more plaque - maybe it's the pH of the saliva and the vitamin C by increasing health (or just being an acid that makes the body go alkaline) increases the alkalinity of the mouth. Or some low-level infection is throwing off your body chemistry, maybe vitamin C deficiency is causing it - complete scurvy causes bleeding gums, so would a low-level deficiency cause other changes in oral health?? > > > From: Laree Kline <lareekline@...> > Subject: RE: do you go to the dentist? > > Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 6:14 AM > > Hi , I > had so much plaque that a past hygienist gave me a scaler to use in between > cleanings. We could never figure out why I had so much because I was so good > at brushing and flossing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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