Re: Raw Dairy products and Candida Overgrowth?

[Guest guest]

I have mostly healed myself (controlled) of candida through the use of

kefir and other lactofermented foods and beverages. I do ferment

everything extra long so that there is no sugar left. For example, I

ferment dairy kefir for 1 day at room temp (2 in the winter) then at

least 5 days in the refrigerator. I use about 1/3 the normal amount of

sugar in water kefir and ferment that 2 days, strain and another 2 to 4

days. My kombucha is basically vinegar which I dilute with water

kefir. I ferment it about 3 weeks. In a nutshell, the organisms in

kefir and other ferments are able to displace Candida albicans from the

gut wall. You can never get totally rid of it. It is part of the

natural flora of the intestine. It is only a problem when it overgrows

and what most people eat today is feeding candida like giving spinach

to Popeye. I would not drink unfermented dairy. Cheese and butter

should be OK if you are getting plenty of probiotics from capsules or

more ideally, from foods. I know many people disagree with this, but

I'm living proof it works. Finances were extremely limited, I could

not afford supplements, so had to do it with food. For a little more

detail and some resources check out this article:

http://www.naturalnews.com/022822.html

Yes, I wrote it, but I did a ton of research.

Patty

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> I am trying to heal myself of candida overgrowth. Most candida diets

> forbid consuming any milk products. Is this necessary?

[Guest guest]

Check out www.healingnaturallybybee.com

Bee is an authority on candida.

Anne

[Guest guest]

Provided your body is breaking down lactose properly, I don't see any need

for you to avoid dairy due to candidasis. If you're taking enzymes that

contain lactase with meals... you should be fine.

You want the galacto-oligosaccharides found in dairy as they help select

more ideal microbes than other prebiotics, so fermented dairy may be more

beneficial (due to more GOS) - but that also depends on what bacteria the

dairy has been fermented with.

I'd have to say it depends on the cheese. If you have issues with fungus,

mold cheeses like camembert may be an issue. OTOH, some cheeses are only

fermented with bacteria. My nose has gotten quite sensitive in that I can

usually smell when a cheese contains fungi/mold - kinda musty...

One of many things that I've found helpful in the course of recolonizing my

gut is that you should start with the youngest cheeses first, to build up

your population of young bacteria before adding the older ones.

Theoretically, if your gut is turning off properly after each meal, the

bacteria in your gut are going into stasis (thanks to melatonin) and thus

don't get nearly as old as the bacteria found in a lot of cheese.

-Lana

" There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:30 PM, c688217 <c688217@...> wrote:

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> -Cheese including raw is usually shunned on anti-candida diets under

> the belief that things that are fermented with fungi feed fungi.

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> Thanks,

> Chris

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