Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 You can make a soda by adding yeast to any sweet beverage, and store is ok, I've even used canned coconut milk. A good yeast is s. boulardii because it's very beneficial to the gut, and you will be consuming the live yeast. Some good books are Sandor Katz's " Wild Fermentation " that tells how to make meade (honey wine) and many other fermented drinks, and " The New Complete Joy of Homebrewing " by Charlie Papazian, which you can get cheap used because homebrewing outfits used to give them out for free with big orders, or so I've been told. That's a fascinating book that really goes in depth into the lifecycle of yeast, the enzymes that turn barley into malt, etc. Another really good book is Harrod Buhner's " Sacred and Herbal Healing Beers " that has ancient recipes using herbs and really neat information. --- In , " jkruer01 " <jkruer01@...> wrote: > > Hey Everyone, > > I am new to the list and new to style eating. I am > interested in getting started with home brewing. At first I want to > start simple and was thinking about getting started with Kefir Beer > and Kombucha. Then I wanted to branch into lacto-fermented cokes and > finally beer and wine. > > I want to make sure I enjoy doings this before I spend a couple > hundred bucks on equipment so I am trying to get started cheap. > > If anyone has any advice for a newbie brewer I would appreciate it. > > I was reading about Kefir Beer and if I am reading it correctly, it > sounds like I can simply add Kefir grains to a glass container of > Apple or Grape Juice and let it sit out for about 48 hours. Will > store bought juice work or do you have to make your own? > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 We've been making ginger beer from NT and mead from Wild fermentations. We don't have any equipment - yet. Just some big jars for brewing and small bottles that we've saved from other things. Ginger beer has become everyone's favourite - I'm going to have to step up production for summer. -- In , " jkruer01 " <jkruer01@...> wrote: > > Hey Everyone, > > I am new to the list and new to style eating. I am > interested in getting started with home brewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Wow I just joined this group today and already a topic I can post on. I am a homebrew idiot! I mean my hobby is I have been brewing for about 19 months and I have 26 batches and 6 medals (from competitions) under my belt. I make all malt beer from 100% grain and I am getting really good at it. I would be more than happy to help out with any specific questions that you have and if I can't answer your questions I know tons of resources so I can certainly point you in the right direction. I do have a question of my own. I would like to start making kombucha so I bought and read a book on the subject. The book said definitively not to use anything but clear glass to store your kombucha. As a well outfitted homebrewer I have a hard time believing that a stainless steel keg or brown bottles would not be a suitable storage container for kombucha. So can I use non reactive storage vessels other than clear glass to store my finished kombucha product? Thank you in advance for any information. > > > > Hey Everyone, > > > > I am new to the list and new to style eating. I am > > interested in getting started with home brewing. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Hi I started with Kombucha tea and Kefir... Bought a 5 gallon bucket for KTea much easier to do continuous brewing... I end up brewing it a couple of weeks, then bottle... So bought a bottle capper, pleanty of bottles from friends -- This is where I learned about fermentation and secondary fermentation and bottling.... Kefir well I only do the milk Kefir.. Plop the gains in milk, let it ferment abt 24 hours, strain and drink... Great.. Didn't die from botulism.... This past year I make Hard Apple cider... (6 gallon bucket). Use 5 gallons apple cider, brown sugar (2#), 2 packages of yeast,,, Let it Ferment a month and put into gallon jugs to clarify.... Needed a couple airlocks, used some hose from the fish store... finally bottled it into beer bottles (sam b is good) (the ones that are not twist off) let it mellow a couple of months, taste testing it... Believe me it is not something you drink right away.... (makes fur patches on the back of your tongue)... Mine is mellowing out now.... Starting to taste good.. Of course taste testing the past couple of months has lowered the quantity (I'm learming as I go) Today I bought a 3 gallon Carboy to make mead (an old celtic drink -- Honey - water - yeast) (takes abt 2 years b4 you can drink... All I am saying here is, try one thing at a time... No sense going and buying out the store.. Believe me they will try to sell you kits... You dont have to buy a lot of equipment... Keep it simple... Buy as you go... I'm having fun taking it one step at a time... In another month or so will make dandelion wine... Wish me luck..., blueberry wine etc... jkruer01 <jkruer01@...> wrote: Hey Everyone, I am new to the list and new to style eating. I am interested in getting started with home brewing. At first I want to start simple and was thinking about getting started with Kefir Beer and Kombucha. Then I wanted to branch into lacto-fermented cokes and finally beer and wine. I want to make sure I enjoy doings this before I spend a couple hundred bucks on equipment so I am trying to get started cheap. If anyone has any advice for a newbie brewer I would appreciate it. I was reading about Kefir Beer and if I am reading it correctly, it sounds like I can simply add Kefir grains to a glass container of Apple or Grape Juice and let it sit out for about 48 hours. Will store bought juice work or do you have to make your own? Thanks, ~~PEACE~~ HippeeSandee HippeeSandee's Endless Mountains Realm " People don't stop dancing because they get too old People get old because they stop dancing " --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 - > As a well outfitted homebrewer I have a hard time believing that > a stainless steel keg or brown bottles would not be a suitable > storage container for > kombucha. So can I use non reactive storage vessels other than clear > glass to store my > finished kombucha product? As there seems to be increasing uncertainty about what might leech out of stainless steel into foods or beverages (particularly acidic ones) the warning against stainless steel is probably worth heeding, since kombucha can become very acidic. I have no idea why brown glass would be a problem, though. That doesn't seem to make any sense. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 If stainless steel leeches things into food then what are we supposed to cook in? Doesn't Sally Fallon recommend using stainless steel cookware? I don't think they make glass cookware do they??? As there seems to be increasing uncertainty about what might leech out of stainless steel into foods or beverages (particularly acidic ones) the warning against stainless steel is probably worth heeding, since kombucha can become very acidic. I have no idea why brown glass would be a problem, though. That doesn't seem to make any sense. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Thanks for the advise. That is where I am going to start....with Kefir and Kombucha. I have some mason jars that I am going to use for the Kefir and I am going to buy a 1 gallon glass tea jar for the Kombucha. Then, I will go from there. Thanks, Kruer Stratton-Kruer Team RE/MAX Performance Realty 30 Stonecrest Ct Shelbyville, KY 40065 (O) (502)633-4998 © (502)432-5553 Re: Want to get into Home Brewing Hi I started with Kombucha tea and Kefir... Bought a 5 gallon bucket for KTea much easier to do continuous brewing... I end up brewing it a couple of weeks, then bottle... So bought a bottle capper, pleanty of bottles from friends -- This is where I learned about fermentation and secondary fermentation and bottling.... Kefir well I only do the milk Kefir.. Plop the gains in milk, let it ferment abt 24 hours, strain and drink... Great.. Didn't die from botulism.... This past year I make Hard Apple cider... (6 gallon bucket). Use 5 gallons apple cider, brown sugar (2#), 2 packages of yeast,,, Let it Ferment a month and put into gallon jugs to clarify.... Needed a couple airlocks, used some hose from the fish store... finally bottled it into beer bottles (sam b is good) (the ones that are not twist off) let it mellow a couple of months, taste testing it... Believe me it is not something you drink right away.... (makes fur patches on the back of your tongue)... Mine is mellowing out now.... Starting to taste good.. Of course taste testing the past couple of months has lowered the quantity (I'm learming as I go) Today I bought a 3 gallon Carboy to make mead (an old celtic drink -- Honey - water - yeast) (takes abt 2 years b4 you can drink... All I am saying here is, try one thing at a time... No sense going and buying out the store.. Believe me they will try to sell you kits... You dont have to buy a lot of equipment... Keep it simple... Buy as you go... I'm having fun taking it one step at a time... In another month or so will make dandelion wine... Wish me luck..., blueberry wine etc... jkruer01 <jkruer01 (DOT) com> wrote: Hey Everyone, I am new to the list and new to style eating. I am interested in getting started with home brewing. At first I want to start simple and was thinking about getting started with Kefir Beer and Kombucha. Then I wanted to branch into lacto-fermented cokes and finally beer and wine. I want to make sure I enjoy doings this before I spend a couple hundred bucks on equipment so I am trying to get started cheap. If anyone has any advice for a newbie brewer I would appreciate it. I was reading about Kefir Beer and if I am reading it correctly, it sounds like I can simply add Kefir grains to a glass container of Apple or Grape Juice and let it sit out for about 48 hours. Will store bought juice work or do you have to make your own? Thanks, ~~PEACE~~ HippeeSandee HippeeSandee' s Endless Mountains Realm " People don't stop dancing because they get too old People get old because they stop dancing " ------------ --------- --------- --- You rock. That's why Blockbuster' s offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 , Thanks for the offer, I will keep it in mind. I have been told not to store it in plastic because plastic has been known to leech toxins into food and liquids that are stored in it. I have also been told not to store Kombucha in something with a metal spigot because the acidity can reach fairly low levels (i.e. pH of 2 or 3) and it could/would eat through the metal. As far as the brown glass, I have not heard of any problems using it but I am new to all this. Thanks, Re: Want to get into Home Brewing Wow I just joined this group today and already a topic I can post on. I am a homebrew idiot! I mean my hobby is I have been brewing for about 19 months and I have 26 batches and 6 medals (from competitions) under my belt. I make all malt beer from 100% grain and I am getting really good at it. I would be more than happy to help out with any specific questions that you have and if I can't answer your questions I know tons of resources so I can certainly point you in the right direction. I do have a question of my own. I would like to start making kombucha so I bought and read a book on the subject. The book said definitively not to use anything but clear glass to store your kombucha. As a well outfitted homebrewer I have a hard time believing that a stainless steel keg or brown bottles would not be a suitable storage container for kombucha. So can I use non reactive storage vessels other than clear glass to store my finished kombucha product? Thank you in advance for any information. > > > > Hey Everyone, > > > > I am new to the list and new to style eating. I am > > interested in getting started with home brewing. > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 I have a copy of NT but I have not picked up Wild Fermentations....maybe I will have to pick up a copy. Thanks, Kruer Stratton-Kruer Team RE/MAX Performance Realty 30 Stonecrest Ct Shelbyville, KY 40065 (O) (502)633-4998 © (502)432-5553 Re: Want to get into Home Brewing We've been making ginger beer from NT and mead from Wild fermentations. We don't have any equipment - yet. Just some big jars for brewing and small bottles that we've saved from other things. Ginger beer has become everyone's favourite - I'm going to have to step up production for summer. -- In , " jkruer01 " <jkruer01@.. .> wrote: > > Hey Everyone, > > I am new to the list and new to style eating. I am > interested in getting started with home brewing. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 As far as the soda goes, I was thinking more along the lines of lacto-fermented soda like what is described in this article over at Weston A Price's website: http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/Realthing.html Thanks, Kruer Stratton-Kruer Team RE/MAX Performance Realty 30 Stonecrest Ct Shelbyville, KY 40065 (O) (502)633-4998 © (502)432-5553 Re: Want to get into Home Brewing You can make a soda by adding yeast to any sweet beverage, and store is ok, I've even used canned coconut milk. A good yeast is s. boulardii because it's very beneficial to the gut, and you will be consuming the live yeast. Some good books are Sandor Katz's " Wild Fermentation " that tells how to make meade (honey wine) and many other fermented drinks, and " The New Complete Joy of Homebrewing " by Charlie Papazian, which you can get cheap used because homebrewing outfits used to give them out for free with big orders, or so I've been told. That's a fascinating book that really goes in depth into the lifecycle of yeast, the enzymes that turn barley into malt, etc. Another really good book is Harrod Buhner's " Sacred and Herbal Healing Beers " that has ancient recipes using herbs and really neat information. --- In , " jkruer01 " <jkruer01@.. .> wrote: > > Hey Everyone, > > I am new to the list and new to style eating. I am > interested in getting started with home brewing. At first I want to > start simple and was thinking about getting started with Kefir Beer > and Kombucha. Then I wanted to branch into lacto-fermented cokes and > finally beer and wine. > > I want to make sure I enjoy doings this before I spend a couple > hundred bucks on equipment so I am trying to get started cheap. > > If anyone has any advice for a newbie brewer I would appreciate it. > > I was reading about Kefir Beer and if I am reading it correctly, it > sounds like I can simply add Kefir grains to a glass container of > Apple or Grape Juice and let it sit out for about 48 hours. Will > store bought juice work or do you have to make your own? > > Thanks, > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 - > If stainless steel leeches things into food then what are we > supposed to cook in? Doesn't Sally Fallon recommend using stainless > steel cookware? I don't think they make glass cookware do they??? I'm not sure, but I think Sally has expressed some new reservations about stainless steel. At any rate, they do make glass cookware, but maybe more to the point, enamelware is essentially glass-coated cookware, so enameled cast iron is probably your best bet. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Thanks . Re: Re: Want to get into Home Brewing - > If stainless steel leeches things into food then what are we > supposed to cook in? Doesn't Sally Fallon recommend using stainless > steel cookware? I don't think they make glass cookware do they??? I'm not sure, but I think Sally has expressed some new reservations about stainless steel. At any rate, they do make glass cookware, but maybe more to the point, enamelware is essentially glass-coated cookware, so enameled cast iron is probably your best bet. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 I use Visions glass cookware. you can get it on ebay or here http://www.visions-cookware.com/ I also use Corningware. > > If stainless steel leeches things into food then what are we supposed to cook in? Doesn't Sally Fallon recommend using stainless steel cookware? I don't think they make glass cookware do they??? > > > > > > > > As there seems to be increasing uncertainty about what might leech out > of stainless steel into foods or beverages (particularly acidic ones) > the warning against stainless steel is probably worth heeding, since > kombucha can become very acidic. I have no idea why brown glass would > be a problem, though. That doesn't seem to make any sense. > > - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 > I use Visions glass cookware. you can get it on ebay or here > http://www.visions-cookware.com/ Carolyn, When you go here and click on " buy now " it says they're out of stock. I've read several times that they no longer make glass cookware. Suze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Sounds like my house . I don't know what got into me this year. the last few years I only made kefir. A couple of months ago I moved into the ginger beer thing, then mead . This year I hope to make elderflower champagne and later, elderberry wine. I don't have enough dandelions, or I'd try that,too. > > This past year I make Hard Apple cider... (6 gallon bucket). Use 5 gallons apple cider, brown sugar (2#), 2 packages of yeast,,, Let it Ferment a month and put into gallon jugs to clarify.... Needed a couple airlocks, used some hose from the fish store... finally bottled it into beer bottles (sam b is good) (the ones that are not twist off) let it mellow a couple of months, taste testing it... Believe me it is not something you drink right away.... (makes fur patches on the back of your tongue)... Mine is mellowing out now.... Starting to taste good.. Of course taste testing the past couple of months has lowered the quantity (I'm learming as I go) > > Today I bought a 3 gallon Carboy to make mead (an old celtic drink -- Honey - water - yeast) (takes abt 2 years b4 you can drink... > > > All I am saying here is, try one thing at a time... No sense going and buying out the store.. Believe me they will try to sell you kits... You dont have to buy a lot of equipment... Keep it simple... Buy as you go... > > I'm having fun taking it one step at a time... > > In another month or so will make dandelion wine... Wish me luck..., blueberry wine etc... > > > > > > > > jkruer01 <jkruer01 (DOT) com> wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I am new to the list and new to style eating. I am > interested in getting started with home brewing. At first I want to > start simple and was thinking about getting started with Kefir Beer > and Kombucha. Then I wanted to branch into lacto-fermented cokes and > finally beer and wine. > > I want to make sure I enjoy doings this before I spend a couple > hundred bucks on equipment so I am trying to get started cheap. > > If anyone has any advice for a newbie brewer I would appreciate it. > > I was reading about Kefir Beer and if I am reading it correctly, it > sounds like I can simply add Kefir grains to a glass container of > Apple or Grape Juice and let it sit out for about 48 hours. Will > store bought juice work or do you have to make your own? > > Thanks, > > > ~~PEACE~~ > HippeeSandee > HippeeSandee' s Endless Mountains Realm > " People don't stop dancing because they get too old > People get old because they stop dancing " > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > You rock. That's why Blockbuster' s offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 That's just how I've been doing it. I hadn't seen this article, though, and it does explain why my last batch might have gone moldy. --- In , Kruer <jkruer01@...> wrote: > > As far as the soda goes, I was thinking more along the lines of lacto-fermented soda like what is described in this article over at Weston A Price's website: > http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/Realthing.html > > Thanks, > > Kruer > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I'm not sure. maybe they stopped making it but got so many requests they started again but are now out of stock. I bought my set many years ago. you could try ebay. here's a used piece I found on another site http://www.tias.com/cgi-bin/google.fcgi/itemKey=1922784551 > > > I use Visions glass cookware. you can get it on ebay or here > > http://www.visions-cookware.com/ > > Carolyn, > > When you go here and click on " buy now " it says they're out of stock. I've > read several times that they no longer make glass cookware. > > Suze > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Thrift and second-hand stores always have this stuff for a couple of dollars. (I'm currently building a corningware set with the old cornflower emblem on it. So cute!) Also, some pubs/bars sell big brew bottles to take home micro-brewed beer in. Wouldn't work for Kombucha, but perfect for whey-sodas. > > I'm not sure. maybe they stopped making it but got so many requests they started again but > are now out of stock. I bought my set many years ago. you could try ebay. > > here's a used piece I found on another site > http://www.tias.com/cgi-bin/google.fcgi/itemKey=1922784551 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 here is a Vision pan from Amazon.com http://tinyurl.com/479zpy > > > I use Visions glass cookware. you can get it on ebay or here > > http://www.visions-cookware.com/ > > Carolyn, > > When you go here and click on " buy now " it says they're out of stock. I've > read several times that they no longer make glass cookware. > > Suze > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Hard cider instructions including making wild yeast starter on: http://www.eattheweeds.com/www.EatTheWeeds.Com/EatTheWeeds.com/Entries/ 2010/10/22_CIDER,_HARD,_BUT_QUICK_AND_EASY.html accompanying video is helpful: /msearch? query=eattheweeds.com & charset=windows-1252 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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