Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Kathy, One thing I have been drinking regularly this summer is club soda with a little lemon or lime juice. Club soda is carbonated water with a few minerals (whereas selzer is just carbonated water). The juice adds a negligible amount of sugar but a whole lot of flavor! You can also add a little sea salt, although that causes the soda to foam up and lose some of its carbonation. This is a healthful beverage and satisfies the need for a cold fizzy drink. If this isn't sweet enough, you can start by mixing a sweeter type of juice (orange, apple, cherry, cocktails) with club soda in a 1:1 ratio. Over time you can reduce the ratio of juice to soda to reduce the sugar. Reducing sugar throughout the diet can be a slow process, but I've found the less sugar I try to eat, the less I want it. Even better would be a home-brewed lacto-fermented beverage ( " The Real Real Thing " !) such as ginger beer, but it will require more effort and time. See this article for an overview: http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/Realthing.html Good luck, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 On 9/1/08, Tom Jeanne <tjeanne@...> wrote: > Club soda is carbonated water with a few > minerals (whereas selzer is just carbonated water). Not to be confused with tonic water! When I worked in the restaurant industry I realized that plain tonic water will give you a hangover without getting you drunk. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 As I recently got into it myself, I second the club soda. There's a " sodium free " kind that I get that is actually a decent source of potassium (they replaced the NaCl with KCl and I get plenty of NaCl without needing it from a drink). I mix mine with a tiny amount of unsweetened cranberry juice concentrate and it is fantastic. Sometimes I use OJ concentrate, but that makes a heck of a foamy beverage (I read it foams a lot vs the cranberry because of the increased sugar content). -Lana " There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Tom Jeanne <tjeanne@...> wrote: > Kathy, > > One thing I have been drinking regularly this summer is club soda with > a little lemon or lime juice. Club soda is carbonated water with a few > minerals (whereas selzer is just carbonated water). The juice adds a > negligible amount of sugar but a whole lot of flavor! You can also add > a little sea salt, although that causes the soda to foam up and lose > some of its carbonation. This is a healthful beverage and satisfies > the need for a cold fizzy drink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 When I allow my kids to have soda for a treat, we usually make our own by using Pellegrino water mixed with 100% fruit juice concentrate. We usually mix 2 cans of Pellegrino, and 1 can filtered water to the juice concentrate. My kids love it. We also used this recipe to make punch last Christmas for an open house. The guests loved it and we couldn't keep the punch bowl filled fast enough. For the punch, we mixed two different flavors of juice concentrate together. Good luck, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Kathy, It is just by pure luck that I happened to read your post today (very much behind keeping up with these sites and almost skipped). I've found that kombucha is a perfect substitute for sodas. My family hasn't had sodas for many months and we don't miss them. The kombucha is not only cheaper to make, but also good for you. Mine usually turns out very carbonated, and although it is made with sugar the fermenting process consumes most of the sugar. My diabetic husband's blood sugar is not affected by his consumption of kombucha. More about kombucha here: http://www.seedsofhealth.co.uk/fermenting/kombucha.shtml Many people who make kombucha have extra cultures to share. If you can't find any locally, most will ship to you if you cover the cost of postage. -Patty --- In , " Kathy " <kathleenis_his@...> wrote: > > Hey everyone. I'm new here and wrote before asking if there were any > parents of autistic children here; we have two. > > Anywho, my diabetic autistic 18 year old is addicted to diet soda. ...I am trying to put this to an end... does > anyone have any suggestions for me? Either stuff I can buy, make or > whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 --- Thanks Patty, I'll look into that. In , " Patty T " <tri4home@...> wrote: > > Kathy, > > It is just by pure luck that I happened to read your post today (very > much behind keeping up with these sites and almost skipped). > > I've found that kombucha is a perfect substitute for sodas. My > family hasn't had sodas for many months and we don't miss them. The > kombucha is not only cheaper to make, but also good for you. Mine > usually turns out very carbonated, and although it is made with sugar > the fermenting process consumes most of the sugar. My diabetic > husband's blood sugar is not affected by his consumption of kombucha. > > More about kombucha here: > http://www.seedsofhealth.co.uk/fermenting/kombucha.shtml > > Many people who make kombucha have extra cultures to share. If you > can't find any locally, most will ship to you if you cover the cost > of postage. > > -Patty > > > > > > Hey everyone. I'm new here and wrote before asking if there were any > > parents of autistic children here; we have two. > > > > Anywho, my diabetic autistic 18 year old is addicted to diet > soda. ...I am trying to put this to an end... does > > anyone have any suggestions for me? Either stuff I can buy, make or > > whatever. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 ---Thanks Tom. I'll bookmark the article on ginger beer; maybe I could get him used to it but he doesn't seem to like ginger ale. We do use club soda sometimes too though but our son has gotten into the habit (hard to break with auties-- did you see Rainman? lol) of going out daily for a fountain soda. I'm trying to acclimate him to getting something similar in a fountain cup when we go out for a drive-- which is part of the thing he likes to do each day. I should probably mention I think he is addicted to the caffeine-- but this in itself is not a bad thing as he is (I believe) ADDH and I think it calms him down as stimulants tend to do the opposite on ADDH folk. I've read logs of adults with the disorder who claim it does anyways. Kathy In , " Tom Jeanne " <tjeanne@...> wrote: > > Kathy, > > One thing I have been drinking regularly this summer is club soda with > a little lemon or lime juice. Club soda is carbonated water with a few > minerals (whereas selzer is just carbonated water). The juice adds a > negligible amount of sugar but a whole lot of flavor! You can also add > a little sea salt, although that causes the soda to foam up and lose > some of its carbonation. This is a healthful beverage and satisfies > the need for a cold fizzy drink. > > If this isn't sweet enough, you can start by mixing a sweeter type of > juice (orange, apple, cherry, cocktails) with club soda in a 1:1 > ratio. Over time you can reduce the ratio of juice to soda to reduce > the sugar. Reducing sugar throughout the diet can be a slow process, > but I've found the less sugar I try to eat, the less I want it. > > Even better would be a home-brewed lacto-fermented beverage ( " The Real > Real Thing " !) such as ginger beer, but it will require more effort and > time. See this article for an overview: > http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/Realthing.html > > Good luck, > > Tom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 --- I was just reading about tonic water being used for something or other....don't recall what. Because of the quinine in it though. Kathy In , " Masterjohn " <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote: > > On 9/1/08, Tom Jeanne <tjeanne@...> wrote: > > Club soda is carbonated water with a few > > minerals (whereas selzer is just carbonated water). > > Not to be confused with tonic water! When I worked in the restaurant > industry I realized that plain tonic water will give you a hangover > without getting you drunk. > > Chris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 --- What's Pellegrino ? I have tried something similar with club soda (is that the same?) and it wasn't sweet enough for him. Diabetics do tend to have wicked sweet tooth, though he'll drink plain club soda so go figure. But then he'll still ask for 'soda'. Yesterday I did do this with 7-up (which has no artificial stuff) and fruit concentrate though and I thought it tasted pretty good. But of course has more sugar than 7-up by itself, albeit natural fruit sugar. I might just stick with that as a substitute. Only there is no caffeine in it and I think he needs that. (See my other post about this with addh)I may try to wean him off the sugar taste (though he gets it in diet soda usually) but doubt I'll have much luck. He gets no fruit (due to consistency issues) unless it is jam or juice-- and he's not real big on the latter, probably because I put his liquid meds in it each day. I try to serve it by itself too though. Thanks though; you sort of confirmed that it might be a good principal to stick to the juice concentrate with some sort of added fizz. Kathy In , " mrszarling " <mrszarling@...> wrote: > > When I allow my kids to have soda for a treat, we usually make our own > by using Pellegrino water mixed with 100% fruit juice concentrate. We > usually mix 2 cans of Pellegrino, and 1 can filtered water to the > juice concentrate. My kids love it. We also used this recipe to make > punch last Christmas for an open house. The guests loved it and we > couldn't keep the punch bowl filled fast enough. For the punch, we > mixed two different flavors of juice concentrate together. > > Good luck, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Kathy: I believe Pellegrino is just carbonated water. I don't have a bottle on hand to read the label, but I don't think anything is added to it. We usually get a case of it from Costco around the holidays to have on hand as it is good for serving with a slice of lemon or as I mentioned before, making our homemade pop or punch. Have you tried Stevia to sweeten things for your son? I also make Kombucha, and 3 of my kids love it - yes, it is very easy to make, very inexpensive to make, and you can brew it to your liking (tartness/sweetness). I recently read a book called Breaking the Vicious Cycle. Have you read this? It's on the GAPS diet, and there are testimonies out there from parents who have cured their autistic children through this diet. All the best to you and your family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Kathy, Have you thought about water kefir. Depending on what is added to the second fermenting it can be changed with every batch to taste different. With the addition of fruit in the second ferment water kefir get very very fizzy, thus it really does satisfies the craving for fizzy drinks. However you may need to find a different outing for your son as well since like many people he maybe enjoying the outing, having some place to go, along with seeing people as much as the soda. Which is why many people go for coffee or a coke when both are available at home. One can even make water kefir champagne for special occasions. Additions to second ferment Lemon Lime different fruit juices of blended fresh fruit, juice or frozen Just did mango while in Mexico an nice change. cream soda just add vanilla beans or pure vanilla REAL ROOT BEER 2 tsp sarsaparilla root 1 tsp licorice root 1 tsp wintergreen leaves 1 tsp stevia leaves (for sweetness optional) 1/2 tsp cinnamon bark can be premixed and added to water kefir or 2 cups water 1 quart carbonated water Simmer herbs in the water in 10 minutes, then remove from heat. Cover the pan and let cool. Strain out herbs, add carbonated water and serve. VANILLA KEFIR CHARMER Ingredients * 1 large or 2 small ripe bananas. * 1-cup kefir. * 1-cup of coconut milk, coconut cream or young coconut water. * 1 to 2-Tbs of fresh kefir grains [when surplus grains are available]. * ½ tsp each ginger and cinnamon powder. - can leave out ginger * 1-Tbs wheat germ. * ½ tsp of natural vanilla essence. * 2 fresh mint leaves. ELDERBERRY ROSEHIP 1 liter water 1 to 2 Tablespoons water kefir grains 1 Tablespoon water kefir or strained lemon juice 2 Heaping Tablespoons dried elderberries (Put in tea bag) 1 Heaping teaspoon dried chopped rosehips (Put in tea bag) 2 dried figs Organic 1/3 cup sugar 1 inch size ginger cut into 3 slices - can be left out 1 small lime cut in half Bottle in 2 days with large chunk of ginger in each bottle. Sit on counter for 2 days then refrigerate. From: Kathy ---Thanks Tom. I'll bookmark the article on ginger beer; maybe I could get him used to it but he doesn't seem to like ginger ale. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Have any of you tried water kefir? It's basically fermented water, sugar and your choice of fruits, juices, ginger etc. I do the first ferment with water and sugar (and of course water kefir crystals) and then add juice for the secondary. I leave the 2nd ferment out 2 to 4 days until there is virtually no sugar left, then sweeten with a little stevia. It is very carbonated. I love kombucha, but even after a year don't tolerate it well. I mix about 2 oz kombucha with 12 oz water kefir and it's good! Patty --- In , " Kathy " <kathleenis_his@...> wrote: Thanks though; you sort of confirmed that it might be a good principal > to stick to the juice concentrate with some sort of added fizz. > > Kathy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 > Not to be confused with tonic water! When I worked in the restaurant > industry I realized that plain tonic water will give you a hangover > without getting you drunk. Oh ya, BIG difference. Tonic water is loaded with sugar and has quinine to boot. Last month I ordered a Jack and soda (meaning club soda) at a bar and the bartender made it with tonic instead. It was TERRIBLE and I had her remake it. (Lately I've gotten into whiskeys of all sorts, partly because I was trying to curtail my beer intake due to the carbs. Whiskey on the rocks or with soda is ~0 carbs.) I discovered this saying recently (maybe from someone here?): An té nach leigheasann im nó uisce beatha, nà aon leigheas ar. [What butter and whiskey cannot cure, there is no cure for.] —Old Irish Proverb Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Lana, > I mix mine with a tiny amount of unsweetened cranberry juice > concentrate and it is fantastic. Sometimes I use OJ concentrate, but that > makes a heck of a foamy beverage (I read it foams a lot vs the cranberry > because of the increased sugar content). > > -Lana FWIW, I suspect it is the orange pulp in orange juice that causes soda to foam up more than a non-pulpy juice such as cranberry. Sugar is highly water soluble so it is entirely in solution in any juice. What causes a carbonated beverage to foam up is the addition of solid particles (e.g. salt granules, orange pulp) on which the C02 will precipitate out of solution. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 If you hate fluoride, San Pelligrino has about a half of the value of tap water in the US, I believe. This is more than most other bottled waters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Pellegrino > > Kathy: > I believe Pellegrino is just carbonated water. I don't have a bottle > on hand to read the label, but I don't think anything is added to it. > We usually get a case of it from Costco around the holidays to have > on hand as it is good for serving with a slice of lemon or as I > mentioned before, making our homemade pop or punch. Have you tried > Stevia to sweeten things for your son? I also make Kombucha, and 3 of > my kids love it - yes, it is very easy to make, very inexpensive to > make, and you can brew it to your liking (tartness/sweetness). I > recently read a book called Breaking the Vicious Cycle. Have you read > this? It's on the GAPS diet, and there are testimonies out there from > parents who have cured their autistic children through this diet. All > the best to you and your family. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Well, there is next to no sugar in unsweetened cranberry juice (I'm not talking about the juice cocktails normally sold as cranberry - this is 100% cranberry and can pucker your face if you use too much.) Also, I've tried it with both pulp and pulp-free OJ and still get the foam. I've never tried any other juice though (I don't really like juice, except the aforementioned cranberry) so it might be something unique to the OJ that does it... -Lana " There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Tom Jeanne <tjeanne@...> wrote: > FWIW, I suspect it is the orange pulp in orange juice that causes soda > to foam up more than a non-pulpy juice such as cranberry. Sugar is > highly water soluble so it is entirely in solution in any juice. What > causes a carbonated beverage to foam up is the addition of solid > particles (e.g. salt granules, orange pulp) on which the C02 will > precipitate out of solution. > > Tom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 This is how I get my beet kvass in. I put 1/2 cup beet kvass in a tall glass, add cranberry juice concentrate (unsweetened), a little lime juice, and fill with Perrier or other sparkling mineral water. Yum!! Artificially carbonated drinks can have a lot of phosphorus in them, according to a naturopath I used to see, which can be bad for your bones. That's why I use the naturally carbonated. I love Gerolsteiner and used to buy it relatively inexpensively at Trader Joe's, but now it comes in plastic bottles. AnnB > > > Kathy, > > > > One thing I have been drinking regularly this summer is club soda with > > a little lemon or lime juice. Club soda is carbonated water with a few > > minerals (whereas selzer is just carbonated water). The juice adds a > > negligible amount of sugar but a whole lot of flavor! You can also add > > a little sea salt, although that causes the soda to foam up and lose > > some of its carbonation. This is a healthful beverage and satisfies > > the need for a cold fizzy drink. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 --- tHanks Ann and also everyone else who wrote about the soda. I'll have to catch up with all the posts and also do some research, especially about beet kvass. lol (sounds German) But yes I have used unsweetened cranberry juice before; I don't think my son liked it but I thought it was delicious. A little pricey though-- so I buy it mixed with another juice (like in Apple and Eve) when I get myself revved up about using only natural juice. Kathy In , " annbekins " <annbekins@...> wrote: > > This is how I get my beet kvass in. I put 1/2 cup beet kvass in a > tall glass, add cranberry juice concentrate (unsweetened), a little > lime juice, and fill with Perrier or other sparkling mineral water. > Yum!! Artificially carbonated drinks can have a lot of phosphorus in > them, according to a naturopath I used to see, which can be bad for > your bones. That's why I use the naturally carbonated. I love > Gerolsteiner and used to buy it relatively inexpensively at Trader > Joe's, but now it comes in plastic bottles. > > AnnB > > > > > > > > Kathy, > > > > > > One thing I have been drinking regularly this summer is club soda with > > > a little lemon or lime juice. Club soda is carbonated water with a few > > > minerals (whereas selzer is just carbonated water). The juice adds a > > > negligible amount of sugar but a whole lot of flavor! You can also add > > > a little sea salt, although that causes the soda to foam up and lose > > > some of its carbonation. This is a healthful beverage and satisfies > > > the need for a cold fizzy drink. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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