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Is it something like tardive dyskinesia, or is it something different

or just not that severe? <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardive_dyskinesia

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> Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about tics? Not so much

> little muscle twitches - like a twitching eyelid, but more of a whole

> facial expression. What would cause a child to suddenly develop these

> after not having any previously? Is there a nutritional basis for any

> of this, or changes or additions that might help?

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i have a child that also has motor as well as vocal tics. have you looked into

PANDAS? was there any type of strep symptoms before the tics started?

 

changing our diet has helped my daughter some with tics but i am still working

on sorting things out and getting them cured once and for all!

 

make it a great day!

 

vicki~

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Subject: Re: Facial/motor tics

Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 9:04 AM

Is it something like tardive dyskinesia, or is it something different

or just not that severe? <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Tardive_dyskines ia

>

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> Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about tics? Not so much

> little muscle twitches - like a twitching eyelid, but more of a whole

> facial expression. What would cause a child to suddenly develop these

> after not having any previously? Is there a nutritional basis for any

> of this, or changes or additions that might help?

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Number of non-food, non-nutrition issues to consider.....for my Asperger's

son, it is sometimes anxiety-driven. Other times, it's a " stim " (which can

also be anxiety-based). In my nephew's case, it was Tourette Syndrome

which began when he was.....8? 9? 10? Can't remember exactly.......

First thing to do is chart it - when it occurs, what the antecedent is to

the " behavior " , stress level, etc. Age, diet, other underlying conditions,

medications, etc., are all helpful to consider. This is a tough one to

guess when there's so little information to go on.

Sharon

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> Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about tics? Not so much

> little muscle twitches - like a twitching eyelid, but more of a whole

> facial expression. What would cause a child to suddenly develop these

> after not having any previously? Is there a nutritional basis for any

> of this, or changes or additions that might help?

>

> Thanks

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He kinda wrinkles his nose - looks a bit like a rabbit. It's very

recent and he says he isn't aware he's doing it. He does get easily

stressed, and diet has been less than ideal lately.

i don't know how you decide what is a tic and what is just a 'bad

habit'. he goes through these phases though where he does something

like this and then suddenly stops, but before long, another movement

develops.

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> Is it something like tardive dyskinesia, or is it something different

> or just not that severe?

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardive_dyskinesia

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> > Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about tics? Not so much

> > little muscle twitches - like a twitching eyelid, but more of a whole

> > facial expression. What would cause a child to suddenly develop these

> > after not having any previously? Is there a nutritional basis for any

> > of this, or changes or additions that might help?

>

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My son has Tourette's Syndrome. It started with a similar tic when

he was around 7. With TS, it is typical for the tics to wax and wane.

If they've been around for over a year it could be TS.

Here is a TS forum: http://www.latitudes.org/forums/index.php?

showforum=1 There is more info on other tic disorders, and the

discussion is centered towards alternative treatments.

I hope you're not too worried. I know I was when my son started his

tics...so here's some compassion your way. :)

Blessings,

Jasmin

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> He kinda wrinkles his nose - looks a bit like a rabbit. It's very

> recent and he says he isn't aware he's doing it. He does get easily

> stressed, and diet has been less than ideal lately.

>

> i don't know how you decide what is a tic and what is just a 'bad

> habit'. he goes through these phases though where he does something

> like this and then suddenly stops, but before long, another movement

> develops.

>

> w--- In , Idol <paul.idol@>

wrote:

> >

> > Is it something like tardive dyskinesia, or is it something

different

> > or just not that severe?

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardive_dyskinesia

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> > > Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about tics? Not so

much

> > > little muscle twitches - like a twitching eyelid, but more of a

whole

> > > facial expression. What would cause a child to suddenly develop

these

> > > after not having any previously? Is there a nutritional basis

for any

> > > of this, or changes or additions that might help?

> >

> >

> >

> >

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What you're describing sounds like a habit. Sometimes kids start

something like that and then it becomes habit and they do it

unconsciously then. He may not remember/may be embarrassed to tell

you he started it on purpose.

It an also be magnesium deficiency; I think I read that magnesium

supplements would also cure tardive diskinesia.

Lyme can cause tics, twitches. I had an extremely annoying tic on my

cheek just below the eye for weeks on end from lyme. It seems

unlikely for that to be the only symptom, tho but if he's also having

trouble sleeping at night, tired during the day, stomach problems,

stiffness or soreness, headaches, etc. you might want to get him

checked.

Do try not to worry too much, tho. Kids do all kinds of weird things

then grow out of them again. They seem designed to keep you

scratching your head wondering what's going on??

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> > > Is it something like tardive dyskinesia, or is it something

> different

> > > or just not that severe?

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> > > > Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about tics? Not

so

> much

> > > > little muscle twitches - like a twitching eyelid, but more of

a

> whole

> > > > facial expression. What would cause a child to suddenly

develop

> these

> > > > after not having any previously? Is there a nutritional basis

> for any

> > > > of this, or changes or additions that might help?

> > >

> > >

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I have read about magnesium and twitches, too, but I was hesitant to

reply since I'm always harping about magnesium. . . .I get little

twitches by my eye when I'm low on calcium, too. Of course choline for

healthy nerve impulses wouldn't hurt; GABA can calm overactive nerves and

is the OTC Neurontin.

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I have read parasites might be the cause of tics, especially suddenly

developed ones. A friend of mine put her four yo on a parasite

cleanse (it was lots of pills and potions over the course of several

months- lots of bribing). He was dx on the autism spectrum, but

after the cleanse he normalized a lot. He wasn't exhibiting autistic

behaviors all the time, just when tired and then the tics began. The

parasite cleanse really helped him out.

Hope that helps,

Sal!

Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about tics? Not so much

little muscle twitches - like a twitching eyelid, but more of a whole

facial expression. What would cause a child to suddenly develop these

after not having any previously? Is there a nutritional basis for any

of this, or changes or additions that might help?

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I've heard that too - some autistic kid got parasites while

travelling abroad and while on the antiparisiticals he got pretty

normal, but whenever they discontinued them it returned. I've heard

that about artemisinin as well (separate case), which is an

antimalarial. Nothing about tics in those cases, tho.

>

> I have read parasites might be the cause of tics, especially

suddenly

> developed ones. A friend of mine put her four yo on a parasite

> cleanse (it was lots of pills and potions over the course of

several

> months- lots of bribing). He was dx on the autism spectrum, but

> after the cleanse he normalized a lot. He wasn't exhibiting

autistic

> behaviors all the time, just when tired and then the tics began.

The

> parasite cleanse really helped him out.

> Hope that helps,

> Sal!

>

> Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about tics? Not so

much

> little muscle twitches - like a twitching eyelid, but more of a

whole

> facial expression. What would cause a child to suddenly develop

these

> after not having any previously? Is there a nutritional basis for

any

> of this, or changes or additions that might help?

>

>

>

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