Re:Diabetes diet question

[Guest guest]

Hi Belinda,

My husband has type 2, and after many years of following the advice of doctors

and the American Diabetes Association, we have realized that they don't know

anything (they're still " practicing " medicine). Diabetics should avoid carbs,

period. It's not a good idea to rely on prescription medications to " cover " the

carbs a diabetic eats. So, sorry, but sugars are OUT. Replace sweets with small

portions of honey, agave syrup, or coconut. If he likes soda, replace with

Kombucha.

As for fats, animal fats are good, vegetable fats are bad. I do not recommend

this, but my husband, out of frustration with side effects, completely stopped

taking insulin, and eliminated refined carbs from his diet. His blood sugar has

actually dropped (though still a bit high), and his extra body weight is melting

off. I think he's lost about 35 pounds in 6 weeks. And this is on a menu of raw

milk, eggs, organic vegetables and small portions of fruit, kombucha, iced tea,

game meat, poultry, fish, and cheese.

Diabetes is a terrible disease, and I wish your friend the very best. No

matter how your friend chooses to change his diet, it requires a major lifestyle

change. I would suggest that a traditional diet is going to be much more to a

man's liking than the low-fat, medicated diabetic diet. The hard part is

convincing a person to deviate from the instructions of the " experts. "

Kari

[Guest guest]

I understand that sugars are out but we are starting with 3 heaping

teaspoons in each cup of coffee and at least 6 cups a day, 5-6 cans of

soft drinks, sweet (really sweet) ice tea. Convinced this fella that

he should eat more fruit so he buys fruit canned in heavy syrup and

adds 2-3 teaspoons of sugar to the can before he eats the fruit.

Methinks it will be a long road to kombucha!

Animal fats and meat are not a problem there's plenty of that, it is

the sugar addiction that will be difficult.

Thanks for your words of encouragement.

Belinda

>

> Hi Belinda,

>

> My husband has type 2, and after many years of following the

advice of doctors and the American Diabetes Association, we have

realized that they don't know anything (they're still " practicing "

medicine). Diabetics should avoid carbs, period. It's not a good idea

to rely on prescription medications to " cover " the carbs a diabetic

eats. So, sorry, but sugars are OUT. Replace sweets with small

portions of honey, agave syrup, or coconut. If he likes soda, replace

with Kombucha.

>

> As for fats, animal fats are good, vegetable fats are bad. I do

not recommend this, but my husband, out of frustration with side

effects, completely stopped taking insulin, and eliminated refined

carbs from his diet. His blood sugar has actually dropped (though

still a bit high), and his extra body weight is melting off. I think

he's lost about 35 pounds in 6 weeks. And this is on a menu of raw

milk, eggs, organic vegetables and small portions of fruit, kombucha,

iced tea, game meat, poultry, fish, and cheese.

>

> Diabetes is a terrible disease, and I wish your friend the very

best. No matter how your friend chooses to change his diet, it

requires a major lifestyle change. I would suggest that a traditional

diet is going to be much more to a man's liking than the low-fat,

medicated diabetic diet. The hard part is convincing a person to

deviate from the instructions of the " experts. "

>

> Kari

[Guest guest]

Very low-carb diets do not even include fruits and milk. My husband

basically eats meat and vegetables. He can have good fats, some

nuts, cheese, plain unsugared coffee and tea. He's added kombucha

and it hasn't affected his blood sugar negatively.

All sugar is poison to a diabetic. Even artificial sweeteners are

counterproductive. Stevia would be the only sweetener recommended

but usually can't be used as a direct sugar replacement.

It will be a change and a commitment for your husband, but consider

the consequences of not changing.

-Patty

>

> I understand that sugars are out but we are starting with 3 heaping

> teaspoons in each cup of coffee and at least 6 cups a day, 5-6 cans

of

> soft drinks, sweet (really sweet) ice tea. Convinced this fella that

> he should eat more fruit so he buys fruit canned in heavy syrup and

> adds 2-3 teaspoons of sugar to the can before he eats the fruit.

> Methinks it will be a long road to kombucha!

>

> Animal fats and meat are not a problem there's plenty of that, it is

> the sugar addiction that will be difficult.

>

> Thanks for your words of encouragement.

>

> Belinda

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Belinda!

I know it's not easy. I was addicted to about 64 ounces + of Coca Colas

daily plus a super carb heavy diet and plenty of sugar. In 2001 a

friend showed me an article on the Lipid Hypothesis and then the WAPF

website. I started cutting out the sodas first and i did try to go

moderate but it doesn't work. One taste and you want more, and when the

blood sugar goes nuts you eat up eating tons of carbs.

What i had to do was replace the sodas with mineral waters (sparkling)

and i would mix in a bit of juice for flavor. Still sugar but not the

level i was experiencing.

I then started cutting other things out one by one. i think i may still

need to go off wheat gluten and I'm not wanting to at all.

It took me about a year i think to get off the sodas completely and not

succumb when i was forced around them. now i don't even want them when

i see others with them and i have discovered a sweetness to foods and

beverages i once thought were bitter or tasteless or gross. It is

amazing!! A whole new world opened up to me!!

I would recommend for him to try maybe switching to raw honey for the

coffee at first and then to stevia. I made myself go with no sweetener

at all and it took some getting used to but now i think any sweetener is

too sweet in it. I also buy a better quality, organic and fair trade

coffee as the quality of the coffee makes it easier to forgo all that

sugar. We use sugar to cover up the nastiness of cheap brands we buy

sometimes.

Also watch those condiments!! Now that i realize i am allergic to corn

syrup and it was 90% responsible for my IBD i find that i was consuming

SO MUCH even when i thought i was being good. Ketchup, BBQ Sauce, some

mustards, mayo (store brands), pickles... it's unbelievable what all

it's in and it causes my blood sugar to spike so much worse than sugar

too right before i start puking. =) My liver can't stand corn syrup now

and won't tolerate it anymore so i get very ill.

Good luck! You are already so far ahead of my mom who has diabetes II

and had that gastric bypass done only to train her stomach to tolerate

sugar again and so the 4 oz she can fit in there are mostly cookies,

cakes, candy and well you get the picture. =(

labelleacres wrote:

>

> I understand that sugars are out but we are starting with 3 heaping

> teaspoons in each cup of coffee and at least 6 cups a day, 5-6 cans of

> soft drinks, sweet (really sweet) ice tea. Convinced this fella that

> he should eat more fruit so he buys fruit canned in heavy syrup and

> adds 2-3 teaspoons of sugar to the can before he eats the fruit.

> Methinks it will be a long road to kombucha!

>

> Animal fats and meat are not a problem there's plenty of that, it is

> the sugar addiction that will be difficult.

>

> Thanks for your words of encouragement.

>

> Belinda

>

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R*_EVOL_*UTION!! – www.campaignforliberty.com <www.Campaignforliberty.com>

[Guest guest]

Hi Belinda!

I know it's not easy. I was addicted to about 64 ounces + of Coca Colas

daily plus a super carb heavy diet and plenty of sugar. In 2001 a

friend showed me an article on the Lipid Hypothesis and then the WAPF

website. I started cutting out the sodas first and i did try to go

moderate but it doesn't work. One taste and you want more, and when the

blood sugar goes nuts you eat up eating tons of carbs.

What i had to do was replace the sodas with mineral waters (sparkling)

and i would mix in a bit of juice for flavor. Still sugar but not the

level i was experiencing.

I then started cutting other things out one by one. i think i may still

need to go off wheat gluten and I'm not wanting to at all.

It took me about a year i think to get off the sodas completely and not

succumb when i was forced around them. now i don't even want them when

i see others with them and i have discovered a sweetness to foods and

beverages i once thought were bitter or tasteless or gross. It is

amazing!! A whole new world opened up to me!!

I would recommend for him to try maybe switching to raw honey for the

coffee at first and then to stevia. I made myself go with no sweetener

at all and it took some getting used to but now i think any sweetener is

too sweet in it. I also buy a better quality, organic and fair trade

coffee as the quality of the coffee makes it easier to forgo all that

sugar. We use sugar to cover up the nastiness of cheap brands we buy

sometimes.

Also watch those condiments!! Now that i realize i am allergic to corn

syrup and it was 90% responsible for my IBD i find that i was consuming

SO MUCH even when i thought i was being good. Ketchup, BBQ Sauce, some

mustards, mayo (store brands), pickles... it's unbelievable what all

it's in and it causes my blood sugar to spike so much worse than sugar

too right before i start puking. =) My liver can't stand corn syrup now

and won't tolerate it anymore so i get very ill.

Good luck! You are already so far ahead of my mom who has diabetes II

and had that gastric bypass done only to train her stomach to tolerate

sugar again and so the 4 oz she can fit in there are mostly cookies,

cakes, candy and well you get the picture. =(

labelleacres wrote:

>

> I understand that sugars are out but we are starting with 3 heaping

> teaspoons in each cup of coffee and at least 6 cups a day, 5-6 cans of

> soft drinks, sweet (really sweet) ice tea. Convinced this fella that

> he should eat more fruit so he buys fruit canned in heavy syrup and

> adds 2-3 teaspoons of sugar to the can before he eats the fruit.

> Methinks it will be a long road to kombucha!

>

> Animal fats and meat are not a problem there's plenty of that, it is

> the sugar addiction that will be difficult.

>

> Thanks for your words of encouragement.

>

> Belinda

>

--

dawn@... <mailto:dawn@...>

R*_EVOL_*UTION!! – www.campaignforliberty.com <www.Campaignforliberty.com>

[Guest guest]

>

> What i had to do was replace the sodas with mineral waters (sparkling)

> and i would mix in a bit of juice for flavor. Still sugar but not the

> level i was experiencing.

Eliminating soda and juice is definitely the biggest way to reduce

sugar in the diet. It makes a huge difference, and it doesn't seem

nearly as bad as giving up dessert.

I weaned myself off sugar using chocolate. I started with 70% cocoa

but you could start with milk chocolate if you want. Just work your

way up to 100% baking chocolate. It sounds crazy, but your body can

get used to any amount of sugar, and as you reduce it, things taste

sweeter.

> I then started cutting other things out one by one. i think i may still

> need to go off wheat gluten and I'm not wanting to at all.

Good luck - remember, gluten can be addictive too! Going extremely

low-carb actually made eliminating gluten easier for me. You can wean

yourself with specialty gluten-free baked goods, but I don't recommend

it long-term. Use the expense as an excuse to cut back.

I hung onto potato chips for a long time. Potato chips have a good

deal of fat, so the glycemic index is lower than many carby snacks.

Plain potato chips are free of gluten and lots of other forms of

processed junk. You can't get a better junk food unless you eat pork

rinds -- and they taste way better than rice cakes!

> I would recommend for him to try maybe switching to raw honey for the

> coffee at first and then to stevia.

I'm not a coffee drinker, but when I used to drink coffee, I found

that heavy cream was a much better way to cut the bitterness than

sweetener.

> Also watch those condiments!! Now that i realize i am allergic to corn

> syrup and it was 90% responsible for my IBD i find that i was consuming

> SO MUCH even when i thought i was being good. Ketchup, BBQ Sauce, some

> mustards, mayo (store brands), pickles...

And it's not just corn syrup - gluten, MSG, food coloring,

preservatives - many condiments are full of junk! Don't tell the guy,

but I had to switch to all home-made condiments. He could try fish

sauce. It's possible to get pretty simple mustard. Mayonnaise is often

pretty low-carb, but I can't handle the MSG in it.

> Good luck! You are already so far ahead of my mom who has diabetes II

> and had that gastric bypass done only to train her stomach to tolerate

> sugar again and so the 4 oz she can fit in there are mostly cookies,

> cakes, candy and well you get the picture. =(

I'm so sorry! That's awful. We're always trying to talk people out of

that surgery.

Mike