Candida, tongues, and mental illness

[Guest guest]

Dear group:

There are some really insightful posts being made on Curezone in the

" depression alternatives to medication " and " bipolar disorder " support

forums. What follows is " a GREAT! slice " from one of these posts.

This slice strongly suggests a link between candida, tongue evidence

of candida, and mental illness.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1246920 or " a portion of such as

can be seen below " .

My attitudes on candida, its proper resolution, and " mental illness "

(a true misnomer " ) are as follows:

1. What a scam the current medical model represents... it assists

people to get candida by prescribing antibiotics, and then makes money

on treating their resultant " mental illnesses " with drugs... while

ignoring obvious evidence of candida on the tongue at the same time.

2. It should be " STANDARD PRACTICE " for ALL doctors that treat ANY

MENTAL ILLNESS WHATSOEVER to check for evidence of candida on the

tongue. Jees, how long would that take? What would be the cost-benefit

ratio for " this little doctor time " (10 seconds perhaps, including the

explanation of " stick out your tongue, I want to examine it? " ) to

check for candida by a tongue examination? It sure would not take

long. Cost of materials would not be high; the cost of one tongue

depressor (a wooden stick).

3. It should also be " STANDARD PRACTICE " for ALL doctors that treat

ANY MENTAL ILLNESS WHATSOEVER to check for evidence of candida by the

use of " a standard yeast questionnaire " , one that could be found on

the Internet perhaps. How long would evaluation of a yeast

questionnaire filled out by the patient in the waiting room ahead of

time take? This evaluation would take a few seconds to look at the

yeast questionnaire results perhaps. Cost of materials would not be

high; a few sheets of paper and a little ink out of a pen. What would

be the cost-benefit ratio of " this little doctor time " (a few seconds

to read yeast questionnaire test scores), and a few sheets of paper,

to check for the probability of candida in this manner?

4. It should also be " STANDARD PRACTICE " for ALL doctors that treat

ANY MENTAL ILLNESS WHATSOEVER to tell ALL of their patients about how

to do a candida " spit test', and how to interpret the results. A " spit

test " takes no money (a glass of water and some " spit " ), and is done

at home. It takes so little time, and it can often " tell so much " .

What would be the cost-benefit ratio to check for the probability of

candida in this manner?

5. And most important thus far... it should be " STANDARD PRACTICE " for

ALL doctors that treat ANY MENTAL ILLNESS WHATSOEVER to tell ALL of

their patients that they probably have some degree of a problematic

yeast called candida, and to begin to educate them about this. A

handout for the patient to take home with them containing accurate

information in regard to dealing with candida in themselves would most

certainly be appropriate. This handout should include a list of " the

best websites " on the Internet for candida information as well. In

this way, the patient can learn about candida and its proper

resolution... and learn about it " at their own convenience " , and " at

their own speed " , while in the comfort of their own home.

Why shouldn't our doctors do give us written and accurate information

about candida when we go see them? What do they want to do, " spoon

feed those of us that have candida " this knowledge verbally at " great

cost per hour " ? " That's nuts! " especially because the best information

about candida and its proper resolution is " found on the Internet for

free " , or " found in books for minimal cost " .

6. It should also be " STANDARD PRACTICE " for ALL doctors that treat

ANY MENTAL ILLNESS WHATSOEVER to tell ALL of their patients that they

probably have multiple hidden food allergies, a lack of digestive

enzymes, and perhaps other serious malabsorptive or toxic issues as

well. ALL patients should be similarly empowered with accurate

knowledge, just as they were with candida. Why? Because these

allergic, malabsorptive, and toxic issues are best dealt with at home.

Indeed, home is the only place they are really dealt with effectively.

And no doctor is going to follow you home. You need to learn how to

deal with this stuff by yourself. This is what my " educational healing

house idea " is all about.

In ignoring the many truths in the above, doctors and psychiatrists,

either conventional or otherwise (alternative) are simply " roadblocks

to self-administered healing occurring " ... and SELF-ADMINISTERED

HEALING (done at home) " IS THE BEST " (just ask my son Willy about this).

Conclusion

The above points all represent " good health knowledge " . This " good

health knowledge " is " knowledge that " the doctors are WITHHOLDING from

us " , simply for the sake of the money.

Who needs the doctors anyway? The Internet, and " good alternative

medicine books " , are BOTH empowering us with " good health knowledge " ;

and KNOWLEDGE THAT WE CAN USE TO CURE OURSELVES AT HOME.

Knowledge is power. The long rein of " doctors withholding knowledge

from us " , " Big Pharma's many lies to us " , and " the sole use of toxic

medications to treat broad essential nutrient deficiencies in us " ,

deficiencies that these doctors may have actually caused with

antibiotics (this latter is nuts!)... is almost over.

Thank God.

And perhaps thank my son Willy as well.... for what he did to " give us

all hope " . He proved " that we can profoundly cure ourselves!, and do

so without needing any doctor or drug whatsoever! " . (All that Willy

needed, and that we may need, " to CURE ourselves " , is a little

accurate knowledge in which to do so... and perhaps some nutritional

and natural " supplement tools " in which to get the job done.)

Darman

Part of a Curezone post on http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1246920:

....the root cause of each person's illness is to cure it, not just

treat the symptoms. There are many different reasons why people get

sick. It's not one-pill-fits-all, or even one diet cures all.

I work in a state hospital and I see doctors label young men with

serious mental disorders every day. It should be illegal. The videos

below where doctors explain how the DMSlV is bogus and psychiatrists

never cure anyone should be taken seriously. But that may happen in a

few (hundred) years. The pendulum swings very slowly in the human race.

I know most of the men have candida because I see it on their tongues

when I check to see that they swallow their drugs. It's sad and

there's nothing I can do but give them the best care I can. We can't

touch them because they're all felons but we can show them we care by

the look in our eyes, a kind word and trying to get doctors and other

clinicians to listen to them. Once someone gets in the system it's

very hard to get out. As the doctors in the videos below say, we all

can be labeled with a mental illness. Thinking back when I was so sick

with candida I easily could have been incarcerated. There's no way of

testing for mental illness and once you believe you're sick and take

drugs that make you sick you can get caught in a downward spiral. This

site is wonderful and the internet is going to be the worlds saving grace.

[End of Curezone insert]

Blogs that are related in some way to this one:

Autism and Probiotics Proven to Be Linked!!

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=29

Probiotics and Their Effect on All Mental Illness

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=31

The End of Antibiotics

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=321

Introducing the Concept of an " Educational Healing House "

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=252

Doctors Helped Cause Willy's Sickness; A Picture When He Was Not Well

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=226

Willy's latest update; the End! of the Medical Model for ADHD and

Bipolar Disorder (as of February 2007)

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=74

Willy's Three Year ADHD/Bipolar Recovery Story (as of August 2007)

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=235

Willy's Baggie Wisdom on YouTube; the end of Big Pharma or me

http://blog.360./blog-Kgb7fcYwd6q.3mLsjmULpwU-?cq=1 & p=346

[Guest guest]

The problem is that doctors don't really " believe in " candida overgrowth except

in rare cases such as AIDS anyway. The reality is that candida normally exists

in the body anyway, so all tests for candida would be positive. Really what is

needed are good tests to show the degree of candida in the body, and as far as I

know few are reliable.

What I do is I go to a doctor for a diagnosis and tests, and then I decline

medication unless at the moment my condition is life-threatening, but definitely

not for chronic conditions like high blood pressure. Then I learn which natural

foods and herbs can help with that condition, and I read as much as I can about

possible side effects and about people's experiences with such natural

treatments.

So far it has worked very well, with the exception of one time where I had to

take antibiotics for an ear infection I neglected to do natural treatments on

until it was out of control. I have had urinary tract infections that I've

gotten rid of with things like cat's claw and cranberry pills, and colds and ear

infections and sore throats that I've treated with snizzles and lots of garlic

and vitamin C and such. I also work daily to eat healthy foods and live a

healthy life style so I don't get to the point where I need doctors!

Luv,

Debby in San , CA

147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues reversed!

Currently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in Psychology

Group: curingcandida/

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

----- Original Message ----

> From: Darman

> Dear group:

>

> There are some really insightful posts being made on Curezone in the

> " depression alternatives to medication " and " bipolar disorder " support

> forums. What follows is " a GREAT! slice " from one of these posts.

>

> This slice strongly suggests a link between candida, tongue evidence

> of candida, and mental illness.

>

> http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1246920 or " a portion of such as

> can be seen below " .

>

> My attitudes on candida, its proper resolution, and " mental illness "

> (a true misnomer " ) are as follows:

>

> 1. What a scam the current medical model represents... it assists

> people to get candida by prescribing antibiotics, and then makes money

> on treating their resultant " mental illnesses " with drugs... while

> ignoring obvious evidence of candida on the tongue at the same time.

>

> 2. It should be " STANDARD PRACTICE " for ALL doctors that treat ANY

> MENTAL ILLNESS WHATSOEVER to check for evidence of candida on the

> tongue. Jees, how long would that take? What would be the cost-benefit

> ratio for " this little doctor time " (10 seconds perhaps, including the

> explanation of " stick out your tongue, I want to examine it? " ) to

> check for candida by a tongue examination? It sure would not take

> long. Cost of materials would not be high; the cost of one tongue

> depressor (a wooden stick).

[Guest guest]

Think perhaps that many people with candida got it through a high-carb

diet of " empty calories " ? Maybe the gut irritation also resulted in

nutrient malabsorption? This would make an interesting perspective to

people who are aware of Dr. Abram Hoffer's work with mental illness,

which he has been curing with vitamins and minerals for over 45 years

now.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Duncan

 

The tumours (I assume they were tumours because they looked exactly like the

things in the book) were real - as bizzare as my story sounds.

 

If my story was due to mental illness, then I would have had funny experiences

in the past. I havent. It's something that happened once in my life and never

again (with the exception of a much lesser incident recently.

 

I don't particularly enjoy writing about it believe it or not - I do it just in

case someone else is in real trouble and wants to try it, and just in case it

works for them. Thats the only reason I write about it. I know I'm damaging

myself by doing it. And it's not something I'd to if I were face to face.

 

I purchased some of your enzymes for a giant (cancerous) fibroid that I had -

and every health professional told me that it could only be taken out by

surgery. You believed it could be dissolved away with enzymes. Are you any more

of a nutter than I am for my claims. I GAVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT , and

purchased your products. Why don't you do the same for me.

 

You have been deliberately offensive toward me a number of times, Duncan. I

don't know what your problem is but I'm sure you can find someone else on the

group to lay into. PLEASE TRY.

 

Helen

 

 

 

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: Candida, tongues, and mental illness

candidiasis

Received: Saturday, 30 August, 2008, 10:27 AM

Think perhaps that many people with candida got it through a high-carb

diet of " empty calories " ? Maybe the gut irritation also resulted in

nutrient malabsorption? This would make an interesting perspective to

people who are aware of Dr. Abram Hoffer's work with mental illness,

which he has been curing with vitamins and minerals for over 45 years

now.

Duncan

Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with 7.

http://au.docs./homepageset

[Guest guest]

oops - please ignore my last post - on close reading, I didnt know what I was

talking about. My apologied to Duncan.

 

Helen

From: Helen deHavilland <helen_dehavilland@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Candida, tongues, and mental illness

candidiasis

Received: Saturday, 30 August, 2008, 8:22 PM

Duncan

 

The tumours (I assume they were tumours because they looked exactly like the

things in the book) were real - as bizzare as my story sounds.

 

If my story was due to mental illness, then I would have had funny experiences

in the past. I havent. It's something that happened once in my life and never

again (with the exception of a much lesser incident recently.

 

I don't particularly enjoy writing about it believe it or not - I do it just in

case someone else is in real trouble and wants to try it, and just in case it

works for them. Thats the only reason I write about it. I know I'm damaging

myself by doing it. And it's not something I'd to if I were face to face.

 

I purchased some of your enzymes for a giant (cancerous) fibroid that I had -

and every health professional told me that it could only be taken out by

surgery. You believed it could be dissolved away with enzymes. Are you any more

of a nutter than I am for my claims. I GAVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT , and

purchased your products. Why don't you do the same for me.

 

You have been deliberately offensive toward me a number of times, Duncan. I

don't know what your problem is but I'm sure you can find someone else on the

group to lay into. PLEASE TRY.

 

Helen

 

 

 

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrowshaw (DOT) ca>

Subject: Re: Candida, tongues, and mental illness

candidiasis

Received: Saturday, 30 August, 2008, 10:27 AM

Think perhaps that many people with candida got it through a high-carb

diet of " empty calories " ? Maybe the gut irritation also resulted in

nutrient malabsorption? This would make an interesting perspective to

people who are aware of Dr. Abram Hoffer's work with mental illness,

which he has been curing with vitamins and minerals for over 45 years

now.

Duncan

Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with 7. http://au.docs. /

homepageset

[Guest guest]

Apology accepted, Helen. I didn't know what you were referring to

either and I'm sorry I offended you in the past, as I wasn't aware

I had.

Incidentally, the BlockBuster AllClear doesn't dissolve fibroids as

such but the fibrin in them that started it all. The reduced fibrin

allows the remainder of the scarring to reabsorb at a normal pace.

What this'll mean is a much softer fibroid that will be much less

uncomfortable and will be shrinking over time.

All good,

Duncan

>

> From: Helen deHavilland <helen_dehavilland@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Candida, tongues, and mental illness

> candidiasis

> Received: Saturday, 30 August, 2008, 8:22 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Duncan

>  

> The tumours (I assume they were tumours because they looked exactly

like the things in the book) were real - as bizzare as my story

sounds.

>  

> If my story was due to mental illness, then I would have had funny

experiences in the past. I havent. It's something that happened once

in my life and never again (with the exception of a much lesser

incident recently.

>  

> I don't particularly enjoy writing about it believe it or not - I

do it just in case someone else is in real trouble and wants to try

it, and just in case it works for them. Thats the only reason I write

about it. I know I'm damaging myself by doing it. And it's not

something I'd to if I were face to face.

>  

> I purchased some of your enzymes for a giant (cancerous) fibroid

that I had - and every health professional told me that it could

only be taken out by surgery. You believed it could be dissolved away

with enzymes. Are you any more of a nutter than I am for my claims. I

GAVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT , and purchased your products. Why

don't you do the same for me.

>  

> You have been deliberately offensive toward me a number of times,

Duncan. I don't know what your problem is but I'm sure you can find

someone else on the group to lay into. PLEASE TRY.

>  

> Helen

>  

>  

>  

> From: Duncan Crow <duncancrowshaw (DOT) ca>

> Subject: Re: Candida, tongues, and mental illness

> candidiasis

> Received: Saturday, 30 August, 2008, 10:27 AM

>

> Think perhaps that many people with candida got it through a high-

carb

> diet of " empty calories " ? Maybe the gut irritation also resulted in

> nutrient malabsorption? This would make an interesting perspective

to

> people who are aware of Dr. Abram Hoffer's work with mental

illness,

> which he has been curing with vitamins and minerals for over 45

years

> now.

>

> Duncan

>

> Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with 7. http://au.docs.

/ homepageset

>

>

[Guest guest]

DUNCAN

 

I had fibroid out becasue it was growing so quickly in the end. This was

probably swelling due to water as you said. But interestingly, it was found that

the 20cm fibroid was dying from the inside out. 8cm of tissue in the middle of

the fibroid consisted of " necretizing tissue " . Unfortunatley, that doesnt show

up on an ultrasound - it just looks like the fibroid is getting bigger - so I

had it surgically removed (in my case, as you know however, there was also

a cancer issue)

 

Helen

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: Candida, tongues, and mental illness

candidiasis

Received: Wednesday, 3 September, 2008, 8:27 AM

Apology accepted, Helen. I didn't know what you were referring to

either and I'm sorry I offended you in the past, as I wasn't aware

I had.

Incidentally, the BlockBuster AllClear doesn't dissolve fibroids as

such but the fibrin in them that started it all. The reduced fibrin

allows the remainder of the scarring to reabsorb at a normal pace.

What this'll mean is a much softer fibroid that will be much less

uncomfortable and will be shrinking over time.

All good,

Duncan

>

> From: Helen deHavilland <helen_dehavilland@ ...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Candida, tongues, and mental illness

> candidiasis

> Received: Saturday, 30 August, 2008, 8:22 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Duncan

>  

> The tumours (I assume they were tumours because they looked exactly

like the things in the book) were real - as bizzare as my story

sounds.

>  

> If my story was due to mental illness, then I would have had funny

experiences in the past. I havent. It's something that happened once

in my life and never again (with the exception of a much lesser

incident recently.

>  

> I don't particularly enjoy writing about it believe it or not - I

do it just in case someone else is in real trouble and wants to try

it, and just in case it works for them. Thats the only reason I write

about it. I know I'm damaging myself by doing it. And it's not

something I'd to if I were face to face.

>  

> I purchased some of your enzymes for a giant (cancerous) fibroid

that I had - and every health professional told me that it could

only be taken out by surgery. You believed it could be dissolved away

with enzymes. Are you any more of a nutter than I am for my claims. I

GAVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT , and purchased your products. Why

don't you do the same for me.

>  

> You have been deliberately offensive toward me a number of times,

Duncan. I don't know what your problem is but I'm sure you can find

someone else on the group to lay into. PLEASE TRY.

>  

> Helen

>  

>  

>  

> From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@ shaw. ca>

> Subject: Re: Candida, tongues, and mental illness

> candidiasis

> Received: Saturday, 30 August, 2008, 10:27 AM

>

> Think perhaps that many people with candida got it through a high-

carb

> diet of " empty calories " ? Maybe the gut irritation also resulted in

> nutrient malabsorption? This would make an interesting perspective

to

> people who are aware of Dr. Abram Hoffer's work with mental

illness,

> which he has been curing with vitamins and minerals for over 45

years

> now.

>

> Duncan

>

> Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with 7. http://au.docs.

/ homepageset

>

>