Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 We have had much discussion on the use of Modifier -59 for PT services within our hospital (outpatient PT services specifically). We have been told that using the modifier creates a " red flag " with Medicare. But no one has really been able to explain what impact that has on us -- will it generate an audit? In my discussion with private practices in the Denver area, most say that it is not an issue and have referred me to the Modifer -59 Article (on the CMS website). The article says that the modifier should only be used to " indicate that a procedure or service was distinct or indpendent from other services performed on the same day. " It also goes on to say that it " ... is used to identify procedures/services taht are not normally reported together, but are appropriate under the circumstances. " In our situation, we would use it as an NCCI-associated modifer, and thus the article goes on to say that, " For the NCCI its primary purpose is to indictate that two or more procedures are performed at different anatomical sites or different patient encounter. " However, in the examples attached to the article, modifer -59 is used for manual therapy and therapeutic activities -- which we might frequently use in combination during a treatment session for a post- op TKR. The example further goes along to say that the " Modifier -59 is: 1) only appropriate if the two procedures are performed in distictly different 15 minutes intervals. 2) the two codes cannot be reported together if performed during the same 15 minute time interval. " Does this seem very different from the NCCI-associated modifer definition? The definitions given on usage of the modifier seems somewhat contridictory and it is very confusing to me as to what is correct. I am just a Therapist (and proud to be!) and I know that I am making this harder than it might be but how do your organizations handle the use of this modifier and has anyone had problems with Medicare when using it. I want to pass on this information along to our rehab manager in an effort to meet the needs of our patients and pay the bills at the same time. Thanks! Jim Milani, PT, MA, MPT Boulder Community Hospital Community Medical Center (303)604-4664 (x4654) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 I am new to the website and I am not sure how to post a reply, but would like to share what I know about the subject. I am very involved in the local chapter of the Louisiana Medical Group Management Association in which I sit on the Board of Directors. We meet once a month and hash out these kinds of things. Every November Medicare comes and speaks to our group and fills us in as to the changes for the next year. Each state has a contact person that you can do directly to. I will be happy to help you in any way I can. I just recently went to a PT seminar for the changes with our cap. Attached please find a spreadsheet from the Louisiana Medicare website. This tells you if a modifier is needed to bill two codes together. I always use a -59 when I bill 97140 & 97110 together. In 4 years I have never had Medicare audit anything, ever! C. Castille Office Manager Trey Duhon Physical Therapy 119 Arnould Blvd. Lafayette, LA 70506 Phone:(337)769-1281 Fax: (337)769-1283 This e-mail contains information which (a) may be PROPRIETARY IN NATURE OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, AND ( is intended only for user of the addressee(s) named above. If you are not the addressee(s), you are hereby notified that reading, copying, or distributing this email is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Trey Duhon Physical Therapy at immediately. Modifier -59 We have had much discussion on the use of Modifier -59 for PT services within our hospital (outpatient PT services specifically). We have been told that using the modifier creates a " red flag " with Medicare. But no one has really been able to explain what impact that has on us -- will it generate an audit? In my discussion with private practices in the Denver area, most say that it is not an issue and have referred me to the Modifer -59 Article (on the CMS website). The article says that the modifier should only be used to " indicate that a procedure or service was distinct or indpendent from other services performed on the same day. " It also goes on to say that it " ... is used to identify procedures/services taht are not normally reported together, but are appropriate under the circumstances. " In our situation, we would use it as an NCCI-associated modifer, and thus the article goes on to say that, " For the NCCI its primary purpose is to indictate that two or more procedures are performed at different anatomical sites or different patient encounter. " However, in the examples attached to the article, modifer -59 is used for manual therapy and therapeutic activities -- which we might frequently use in combination during a treatment session for a post- op TKR. The example further goes along to say that the " Modifier -59 is: 1) only appropriate if the two procedures are performed in distictly different 15 minutes intervals. 2) the two codes cannot be reported together if performed during the same 15 minute time interval. " Does this seem very different from the NCCI-associated modifer definition? The definitions given on usage of the modifier seems somewhat contridictory and it is very confusing to me as to what is correct. I am just a Therapist (and proud to be!) and I know that I am making this harder than it might be but how do your organizations handle the use of this modifier and has anyone had problems with Medicare when using it. I want to pass on this information along to our rehab manager in an effort to meet the needs of our patients and pay the bills at the same time. Thanks! Jim Milani, PT, MA, MPT Boulder Community Hospital Community Medical Center (303)604-4664 (x4654) Please identify yourself, your discipline and your location in all messages to PTManager. Sick of working for someone else? Tired of fighting against POPTS? Ready to quit the corporate nonsense of large organizations? Visit www.InHomeRehab.com. PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join APTA, AOTA or ASHA and participate now! Please identify yourself, your discipline and your location in all messages to PTManager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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