Re: Bee pollen for B12- Floradix

[Guest guest]

I have used Floradix with great and direct results, but we eat as much

meat as we can afford for b-12 so weren't considering it a real source

for that. I recall that the company used chemical vitamins and the plant

extracts, and ethically mined minerals. It was difficult to tell from

their website, but I know that their children's multivitamin contains

chemical A, so I extrapolated that the Floradix probably also contains

chemical vitamonsters and they say very clearly that the some of the

plant extracts are decorations. So being, it is a compomise product, but

absent some of the fillers in vitamin pills.

My understanding is that these misconceptions about plant-sourced vitamin

forms abound. If I meet individuals every day who believe them, then I

don't know why I should expect every company to be completely aware that

these claims aren't true. The Salus-Haus company is far from perfect in

their vegetarian hype, but no more bogus than a Weston Price foundation

which advocates for formula feeding, when the natives Price studied and

the diets he advocated, breastfed <grin>.

Floradix is sourced by Flora from Salus-Haus, which supervises the

growing of its plants on what it calls ethical, organic farms in Chile :

http://www.florahealth.com/flora/home/Canada/AboutFlora/Partners_SalusHau

s_Main.htm

and in one of the faq they mention that the amount of B-12 is dictated by

Flora based on the Canadian RDA.

But, like I said, the plant extracts are decorations for the chemicals in

this formula, but it did help us. Stay away from the book

recommendations on the website, unless you want to drink PUFA oils with

Udo Erasmus. . . but the bitters look okay.

Desh

[Guest guest]

> for that. I recall that the company used chemical vitamins and the plant

> extracts, and ethically mined minerals. It was difficult to tell from

> their website, but I know that their children's multivitamin contains

> chemical A, so I extrapolated that the Floradix probably also contains

> chemical vitamonsters and they say very clearly that the some of the

Absolutely.

Floradix is actually ferrous gluconate, which is very cheap from Nature's

Way, you can get a 90-day supply for $5. The herbs do not form the vast

majority of the iron in the supplement. Floridix will set you back about

$25 for a 30-day supply.

I was very aggravated when I discovered that, and quit purchasing from the

company all together. They try to make consumers believe that all of their

supplements are solely herbal.

KerryAnn

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[Guest guest]

OK, that makes sense. Their label makes it seem like all their

ingredients are herbs without synthetic vitamins. B-12 not a big

concern here either, but I was looking for a whole foods source of

B6, at least.

>

> I have used Floradix with great and direct results, but we eat as

much

> meat as we can afford for b-12 so weren't considering it a real

source

> for that. I recall that the company used chemical vitamins and the

plant

> extracts, and ethically mined minerals. It was difficult to tell

from

> their website, but I know that their children's multivitamin

contains

> chemical A, so I extrapolated that the Floradix probably also

contains

> chemical vitamonsters and they say very clearly that the some of the

> plant extracts are decorations. So being, it is a compomise

product, but

> absent some of the fillers in vitamin pills.

>

> My understanding is that these misconceptions about plant-sourced

vitamin

> forms abound. If I meet individuals every day who believe them,

then I

> don't know why I should expect every company to be completely aware

that

> these claims aren't true. The Salus-Haus company is far from

perfect in

> their vegetarian hype, but no more bogus than a Weston Price

foundation

> which advocates for formula feeding, when the natives Price studied

and

> the diets he advocated, breastfed <grin>.

>

> Floradix is sourced by Flora from Salus-Haus, which supervises the

> growing of its plants on what it calls ethical, organic farms in

Chile :

> http://www.florahealth.com/flora/home/Canada/AboutFlora/

Partners_SalusHau

> s_Main.htm

> and in one of the faq they mention that the amount of B-12 is

dictated by

> Flora based on the Canadian RDA.

>

> But, like I said, the plant extracts are decorations for the

chemicals in

> this formula, but it did help us. Stay away from the book

> recommendations on the website, unless you want to drink PUFA oils

with

> Udo Erasmus. . . but the bitters look okay.

>

> Desh

>

[Guest guest]

What about nutritional yeast for b6?

We still take Floradix, but not every day, much too expensive though

vitacost is nearly half the hfs price. I try to get whole foods sources

of most vitamins but just can't make it without the Bs and iron- the kids

will not eat enough liver. We do much better on liquid supplements, but

the Floradix really has a double sinister purpose here. It has gotten

the children used to taking weird potions from dark bottles, which really

makes it easier to get them to take other weird potions from dark

bottles. And it has gotten my husband used to spending more money than

he would like on supplements, since he is German and so are they. If you

read the FAQ on Floradix on the Salus-Haus website, the are pretty

straightforward about the gluconate, and about the herbs being only in

small amounts in this formula. They should really be more

straightforward on the bottle- I wonder if that's the doing of the

marketer or manufacturer?

I actually joined this group in part because I was interested in making

my own herbal supplements, as well as medicaments, but that wasn't the

conversation which was going on here.

Desh

[Guest guest]

I'll try the nutritional yeast. I know what you mean about weird

potions--we've got all kinds of stuff like cod liver oil that my two

year old son takes in his porridge before he gets his eggs...:-)

>

> What about nutritional yeast for b6?

>

> We still take Floradix, but not every day, much too expensive

though

> vitacost is nearly half the hfs price. I try to get whole foods

sources

> of most vitamins but just can't make it without the Bs and iron-

the kids

> will not eat enough liver. We do much better on liquid

supplements, but

> the Floradix really has a double sinister purpose here. It has

gotten

> the children used to taking weird potions from dark bottles, which

really

> makes it easier to get them to take other weird potions from dark

> bottles. And it has gotten my husband used to spending more money

than

> he would like on supplements, since he is German and so are they.

If you

> read the FAQ on Floradix on the Salus-Haus website, the are pretty

> straightforward about the gluconate, and about the herbs being

only in

> small amounts in this formula. They should really be more

> straightforward on the bottle- I wonder if that's the doing of the

> marketer or manufacturer?

>

> I actually joined this group in part because I was interested in

making

> my own herbal supplements, as well as medicaments, but that wasn't

the

> conversation which was going on here.

>

> Desh

>

[Guest guest]

Check your nutritional yeast source for synthetic B-12; some sources add

it for vegans, etc.

d.