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<was this the first op or second (collapsed lung)>

Second op, first collapsed lung. I am told collapsed lungs will be able to fully inflate in time.

With the breathing exercises, physio and the swimming I do then this should recover

fully in about 4 weeks. The trick is to get the echoli (can't spell but it's the sponge inside)

inflated with oxygen. I will be having a capacity test in a month.

You mentioned it is still sore when you breath. I know the feeling. My physio has said to

try to go beyond the pain a little each time I do the deep breathing excercises. (every half

hour) To be honest I feel it is getting better and I am slowly able to take in more air, but

not to the bottom of my lungs yet.

cheers

Gail (Stormy)

Date first band: Nov 16, 98.Height: 172 cm (5' 8")Weight then: 136 kg Weight now: 92 kg Total lost: 43.5 kg Date 2nd band: July 31, 00Fill: emptySurgeon: Prof O'Brien - Melbourne.

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Hi Gail was this the first op or second ( collapsed lung ), as I had a collapsed lung during the removal of my band 18 months ago and it is still sore when I breathe ( I have had a lung function test and all is OK ) but I am a bit paranoid about surgery again. If it was your second op then is there any one else on the list who has had a OP after having a collapsed lung ?????????????

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Thank you for that, .

Regards

At 17:39 1/09/2000 +1000, you wrote:

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>>The girl who was featured on ( the diet TV show ??? ) dose any one know

>>where she is at with her weight now or is she on this list ?????

>>just curious.

>

>The followup is on the ozband website.

>

>http://www.ozband.com/media_twg.html

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>

>Regards

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>The girl who was featured on ( the diet TV show ??? ) dose any one know

>where she is at with her weight now or is she on this list ?????

>just curious.

The followup is on the ozband website.

http://www.ozband.com/media_twg.html

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I remember that sad story, the girl was reduced to living on a mattress

in the lounge room, and the mother still provided her with food ( and they

reported that it was over eating that killed her ( Heart attack ) where

were the authorities then ??????????

melissa.perrow@... wrote:

Why should the obese child be

blamed....or the child's parents....Instead I believe it is society at

fault....we have received training programs that have help to curve racism,

sex discrimination, sexual orientation, and ppl with handicaps....isnt

it way overdue for the obese.

I think you are of the point

of the topic, we are talking about a child who is not fat or not obese

BUT!!! seriously in danger, nothing to do with the above statement.

I rebut

that statement...this whole topic began (by myself) because of the way

society has reacted to this story....it reminds me of case recently in

the usa ...where a mother was prosecuted for the manslaughter because her

obese 14yo died of a heart attack induced by obesity....if the topic was

annorexia the response would be of compassion & concern...and a willing

to assist....this is not the reaction that this story has received by our

society....(re: to the radio station)

Perrow

Market Analyst

Market Analysis and Forecasting

TXU Networks

Level 14, 452 Flinders Street

Melbourne 3000

Phone: +61 3 9229 6154

Fax:

+61 3 9229 6297

Email: melissa.perrow@...

Dorazio

01/09/2000 12:35

Please respond to ozband

To: ozbandegroups

cc:

Subject: Re: (no subject)

(ie...parents confirming that

there is something wrong with you...and how could you ever be excepted

in society looking like that)

Yes this is sad and is not

what I am on about !!!!!!!!!

Why should the obese child be

blamed....or the child's parents....Instead I believe it is society at

fault....we have received training programs that have help to curve racism,

sex discrimination, sexual orientation, and ppl with handicaps....isnt

it way overdue for the obese.

I think you are of the point

of the topic, we are talking about a child who is not fat or not obese

BUT!!! seriously in danger, nothing to do with the above statement.

melissa.perrow@...

wrote:

what a typicall response from

a person who experienced a normal childhood....did it occur to you that

some of us poor obese children were placed on diets as children....they

only thing they accomplished....was:

-lower self-esteem from the already

low level (ie...parents confirming that there is something wrong with you...and

how could you ever be excepted in society looking like that)

-greater weight gain in the future

(read any scientific study and youll discover dieting makes you fat)

-increasing the feeling of isolation

(the only sanctary an obese child has is their family....when the family

turns on you....you have no where to feel safe)

Why should the obese child be

blamed....or the child's parents....Instead I believe it is society at

fault....we have received training programs that have help to curve racism,

sex discrimination, sexual orientation, and ppl with handicaps....isnt

it way overdue for the obese.

Perrow

Market Analyst

Market Analysis and Forecasting

TXU Networks

Level 14, 452 Flinders Street

Melbourne 3000

Phone: +61 3 9229 6154

Fax:

+61 3 9229 6297

Email: melissa.perrow@...

Dorazio

01/09/2000 11:49

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To: "ozbandegroups" <ozbandegroups>

cc:

Subject: (no subject)

My

Groups | ozband

Main Page | Start

a new group!

At my children's school we have

a few ( 2 in particular ) very obese (

hate that word ) children .

These children are outcasts, they find it

hard to keep up with the other

kids and you can see they struggle in

everything they do. It is there

parents responsibility to help these

children regardless of why they

are over weight !!!!!!!!!!

If nothing is done they will

grow to be ( like us ) miserable about our

size and the difficulties we

have in life ( due to our weight )

I was not a fat child ( the

weight for me started several years ago

after the birth of my children

and giving up smoking ) but if I was a

fat child and fat adult then

I am sure I would be twice as miserable

about my weight as I am now.

I am not quite sure what I am

trying to say here but I think that

parents need to be more responsible

for OBESE children, obesity in

children doesn't just happen

( and it's dam dangerous ) its either over

eating or a medical condition

and they both have to be addressed.

Don't want to step on toes so

I hope no one takes this in a wrong way

:o)

just wanted to vent my bit about

the fat children issue.

I am glad some one is doing something

for the child ( who was taken from

her parents ) I just hope it

is done in a constructive way with out any

emotional dumped on the child.

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I agree totally with you !! Society has no compassion

for " fat people " , we are just seen as lazy and overindulgent. I

recently injured my ankle and one of my work colleages was heard to

have made a comment about my injury being my fault because " IF I

WASN'T SO FAT............. " Need I go on??

I'm not saying that the extra weight wasn't a contributing factor,

but it was not the only reason.

Yet to be banded

110kg

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Smurffy,

I am so glad you are all back safe at home. Jeff is probably right about the reaction. I was going to call but things up here are pretty crazy right now but calming down. I had my very first emg. Whahaa!!! Did I kick somebody in the face? I don't know how they can say some people don't feel a thing ... I would like to meet those super people and go live on there planet for a while. I on the other hand was not a good patient. I can't pass a light socket without getting an urge (joking). The man who was doing it said, "after a while you start to enjoy the pain." I think he was the one I kicked in the face LOL. I will wait to discuss the oh - so - splendid results with you when I visit. What are you doing for yourself right now? I think of you and Jeff all the time. I really hope you guys are finding some kind of outlet so you don't get burned out. I know it is really hard to ... but hey ... I have to say it, I worry.

Please take care,

Love,

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Smurffy

I'm glad the boys are home. It is too bad they couldn't have the muscle

biopsies while asleep.

My son frequently felt hot and had red ears, especially when stressed. Ask

about vomiting after surgery and not having meds work.

I'm glad this part is over for all of you.

laurie

> From: Mrsmurffy@...

> Reply-To:

> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 21:37:56 EST

> To:

> Subject: (no subject)

>

> Just a quick post. My two little ones are home from the hospital.

> surgery was Friday.. The got new port a caths but the muscle biopsies were

> not done. The surgeon had 5 surgeries back to back that morning and didnt

> have the time to do them. I was pleased though when he told me that he didnt

> have the time to do them right, and would rather wait till he had more time

> to assure they were done properly.

> My son got very sick from the fenatnyl they used to put him to sleep. He was

> vomiting for two days. they gave him zofran and another med that didnt help

> him at all.

> he is now home but he feels very hot but when I take his temp it is only 99.0

> yet hgis cheeck and body are very warm his face is also very red. My husband

> thinks it is a adverse effect of the fentanyl. who knows. he has never done

> this before.

> well gotta run

> smurffy

>

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>

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Smurffy,

Laurie is right, I had a TERRIBLE time with vomiting after my biopsy.

They kept giving me injections of drugs to help chemo patients with

nausea and it didn't touch my vomiting in any way shape or form. I

ended up getting it to stop with Tigan suppositories. Dr. C told me

later that I should have a Tigan drip WITH all surgeries in the future

to prevent this as all the vomiting compromises us even more than most

people.

As far as the temp thing goes, my daughter and my NORMAL temp for us is

96.8, so 99 is a temp and the red face and ears my daughter gets when

her autonomic system is out of whack. Push the Gatorade type stuff, at

least that is what helps us, but I'm not a doc as you know.

Hugs,

LilSis

Laureta Fitzgerald wrote:

>

> Smurffy

>

> I'm glad the boys are home. It is too bad they couldn't have the muscle

> biopsies while asleep.

>

> My son frequently felt hot and had red ears, especially when stressed. Ask

> about vomiting after surgery and not having meds work.

>

> I'm glad this part is over for all of you.

>

> laurie

>

> > From: Mrsmurffy@...

> > Reply-To:

> > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 21:37:56 EST

> > To:

> > Subject: (no subject)

> >

> > Just a quick post. My two little ones are home from the hospital.

> > surgery was Friday.. The got new port a caths but the muscle biopsies were

> > not done. The surgeon had 5 surgeries back to back that morning and didnt

> > have the time to do them. I was pleased though when he told me that he

didnt

> > have the time to do them right, and would rather wait till he had more time

> > to assure they were done properly.

> > My son got very sick from the fenatnyl they used to put him to sleep. He

was

> > vomiting for two days. they gave him zofran and another med that didnt help

> > him at all.

> > he is now home but he feels very hot but when I take his temp it is only

99.0

> > yet hgis cheeck and body are very warm his face is also very red. My

husband

> > thinks it is a adverse effect of the fentanyl. who knows. he has never

done

> > this before.

> > well gotta run

> > smurffy

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Will do!!

> From: TNsandy@...

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> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:27:56 EDT

> To:

> Subject: (no subject)

>

> Attn: Laurie:

> Would you please put me on " no mail " till further notice. We will be

> going out

> of town for awhile and I wouldn't have access to a computer. Hope to be

> reading

> " Mitoldies e-mails in the near future.

> Stay well everyone. You're in my prayers.

> Fondly, Sandy

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Hi Everyone - I work at an academic medical center where we provide PT in

addition, through our sports program, we offer fitness services that are not

skill-based PT, such as Ski Conditioning Classes, Golf Conditioning Classes,

Yoga classes, 1:1 personal training, etc. We do not bill insurance for these

classes; they are self-paid " services. "

We are wondering if any of you offer such classes, and how do you manage these

pts in terms of the following:

1.

Are participants of such classes considered PT " pts " or not?

*

In regards to Joint Commission, do the participants fall under Pt Care and

Assessment standards, or not?

2.

How do you document their participation in these classes?

3.

Do you have release of liability waivers?

Thank you very much for any information you can provide - Hillary

Hillary Duffy

University of Colorado Hospital

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