Re: Opinions on Mercola's krill oil?

[Guest guest]

FYI, Dr. Eades' has a number of posts on krill oil. A place

to start anyway. Here's one:

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/krill-oil-and-

inflammation/

Connie

> What do you folks think about the krill oil that Mercola promotes?

I am actually more curious

> about it as an antioxidant than an omega-3 / vitamin A & D supplement

(CLO is far superior in

> that department). Mercola claims that the astaxanthin and

the " marine flavanoid

> antioxidants " contained in the krill oil are " the most bioavailable

on the market " . The

> reference for that claim seems to come from the company itself so I

don't necessarily trust it.

>

> Curious to know if anyone has looked into this further.

>

> Chris

>

[Guest guest]

--- Connie <cbrown2008@...> wrote:

> FYI, Dr. Eades' has a number of posts on krill oil. A place

> to start anyway. Here's one:

>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/krill-oil-and-inflammation/

Connie, great link! That's good to know about krill oil, but I wonder

if cod liver oil has the same effect. In other words, is it the EPA

and DHA that provide the lowering of inflammation, or do the

anti-oxidants in the krill oil also play a role?

Seems like I've read elsewhere that EPA and DHA alone are

anti-inflammatory. But I've also read that Dr Blaylock says EPA

suppresses the immune system, although I'm not sure at what dose. I

would assume that if this is true, that might be a good reason not to

get too much CLO or krill oil.

[Guest guest]

> > FYI, Dr. Eades' has a number of posts on krill oil. A place

> > to start anyway. Here's one:

>

>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/krill-oil-and-inflammation/

>

> Connie, great link! That's good to know about krill oil, but I wonder

> if cod liver oil has the same effect. In other words, is it the EPA

> and DHA that provide the lowering of inflammation, or do the

> anti-oxidants in the krill oil also play a role?

>

> Seems like I've read elsewhere that EPA and DHA alone are

> anti-inflammatory. But I've also read that Dr Blaylock says EPA

> suppresses the immune system, although I'm not sure at what dose. I

> would assume that if this is true, that might be a good reason not to

> get too much CLO or krill oil.

>

>

>

Mercola's prices usually seem like a big ripoff to me. I would go

somewhere else if you wanted to try krill oil. Best place I found was

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/ and if you want to return it within a

year they will give you a full refund and pay for the return shipping.

Mercola's K2 was seriously 4x what I paid for it from somewhere else,

and you got only 1/2 the amount of capsules at a similar

potency...making it effectively 8x more than what I paid.

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[Guest guest]

I do a lot of research on the net to write on health issues, I find one truth

pervades, if you consult a person [or website] on the merits of the product he

is selling, that product is the best ever formulated, no pros-and con

discussions, I'd suggest you look at the whole picture, including the fact that

Krill are being harvested at such a rate that the mammals dependant on that food

are disappearing.

Katy Brezger

> > FYI, Dr. Eades' has a number of posts on krill oil. A place

> > to start anyway. Here's one:

>

>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/krill-oil-and-inflammation/

>

> Connie, great link! That's good to know about krill oil, but I wonder

> if cod liver oil has the same effect. In other words, is it the EPA

> and DHA that provide the lowering of inflammation, or do the

> anti-oxidants in the krill oil also play a role?

>

> Seems like I've read elsewhere that EPA and DHA alone are

> anti-inflammatory. But I've also read that Dr Blaylock says EPA

> suppresses the immune system, although I'm not sure at what dose. I

> would assume that if this is true, that might be a good reason not to

> get too much CLO or krill oil.

>

>

>

Mercola's prices usually seem like a big ripoff to me. I would go

somewhere else if you wanted to try krill oil. Best place I found was

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/ and if you want to return it within a

year they will give you a full refund and pay for the return shipping.

Mercola's K2 was seriously 4x what I paid for it from somewhere else,

and you got only 1/2 the amount of capsules at a similar

potency...making it effectively 8x more than what I paid.

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10:26 AM

[Guest guest]

> Seems like I've read elsewhere that EPA and DHA alone are

> anti-inflammatory. But I've also read that Dr Blaylock says EPA

> suppresses the immune system, although I'm not sure at what dose. I

> would assume that if this is true, that might be a good reason not to

> get too much CLO or krill oil.

Yes, it's difficult to know what the mechanism of action is here. Indeed, many,

many studies

demonstrate that EPA is anti-inflammatory. However, since it is a PUFA, it is

more vulnerable

to oxidization and therefore should probably not be consumed in large amounts.

I think it's

probably safe at the level recommended for the study, though - especially if you

are doing

everything you can to reduce oxidative stress on your body.

The results of that study are impressive, though. CRP has been implicated in

heart disease

and many other inflammatory conditions and auto-immune disease, including RA.

K.

[Guest guest]

I've been taking Neptune Krill Oil purchased from the Vitamin Shoppe. I've

taken Cod Liver Oil 2-3 times a week and more in the winter for several

years. I started krill oil two months ago for PMS. I used to have really

bad mood swings and just have a lot of anxiety during the last part of my

cycle prior to starting my period. (I know you aren't concerned about this,

- but someone else may be interested in this info.) Anyway, since

I've been taking krill oil the mood swings and anxiety are gone. Totally.

100%. I think it's something short of a miracle for that.

Somewhere I read that krill oil is better than clo as far as omega-3

absorption by your body because krill oil does not go rancid as quickly as

clo. Something having to do with phospholipids? So your body can use more

of the omegas in krill than in clo. But krill does not have the high

amounts of a and d.

Nanette

Opinions on Mercola's krill oil?

What do you folks think about the krill oil that Mercola promotes? I am

actually more curious

about it as an antioxidant than an omega-3 / vitamin A & D supplement (CLO

is far superior in

that department). Mercola claims that the astaxanthin and the " marine

flavanoid

antioxidants " contained in the krill oil are " the most bioavailable on the

market " . The

reference for that claim seems to come from the company itself so I don't

necessarily trust it.

Curious to know if anyone has looked into this further.

Chris

[Guest guest]

im very interested in seeing what others on this forum think about

Mercola's Krill Oil. i am a user. i do two softgels each morning. its

the only thing that i routinely purchase from his site. i have been

doing this for the past approx 1 year.

[Guest guest]

What results have you seen?

Kathy

---- benyokohama <hungjury@...> wrote:

> im very interested in seeing what others on this forum think about

> Mercola's Krill Oil. i am a user. i do two softgels each morning. its

> the only thing that i routinely purchase from his site. i have been

> doing this for the past approx 1 year.

[Guest guest]

The krill oil has no vitamin D, and only a little vit. A. But his brand now has

special " capliques " instead of gel caps, for a " superior delivery system " and

less chance of oxidation -- supposedly.

[Guest guest]

What is CRP and RA?

>

>

> >> The results of that study are impressive, though. CRP has been

implicated in heart disease

> and many other inflammatory conditions and auto-immune disease,

including RA.

>

> K.

>

[Guest guest]

CRP stands for C-reactive protein. CRP is one of the acute phase proteins that

increase

during systemic inflammation. It has been identified as a risk factor for heart

disease in

certain populations, and it also plays a role in other inflammatory conditions

such as

rheumatoid arthritis (RA) and possibly inflammatory bowel disease.

K.

> >

> >

> > >> The results of that study are impressive, though. CRP has been

> implicated in heart disease

> > and many other inflammatory conditions and auto-immune disease,

> including RA.

> >

> > K.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Aramburu " <mattandgina@...>

wrote:

>

> The krill oil has no vitamin D, and only a little vit. A. But his brand now

has special

" capliques " instead of gel caps, for a " superior delivery system " and less

chance of oxidation

-- supposedly.

Yes. It's not a substitute for CLO, but something that may complement it due to

its higher

antioxidant value and perhaps, as you point out, lower chance of oxidation. I

would have to

do more research before believing that one, however.

[Guest guest]

This thread on opinions of a particular commercial product begs a

question: do any moderators of this group censor opinions of

particular products or websites? I've run into that on the big

Alternative health group, which makes it useless as a source of honest

information (and the moderators won't even reply to me).

Joy

[Guest guest]

> Yes, it's difficult to know what the mechanism of action is here. Indeed,

> many, many studies

> demonstrate that EPA is anti-inflammatory.

I haven't read all the primary research on this, but if you look at

any biochem textbook, the explanation is not that EPA is

anti-inflammatory, but that it its byproducts are less inflammatory

that AA byproducts. EPA competes with AA for the metabolizing

enzymes, so it displaces the more inflammatory byproducts of AA.

Of course it is also true that EPA interferes with n-6 metabolism at

other levels, including depressing the synthesis of AA from LA.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Joy,

> This thread on opinions of a particular commercial product begs a

> question: do any moderators of this group censor opinions of

> particular products or websites? I've run into that on the big

> Alternative health group, which makes it useless as a source of honest

> information (and the moderators won't even reply to me).

No, but we have a rule against making commercial posts. In other

words, disucssion is fine, but posting links to web sites that only

sell things isn't. (Though sometimes it occurs in discussion where

the intent is obviously to facilitate the discussion rather than to

use the list for advertising, which is ok).

Chris

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your reply.

Joy

>

> Joy,

>

> > This thread on opinions of a particular commercial product begs a

> > question: do any moderators of this group censor opinions of

> > particular products or websites? I've run into that on the big

> > Alternative health group, which makes it useless as a source of honest

> > information (and the moderators won't even reply to me).

>

> No, but we have a rule against making commercial posts. In other

> words, disucssion is fine, but posting links to web sites that only

> sell things isn't. (Though sometimes it occurs in discussion where

> the intent is obviously to facilitate the discussion rather than to

> use the list for advertising, which is ok).

>

> Chris

>

[Guest guest]

Is there a particular biochem textbook you would recommend? I've been

wanting to do just what you suggest: read about the basic biochemical

properties and functions of the EFAs.

Thanks,

Chris