Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 I normally try to buy organic products but was wondering if pesticides or their residuals may make it through the brewing process in significant quantities of concern? This is the only mycotoxin that I will occasionally indulge for pleasure, but I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble to pay for organic beer and ale. I sampled some good pale ales and ales on my recent visit to Portland, but I don't think they were organic. At the moment, I'm indulging in a Lamar Street organic pale ale that I got on sale at WF for $5.99 a six pack, after my walk on a beautiful day today Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 - > It has been my experience that when I am truly low carb, alcohol has > no impact weight wise. I wish that were true for me! I drank a non-trivial amount of wine over winter, and I'm definitely stuck with the after-effects at the moment. Nothing lots and lots of tennis and a rigorous restriction of carbs won't fix, though, I hope. <g> - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 > LOL! The whole Pacific Northwest is heaven when it comes to beers! <snip> > Some Native Nutrition trivia: The first time I met Suze we had beer > and oysters at McCormick and Schmidt's in Seattle. Being a beer lover myself, I was indeed in heaven while in Seattle. Coincidentally, I made this very comment recently a guy in my local Ron Meetup group. Funny how it came up on the list shortly after I told a fellow East-coaster how heavenly the Pacific Northwest is when it comes to microbrews! Suze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Suze- > Being a beer lover myself, I was indeed in heaven while in Seattle. > Coincidentally, I made this very comment recently a guy in my local > Ron > Meetup group. Funny how it came up on the list shortly after I told > a fellow > East-coaster how heavenly the Pacific Northwest is when it comes to > microbrews! Apparently the west coast has many advantages over the east. I keep hearing how you practically can't sneeze without hitting a free tennis court over there, whereas here it's a major trek to get to the one set of courts on which I can play for more than an hour a day, and they're always crowded, too. Then again, while raw milk is legal in California, the quality of the available raw milk is pretty abysmal in my experience, whereas the stuff I get here is as good as any I've seen or tasted anywhere. Obviously what we have to do is create a 51st state with all the best virtues of the existing 50 and none of the drawbacks. <g> - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 > Apparently the west coast has many advantages over the east. I keep > hearing how you practically can't sneeze without hitting a free tennis > court over there, whereas here it's a major trek to get to the one set > of courts on which I can play for more than an hour a day, and they're > always crowded, too. Wouldn't this have something to do with the fact that you live in Harlem, NYC? > Obviously what we have to do is create a 51st state with all the best > virtues of the existing 50 and none of the drawbacks. <g> Haha! I could just see the endless, winless NN-style debate about choosing the political leadership of that state cancelling all other benefits. Suze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Idol <Idol@...> wrote: > > Being a beer lover myself, I was indeed in heaven while in Seattle. > > Coincidentally, I made this very comment recently a guy in my local > > Ron > > Meetup group. Funny how it came up on the list shortly after I told > > a fellow > > East-coaster how heavenly the Pacific Northwest is when it comes to > > microbrews! > > Apparently the west coast has many advantages over the east. I keep > hearing how you practically can't sneeze without hitting a free tennis > court over there, whereas here it's a major trek to get to the one set > of courts on which I can play for more than an hour a day, and they're > always crowded, too. I hadn't really thought about it but now that you mention it, there are lots of free tennis courts in the Pacific Northwest. > Then again, while raw milk is legal in > California, the quality of the available raw milk is pretty abysmal in > my experience, whereas the stuff I get here is as good as any I've > seen or tasted anywhere. Remember when you look at a map that although it isn't demarked as such, once you get past Northern California you are actually entering another country <bsg> There is some pretty good raw milk available in Washington. -- " A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. " Max Planck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 --- <slethnobotanist@...> wrote: > It has been my experience that when I am truly low carb, alcohol has > no impact weight wise. , I did eat pretty low-carb otherwise and I don't like sweet beers. I suspect that the ales I was drinking don't have much sugar, so it looks like your observation works for me too. The story might be different with sweet beers. And reports he had weight gain with wine consumption over the winter, but with the holidays, maybe he didn't stay as low-carb as normal? ? > At my first and only WAPF conference I vaguely remember searching > very hard for a place that had brews like the ones here in the > Pacific Northwest. Finally found a guy (bartender) who knew what I > was talking about and told me I probably would not find a comparable > selection that night. Both and Suze were along for that walk > down 18th street in Washington DC. God forbid if memory serves me > correctly we even ate some fast food pizza! Yeah, sometimes you have to take what you can get when it comes to food and beer. At least you had good company Maybe the next WAPF conference in San Francisco will have some better food and beer options nearby I bet Gene knows all the good places to go! I wonder if Tom Cowan likes beer or wine? Or maybe Prentice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 --- <slethnobotanist@...> wrote: > I should add that I tend to do a lot more walking when I'm out of > town for a vacation or conference, so I think that has something to > do with it as well. Also, when I'm away meat, veggies and loads of > fat dominate, so my low carb does not involve any other kind of > foods that might throw off that particular benefit. , I also did a fair amount of walking, probably close to my usual 2 to 3 miles a day at home. The Portland riverfront was great for that. I put some photos from one of my walks here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/oz4caster/sets/72157604475524186/ > > The story might be different with sweet beers. > > Forgive me , but what is a sweet beer? I'm guessing most popular commercial beers have a lot of sugar added at the end to make the beer taste sweeter. I'm not sure you're old enough to remember Schlitz beer, or something like or Corona today. These beers are too sweet for me. > Hey, this means Gene and could sit down over a glass of scotch > together :-) That might be even more entertaining than than the conference ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 - > The story might be different with sweet beers. And reports he > had weight gain with wine consumption over the winter, but with the > holidays, maybe he didn't stay as low-carb as normal? ? In fairness to the wine, it is true that I didn't stay as low-carb as I should and usually do, though it had nothing to do with the holidays and everything to do with a failed business partnership which is currently winding its way through the criminal court system and a resulting lapse of willpower and ensuing consumption of nuts and peanut butter, but during periods of otherwise-rigorous observance, I've noticed the same thing: when I indulge in beer, wine or spirits, my weight suffers for it. Of course that won't be true of everyone, though. > I bet Gene knows all the good places to go! I wonder if Tom Cowan > likes beer or wine? Or maybe Prentice? Also, 's living in the fairest city now, so I bet she knows a few good places to go. And I have a couple other friends in the vicinity who might be helpful, too. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 - > Putting this in perspective, because I'm an Orthodox Christian my > alcohol consumption comes to a little less than half the year (as does > my animal food consumption). You eat animal foods for less than half the year? Well, thank god I'm not an Orthodox Christian, then, because I'd be a physical wreck if I couldn't eat meat and other animal foods every day. <g> - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 - > I'm guessing most popular commercial beers have a lot of sugar added > at the end to make the beer taste sweeter. I'm not sure you're old > enough to remember Schlitz beer, or something like or Corona > today. These beers are too sweet for me. There are sweet microbrews and foreign beers too, not just mass-market swill like Schlitz. A few months ago I was at a beer bar and my brother bought me what I think was a raspberry lambic, which is to say a gag beer, because it was disgustingly sweet and syrupy. I have no idea whether it was made with added sugar or just raspberries in some form or other, but yuck! - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 , > > > The story might be different with sweet beers. > > > > Forgive me , but what is a sweet beer? > > I'm guessing most popular commercial beers have a lot of sugar added > at the end to make the beer taste sweeter. I'm not sure you're old > enough to remember Schlitz beer, or something like or Corona > today. These beers are too sweet for me. Oh okay. I don't know. I haven't had something like that for years. Are they really beers???<weg> > > Hey, this means Gene and could sit down over a glass of scotch > > together :-) > > That might be even more entertaining than than the conference ;-) LOL! -- " A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. " Max Planck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 , > Also, 's living in the fairest city now, so I bet she knows a > few good places to go. And I have a couple other friends in the > vicinity who might be helpful, too. Yeah that is who I meant even though I didn't mention her by name. -- " A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. " Max Planck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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