Re: Re: Raw Egg Safety -Nitpicking ad naseum

[Guest guest]

The notion that a few posts actually keep you from feeding your

family is outright ludicrous. If you really think that my posts are

wasting so much of your time (I suspect that this is directed at me),

just filter me. I don't mind. Really.

Of course it's outright ludicrous. That's my?point..the picking apart of an

email word by word instead of possibly taking it as a cohesive thought. My

meaning about feeding my family, for clarification, ?being that I am busy

running a house and raising a child with a gluten-intolerance and I get very

little time of any kind to do the research I need to do, computer included. I

imagine most of us are that busy but in different ways.

And?no, it is not?directed at you.I don't even remember who started the thread.

I'm just saying that squabbling, like this flipping email conversation!, takes

time away from real issues and things people want to discuss. Hence my idea for

the nitpicking header (which was meant to be funny as well as true, if we're

allowed humor here). Of course I can skip and delete messages. No one makes me

read the emails. I don't want to filter anyone.

It's when people veer off from the core discussion and take things personally

and get offended? and snarky and then start discussing that, that's what get's a

bit old. This?email I'm currently writing?and you all are reading is a perfect

example.

And I never said that facts don't matter, as you wrote. Gosh, now I'm being

nitpicky. Hey, I think I like it )

I love the discussions, even the disagreements and the fun banter on this site.

How about forget I said anything. Let's all keep getting our knickers in a twist

over percieved insults and slights. it makes me feel young again..... like

around 10th grade (and THAT my friends, was meant to be funny).

Enough said, over and out

p.s. Hey Gene, will you promise to not be upset if I give you my wonderful

coconut ice cream recipe?

Re: Re: Raw Egg Safety

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> Jeez, Gene, who cares?

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> > But you're acting as if it's very important...

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[Guest guest]

Danae,

> And?no, it is not?directed at you.I don't even remember who started the

> thread. I'm just saying that squabbling, like this flipping email

> conversation!, takes time away from real issues and things people want to

> discuss. Hence my idea for the nitpicking header (which was meant to be

> funny as well as true, if we're allowed humor here). Of course I can skip

> and delete messages. No one makes me read the emails. I don't want to filter

> anyone.

> It's when people veer off from the core discussion and take things

> personally and get offended? and snarky and then start discussing that,

> that's what get's a bit old. This?email I'm currently writing?and you all

> are reading is a perfect example.

I think the whole " nitpicking " thing resulted from some

miscommunication. I think Gene was trying to make the point that if

evidence suggests raw egg whites should not be consumed, or that egg

whites should not be consumed, it is silly to take a contrary position

based on the fact that the white and the yolk are found together in

nature.

However, perhaps because of the way he stated it, or the way some

people read it, or because of the way Allyn made the original point,

everyone zeroed in on the parts of Gene's post that were least

relevant to his main point -- i.e. what " god " means or whether " god "

is silly and so on. So yes, some nitpicking developed, but I think it

was largely a misunderstanding.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Hi,

> I didn't think it was silly at all - and I was interested in seeing

> the follow up discussions - about the eggs - not semantics. I was

> fairly certain that somewhere in the WAPF articles or in NT I've seen

> it recommended that proteins should be consumed with the fat they are

> attached to. Eggs specifically mentioned. So if this was not great

> advice, I was interested to learn more.

No one was arguing that one should eat the white without the fat its

attached to (yolk). The yolk is both fat and protein together. The

white is just protein. The yolk is full of nutrients, while the white

is relatively poor in nutrients and very high in anti-nutrients. You

need to cook the white in order to neutralize the antinutrients, but

the effect isn't total (e.g. ~70%), and by some cooking methods, it's

relatively modest (e.g. 30%), so the only way to truly minimize the

antinutrients is to not eat the white, and to afford any protection,

certainly not eat it raw.

Now the principal antinutrient is anti-biotin, and some people

apparently make lots of biotin in the gut, others not so much, so it's

not going to affect everyone the same.

But, while the idea that one should always eat the fat that the

protein is associated with makes sense, it makes much less sense to

say one should always eat the antinutrients that the nutrients are

associated with. The basic WAPF paradigm is that one should always

neutralize or discard the antinutrients.

Chris