Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Dear group: The idea behind this blog is to give those of you that are following what I am saying on the Internet some good reading material, as well as introduce you to four of the book sources " for what I know " about the correction of depression naturally. My point in doing such is to give those of you that are following what I am saying something to look at while the blog that I have promised you in " A coming blog further explaining the use of free form amino acids " is being written over the next month or two. When I first started taking free amino acids in 1997, I had two books which really helped me, as far as giving me ideas of what nutritional supplements to use and/or how to use them. These two books were " The Way Up From Down " by Priscilla Slagle, M.D. and " Prescription for Nutritional Healing " by Balch, M.D. and Phyllis Balch, C.N.C. (I had the second edition of this latter book, which was copyrighted 1997.) I would first like to introduce you today " the fundamental book " containing knowledge about free form amino acids that I used; the one that I feel would be " of the most use " to those of you that are just beginning to learn about the correction of depression naturally. The first book that I read in regard to using free form amino acids was " The Way Up From Down " by Dr. Priscilla Slagle. This is also the first book that I recommend that you read as well, assuming that you are considering the use of free form amino acids to treat depression in yourself, and you are not " too depressed to read " at the moment. This six dollar (when I bought it) paperback taught me a great deal, despite the fact that it was first published in 1987. This book is conceptually brilliant. It was way ahead of its time when it was written, and many of this book's " great new truths " are still very valid and germane today. (Admittedly, some of this book's information and supplement suggestions are a bit obsolete as well. Despite this, I still highly recommend this book.) One does not even have to purchase the above-mentioned book today to read it. Dr. Slagle has been giving away a free copy of this book over the Internet for years on her website http://www.thewayup.com/. All you have to do is download it; it is completely no charge, and there are not even any forms that you have to fill out to get it. Incidentally, the subtitle of this book is " A Safe New Program That Relieves Low Moods and Depression with Amino Acids and Vitamin Supplements " . This book most assuredly debunks the myth perpetuated by Big Pharma that antidepressants are the best, if not only, way to change one's neurotransmitter levels. In this book, Dr. Slagle explains in a very understandable fashion the nutrient basis of some key neurotransmitters such as dopamine and serotonin. She also explains how to change such neurotransmitters by orally taking their nutrient precursors, along with some vitamin and mineral cofactors as well. Despite this book's age, and despite the fact that balanced broad based free form amino acids (similar to what my son Willy uses) is a much better healing modality than the use of certain individual amino acids, as Dr. Slagle recommends, I still consider this book a " must read book " for ANY person that is beginning to use free form amino acids in order to correct their " mood " in some way. A little bit about my personal experience with free form amino acids: As a result of reading " The Way Up From Down " , and reading the amino acid section of the book " Prescription for Nutritional Healing " (in order to find all of the inhibitory amino acids that I could) in the fall of 1997 I was taking 1.5 grams of tryptophan, 1.5 grams of taurine, 1.5 grams of GABA (some say glutamine might be a wise substitution here), and 2.5 grams of glycine, along with vitamin B complex (50 mg.) and vitamin C (3,000 mg.), and a little of a calcium/magnesium/vitamin D preparation for inhibition and to go to sleep. This was my original " night-time cocktail " of nutrients for sleep. It was also the same " nutrient cocktail " that allowed me to beat an almost eighteen month month addiction to Klonopin rather effortlessly in about a month beginning in August of 1997. In the fall of 1997, and as a result of what Dr. Slagle taught me, I also began taking a tyrosine and phenylalanine combination (along with B complex and vitamin C) for its excitatory effect. ( " Excitatory " essentially means " antidepressant " here; these two words are virtually interchangeable in the copy I am writing.) I used this tyrosine/phenylalanine combination of excitatory amino acids on a regular basis for about two and a half years until I learned " better " in this regard. In the book " Prescription for Nutritional Healing " , Balch, M.D. and Phyllis Balch, C.N.C. often suggested " better " in regard to amino acid use; they often suggested the use of " free form amino acid complex " for a number of conditions, to include manic depressive disorder, malabsorption syndrome, and alcoholism. The phrase " free form amino acid complex " and " broad based amino acids " both essentially mean the same thing; the latter just being my simplified wording of what Dr. Balch is saying. Dr. Balch gave me the idea for using broad based amino acids way back in the fall 1997, when I first read his book. It just " took me a few years to get it " as far as what Dr. Balch was saying. It also took me some time to find an affordable amino acid source for the rather substantial dosages of broad based free form amino acids that I was soon taking, and felt a personal need for. (Later, I learned about this same idea of using broad based amino acids in other books that I read on amino acids; such as " The Amino Revolution " by Erdmann, which I read sometime in late 1997 or early 1998. I simply got the idea of using broad based amino acids from Dr. Balch first, as a result of when I read his book vs. books written by other persons.) Oddly, although Dr. Balch saw the need for broad based amino acids for manic depression, he missed the need for free form amino acid complex for depression. Dr. Balch apparently does not understand how to treat a severe state of depression properly, as broad based amino acids ALWAYS indicated when attempting to properly treat serious and/or longstanding depression. Nor does Dr. Balch understand the need for " patient selected dosages " as being the proper approach as far as free form amino acid use is concerned. (The person actually taking free form amino acids of any sort is the " best person " in which to determine the proper dosages that are needed in order to " get the healing job done " , and done without suffering any unnecessary adverse effect.) I did not act on Dr. Balch's insight in regard to using broad based free form amino acids until February 2000. In part, this delay was due to the fact that my experience with using tyrosine/phenylalanine on a repetitive basis was so successful that for a few years I did not feel the need to look for " better " than what I was already doing. Eventually I found that when under " prolonged stress " for quite some time, the tyrosine/phenylalanine combination that I had been using for a few years on a regular basis was simply not adequate enough for me in regard to " keeping up my brain and body chemistry up to par " , such that I was not depressed. (I began to attend college in January of 2000, at the age of 47. I also had bought and was fixing up an older house for a number of months just prior to this, right after a longstanding and rather " nasty " divorce battle. This is the " prolonged stress " that I am referring to here.) In February 2000 I learned how to adequately balance free form amino acids by combining two " stock amino acid blends " and some individual amino acids until I found a mixture which worked well for me. I did this simply by " feel " , by using some logic and common sense, and by " dosing up " slowly until adequate therapeutic effect was achieved. I also learned experientially at this same time about the need to include carnitine and phosphatidyl choline when taking any " decent-sized dose " of broad based free form amino acids, or I would not feel nearly as good from taking them, and was likely to get a serious headache as well. (Acetylcholine, a major neurotransmitter carnitine and phosphatidyl choline seem to be involved with nutrient-wise, appears to me to be " a necessary buffering chemical " for free form amino acids in the brain.) " Better " for me than using a tyrosine/phenylalanine combination for excitatory effect was using an adequate therapeutic dose (for myself) of balanced broad based free form amino acids in the morning, along with carnitine, phosphatidyl choline, and at least the water soluble vitamins of vitamin B complex and vitamin C (if not often with a multi-vitamin and multi-mineral preparation as well). From February 2000 until late 2002 (when my money finally ran out), I commonly used 25 to 50 grams of broad based free form amino acids taken " all at once " in the morning soon after I woke up. I was literally taking handfuls of amino acid capsules, along with what I felt were needed nutrient cofactors, and a large glass of room temperature spring water... and doing so with very profound positive effect. (I have taken 25 to 50 gram broad based free form amino acid supplementation many hundreds of times... whenever I could afford such, even after my access to any substantial money ran out in late 2002. It has helped me enormously, as well as taught me a great deal. Broad based amino acid supplementation such as this is responsible for the majority of my aggregate intake of over 100,000 free form amino capsules since 1997.) When taking broad based amino acids I often, but certainly not always, combined this supplementation with a non-allergic (for me) " green shake " ; one in which I made in a blender with fresh pineapple or fresh papaya, and spring or distilled water. (Doing this on a repetitive " off and on basis " over the years was how I learned " amino acids and greens go well together " .) I also commonly took a number of vitamin and mineral supplements at the same time I supplemented with broad based free form amino acids and this " green shake " as well. (I now realize that is is wise to take the entire nutrient range all at once, as Adelle stated almost four decades ago, and as my son Willy " proved " is the right thing to do.) In August 2004, as a result of my son Willy insisting on my combining all of the supplements that he needed to take so that he could take them " all at once " (with the exception of probiotics, which he took separately), I learned " even better " as far as the correction of depression in myself was concerned. " Even better " than my older approach of using 25 to 50 gram dosages of broad based amino acids, along with some needed nutrient cofactors (as discussed above) is my son Willy's baggie approach, which I now primarily use (when I can afford such), along with whatever adequate " gut corrective measures " that I need to use as well, such that the nutrients in Willy's baggie are not negated by a " much too toxic " , " overly plugged up " , and/or malabsorptive gut. A little bit about the " gut " , its relationship to depression, and/or where I learned such: Oddly, the first big breakthrough that I stumbled into " for all humanity " in regard to the treatment of depression did not involve the use of free form amino acids at all. This breakthrough, which first occurred in August of 1999, used concepts from Dr. Sherry in regard " gut correction " . Dr. book " Depression Cured At Last " proposed an " 8 R " method of gut correction; eight specific steps that needed to be taken, all of which began with a word starting with the letter " R " . One of these eight steps was " Removal " of the present contents of the gut. And one of these eight steps involved " Replacement " (or " Replenishment " , I am not quite sure which) of one's gut flora. In August of 1999, I learned that the " adequate removal " of the pre-existing contents in my gut was " A FOUNDATION STEP " in order for me to correct a state of severe depression in myself. It so turns out that one's pre-existing gut contents has a huge effect on one's mood... and that this is especially true when one is chronically depressed. (I actually knowingly risked my life in order to learn this lesson in regard to the removal of my gut contents being key for me in order to resolve a serious state of depression in myself. Without dosing up slowly for safety purposes, I did something " gut purge-wise " that would have put many persons in the hospital, if not killed a number of them as well. This gamble, one that I DO NOT RECOMMEND OTHERS DO, paid off in spades... and taught me a ton about how to properly correct a depressive state in myself. I will tell this story in much greater detail in another blog fairly soon.) Worthy of mention here is that it turns out that the first person that really " taught us all " about the need to remove the toxic contents in the gut, as well as the need to control bowel transit time by eating properly, and the fact that the contents of the gut often " poisons us " (this is called autointoxication) was a fellow named Bernard Jensen, in his classic book called " Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel Management " . This is the fourth book that I highly recommend you read, and follow its suggestions, if you suffer from either depression or its " twin sister illness " called bipolar disorder. Bernard Jensen was a " true pioneer " of alternative medical truth, just as Dr.'s Slagle, , and Balch were. Indeed, I am almost certain that all of these three doctors learned a great deal from Bernard Jensen, just as I and millions of other persons did. (It may help many persons to read this book prior to reading " Depression Cured At Last " by Sherry , as things may make more sense and be more understandable if these books are read in this order.) In August of 1999, also learned that adequate " Replacement " of my gut flora, when it was awry, was " ANOTHER FOUNDATION STEP " in order for me to properly correct severe depression in myself. Straightening out one's gut flora can, almost all on it's own, have a profound effect on depression, but this is too long of a story for me to tell here. The best that I can do for you, the reader of this document, is introduce to you " my greatest teacher " in this regard; Dr. Sherry . Besides Dr. Priscilla Slagle, Dr. Balch, and Bernard Jensen, Dr. is the fourth " conceptually brilliant author " that I learned from in regard to the correction of depression in myself. My most commonly used gut correction to treat a state of mild depressive state in myself is either (1) a " fiber purge " with a two or three decent sized apples, or my eating a substantial portion of some other fibrous fruits or vegetables, or (2) a psyllium purge. Both (1) or (2) are taken an hour or two prior to my taking any nutritional supplements, which allows adequate time for my stomach to empty, such that either of these " fiber purges " are heading down my intestines, rather than still being in my stomach where they started out. My most commonly used gut correction to treat a state of severe depression in myself is a bentonite and psyllium purge similar to what is suggested on www.curezone.com. Bentonite and psyllium does purge far more than just pysllium alone. I ALWAYS insure that I do this bentonite and psyllium purge on an empty stomach... and I always wait at least a few hours, if not more, for this bentonite and psyllium purge to be out of my stomach, and headed down my small intestines, before I take any nutritional supplements or food. I use a bentonite and psyllium purge whenever my " gut is real bad off " . By my mood, and by other indicators such as excessive bloating, I can make a very accurate judgment in this regard. (Curezone calls a bentonite and psyllium purge a " P and B shake " .) FOUNDATION STEPS TO CORRECT SEVERE DEPRESSION; as well as a few more that are critical in this regard: The concept of the adequate removal of one's gut (GI tract) contents being A FOUNDATION STEP to properly correct a serious depressive state applies to MILLIONS of persons that are severely depressed; it certainly applies to the vast majority of them. The concept of the proper replacement of one's gut flora being A FOUNDATION STEP to properly correct a serious depressive state applies to MILLIONS of persons that are severely depressed; it certainly applies to the vast majority of them. The concept of using broad based amino acids for a substantial portion of one's protein intake being A FOUNDATION STEP to properly correct a serious depressive state applies to MILLIONS of persons that are severely depressed; it certainly applies to the vast majority of them. The concept of using carnitine and phosphatidyl choline when taking an adequate therapeutic dose of broad based amino acids being critical to properly correct a serious depressive state applies to MILLIONS of persons that are severely depressed; it certainly applies to the vast majority of them. And lastly, the concept of using a very wide range of vitamin and mineral cofactors when taking an adequate therapeutic dose of broad based amino acids being critical to properly correct a serious depressive state applies to MILLIONS of persons that are severely depressed as well; it certainly applies to the vast majority of them. Perhaps needless to say, conventional medicine ignores all of the above, and opts to treat depression with drugs and only drugs, simply for the sake of the money. These people should all be held accountable in a court of law some day. How many persons that they have hurt, and how many they have killed?... all for the sake of the money that they are making in manufacturing, selling, and prescribing toxic antidepressant medications. Conclusion If someone is interested in reading two authors that are very germane in regard to the proper correction of depression and manic depression, one would be wise to read Dr. Priscilla Slagle, and Dr. Sherry vs. many other authors on these particular topics. Why these authors vs. some others? I recommend these doctors and their books due to the fact that both of these doctors are " true pioneers " in alternative medicine. Both of these doctors postulated original thought vs. simply copying the ideas of others. Dr. Slagle " first introduced " the use of free form amino acids to the general public for the correction of depression. And Dr. " first well defined " the myriad of common problems that exist in the gut, and underlie depression, for the general public as well. In addition to this, Dr. also was " first " to " accurately propose how to correct these common gut problems " (in her " 8 R " program of gut correction). I recommend these doctors and their books for a second reason as well. This reason is that both of these doctors actually suffered from depression themselves. I cannot imagine a non-depressed person really knowing in a deep heartfelt way about the true causes and best corrections of depression, no matter how many medical degrees that they had, unless they suffered from depression themselves. And I most certainly cannot imagine a non-depressed person, doctor or not, " figuring out any original truth " of depression and its best treatments, unless it had already been figured out first by others (such that one could learn from these others by reading their books). It is no accident that in one book that I read years ago Dr. Slagle spoke very highly of Dr. written work. And in another book that I read years ago Dr. spoke very highly of Dr. Slagle. These two authors both appreciated what they had learned from each other. And out of all of the authors that I have read on the topic of how to correct depression naturally, I have appreciated these two authors the most... as well as found their ideas and insight of great use to me over time. I do not mean to diminish the two other authors that I have introduced you to here. If you suffer from depression, I consider reading and/or understanding what Bernard Jensen has to say in his books " a must " if you wish to become and remain well, and Dr. Balch has a few good ideas here as well. However, the two Dr.'s mentioned, Slagle and , represent the best two authors in existence specific to the topic of depression, or at least this is my opinion. What I have learned about the correction of depression and manic depression represents a major upgrade to what both Dr. Slagle and Dr. have proposed for the same. I simply built on their pre-existing original knowledge, using myself as " a guinea pig for the world " . However, I most certainly have to thank Dr. Priscilla Slagle and Dr. Sherry for what they taught me. Without BOTH of them (as well as other key authors such as Dr. Balch and Bernard Jensen), I would not have gotten anywhere close knowledge-wise to where I am today. If the world ever becomes wise enough to couple what Dr. Slagle taught all of us in her book " The Way Up From Down " , with what Dr. taught all of us in " Depression Cured At Last " , and then becomes wise enough to couple these two authors with what I am trying to tell it as well... the entire class of antidepressant medications would virtually collapse overnight. In my mind, Dr. Sherry should win the Nobel Prize for her landmark piece of written work titled " Depression Cured At Last " . If not, she should co-win it with Priscilla Slagle, M.D., and myself, as the three of us have conceptually, if not in a practical sense as well, resolved the proper correction of depression (in most so afflicted) for the entire human race. Darman An addendum: Unfortunately, as much as I have been getting harassed by hackers over the Internet since June 2006, it appears Big Pharma is fully aware of what is going on in the above-mentioned regards. And unfortunately, no party with adequate means to effect change has yet supported or acted on what I have to say. Big Pharma most certainly realizes that what I have discovered about the proper treatment of depression spells doom for the antidepressant class of medications. They also know that what I know about natural healing spells doom for other classes of medications as well. And lastly, they know that what I know about natural healing spells doom for the general public's faith in their entire industry as well. I don't even care if I am totally plagiarized here without getting any credit for any of my original discoveries whatsoever. I would just hate to see Big Pharma win. I have no self seeking agenda. Indeed, as a result of being hacked so much, using so many different computers since June 2006, and even being hacking using various computers in different public libraries, I am not in denial that " Big Pharma has become aware of me " ... and that I may " end up dead for what I know " . I sincerely hope that I have enough time, and can find adequate means, to complete what I have to say to the world (finish an organized and cohesive book). And I sincerely hope that I can finish this book before free form amino acids (and other critical nutritional supplements) are legally taken off the market, as a result of Big Pharma bribing the FDA and our lawmakers in order to protect its profits and sales. Big Pharma knows that it is virtually doomed, with a storm of class action litigation to follow shortly thereafter... if what I know about depression and manic depression ever fully reaches the light of day. Dr. Priscilla Slagle's website is: http://www.thewayup.com/ Dr. Sherry website is: http://prestigepublishing.com/ Bernard Jensen's and Dr. Balch's books can be found on Amazon.com. Some blogs that are related to this one somewhat and/or may be useful to the reader in some way are: Natural Treatment of Depression and Willy's Baggie http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=68 Depression and Bipolar Disorder - Cured At Last! http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=255 One of Willy's " baggies " of supplements... Wow! http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=23 Baggie number two kicked in.... Wow again! http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=25 An Anecdotal Case; Depression Resolved in One Day http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=243 Willy's Three Year ADHD/Bipolar Recovery Story http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=235 My Bipolar Recovery Story as of June 2004 http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=72 Bentonite, Depression, and How The Gut May Work http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=26 Bentonite, vitamin C, and yeast die off http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=16 Willy's Baggie Ingredient List http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=64 A more detailed explanation of Willy's baggie http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=77 The Neurotransmitter Precursor Group of Nutrients in Willy's Baggie; and their cost http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=307 Adelle ; a true pioneer http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=262 Introducing the Concept of a " Healing House " http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=252 An egroup post on using lithium vs. raising acetylcholine http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=301 Taurine and other inhibitory nutrients http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=302 Two egroup posts on inhibitory nutrients written in 2003 http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=260 GABA vs. Glutamine http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=304 An old speech draft on bipolar disorder; still a worthy read http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=303 ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Greetings Wonderful info as always . I would hope that all of us would read the warnings that has given and be our own best Dr. I have the Dr. Jensen's book on a PDF. I send it our on a CD along with other things. I can send the PDF to those that can handle it...it is big! Email me and put Dr. PDF in the subject line...Please do that, I get a ton of spam and you could be deleted if it is not done in that manner. nieema0@... NieeMA Tomorrows Health Starts Today Count on it Now!!! Discover our bodies ability to heal it self. I was diabetic Now I am not. I count on FrequenSea, the planets " mothers milk " http://totalhealthnaturally.com The worlds safest Energy Drink!!! Where Energy and Health Collide http://energyjustgothealthy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Nieema, is this something I should have? depression is getting worse>and so is the itching, Can that be a die off, Or if I get to warm, I will itch , does any one else have the itching and white spots in there body?? Or if I take something to kill Yeast, which I don't have much left?? Sharon J. at srjerdee@... Re: My free form amino acid and gut " depression knowledge " ; where did it come from? > Greetings > > Wonderful info as always . > > I would hope that all of us would read the warnings that has given > and be our own best Dr. > > I have the Dr. Jensen's book on a PDF. I send it our on a CD along with > other things. > > I can send the PDF to those that can handle it...it is big! > Email me and put Dr. PDF in the subject line...Please do that, I get a ton > of spam and you could be deleted if it is not done in that manner. > nieema0@... > > NieeMA > > > Tomorrows Health Starts Today Count on it Now!!! > Discover our bodies ability to heal it self. > I was diabetic Now I am not. I count on > FrequenSea, the planets " mothers milk " > http://totalhealthnaturally.com > The worlds safest Energy Drink!!! > Where Energy and Health Collide > http://energyjustgothealthy.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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