Re: WAPF way of eating and am losing weight!

[Guest guest]

WAP isn't a single way of eating as the tribes documented in NAPD had

different dietaries. Are you low carbing? Could you give us an idea of

what you eat on a daily basis?

Thanks!

-Lana

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 9:31 PM, jungleen <jungleen@...> wrote:

> Hi All!

> I am new to this group although I have been following WAP principals for

> about 5 years now.

> I just had a baby last year and am more dedicated to WAP way of eating and

> preparing foods

> for myself and my family but I keep losing weight! This also happened when

> I first started

> following WAP. I'm very petite (normally around 100 lbs) but my weight is

> dropping below

> 95lbs which is alarming to me (and those around me). Has anyone

> experienced this too when

> following WAP? What would you suggest to gain weight back on but in a

> healthy WAP way?

> My husband thinks I should pig out on sugar and white flour which is

> certainly not what I

> want to do. I am still nursing so nutrition is very important to me. Any

> suggestions is

> appreciated!

>

> Jungleen

[Guest guest]

Hi Lana,

I do eat lots of carbs. Unfortunately chips (organic corn, organic potato, taro

chips, rice

chips, plantain chips which are my fave and i found some fried in palm oil) are

my

downfall. I eat them almost everyday (yikes i know, but that is my one vice).

Anyways, in

the morning i don't have time to make anything (got to feed my 6 mo. old son and

then jet

off to work) so i nibble on snacks at my desk until lunch. Usually fruit (fresh

or dried),

nuts, chips or these organic dehydrated sprouted bars i just found at whole

foods. I eat a

wide variety of foods. Lunch is usually leftovers from dinner the night before.

Could be

soup, leftover chicken, lamb or beef and rice, sometimes i make a wrap (with

eggs,

cheese, & bacon, or all veggie, or tuna or egg salad). I usually have 1-2 eggs

with whatever

i have for lunch. I have yogurt and/or kefir everyday. Dinner will typically be

a protein

(beef, chicken, fish, or lamb) with a vegetable and/or salad, and either rice or

millet.

Sometimes potatoes instead of the rice or millet. If I'm still hungry after

dinner, I have

chips. (And sometimes a LOT of chips......eek i really need to cut down on

this). I don't eat

a lot of bread, maybe once a week of sprouted or sourdough. I do eat waffles

(wheat free)

about twice a week. I don't eat a lot of fruit either except for bananas. I do

eat lots of

veggies and drink tons of water. I don't drink much else. I started drinking a

little bit of

kombucha and I am starting to drink raw milk with dinner to add in some

calories. I'm

thinking I should add more caloric beverages to my meals. I tend to eat light

during the

day and have a big, big dinner at night. I cook in EVOO, lard, coconut oil, and

butter. I just

got some bison tallow from the farmer's market that i will render and cook in as

well. I

avoid sugar, white flour, and processed foods. In fact I don't eat many sweets

at all, just

fruit if I need something sweet. I definitely crave salty over sweet. Anyways,

hope this

gives you all a good idea....let me know if you need more details!

Thanks for your help!

Jungleen

--- In , " Lana Gibbons " <lana.m.gibbons@...>

wrote:

>

> WAP isn't a single way of eating as the tribes documented in NAPD had

> different dietaries. Are you low carbing? Could you give us an idea of

> what you eat on a daily basis?

>

> Thanks!

>

> -Lana

>

[Guest guest]

Jungleen,

I too had this problem. And I am pregnant. Instead of gaining 4 lbs in a

month I lost 5 lbs.

So what I did was add carbs back in.

I was eating basically just fats and protein and some veggies.

I needed to add in some breads and potatoes etc.

And it worked.

I am also 102 lbs. Actually when I started my pregnancy I was 102 and now I

am 119-120 finally. And 4 weeks to go. the doctor said I was underweight

when I started so wanted me to gain 35 lbs.

Well guess thats not going to happen.

But I may make it to 20 lbs.

But definately increase some healthy carbs. that did the trick for me.

HTH

MIchelle

[Guest guest]

> Jungleen,

> I too had this problem. And I am pregnant. Instead of gaining 4 lbs in a

> month I lost 5 lbs.

>

> So what I did was add carbs back in.

> I was eating basically just fats and protein and some veggies.

So you are petite too! I do eat lots of carbs (see my post about what I eat

typically eat) but

maybe I still need to increase even more. My weakness is chips. (didn't you say

once that

your weakness was ice cream?!) Mine is salty chips and I have them almost every

day. That in

itself I would think is enough carbs.....but now i think about it, maybe they

aren't carbs but

fried vegetables!! I don't eat a lot of bread so I should probably add more of

that in.

thank you for the advice and good luck with your pregnancy and birth! I'm glad

to hear that

you have put some more weight on.

Jungleen

[Guest guest]

, didn't you say you had symptoms of hyperthyroid? I would

look into that.

It is very common for women to have an iodine deficiency after

pregnancy and nursing. Both hypothyroid and hyperthyroid is caused by

iodine deficiency.

Ann Marie

On Apr 14, 2008, at 2:13 PM, and wrote:

> Jungleen,

> I too had this problem. And I am pregnant. Instead of gaining 4 lbs

> in a

> month I lost 5 lbs.

>

> So what I did was add carbs back in.

> I was eating basically just fats and protein and some veggies.

[Guest guest]

>

> > Jungleen,

> > I too had this problem. And I am pregnant. Instead of gaining 4 lbs

> > in a

> > month I lost 5 lbs.

> >

> > So what I did was add carbs back in.

> > I was eating basically just fats and protein and some veggies.

>

My OB tested my TSH and said I was right smack dab in the middle of

normal.

I was very surprised.

I am gaining now. Slowly but surely. Symptoms have improved somewhat

but not really sure why. )

Who knows how reliable those thyroid tests are.

He didn't even test the T3 or T4. Said we didn't need to since the TSH

tested fine.

[Guest guest]

Yes, those tests are very inaccurate. I have one friend who is

hypothyroid -- probably has been since her teen years (she's 32 now).

She had an enlarged thyroid as a teen. So every year she asks the

doctor to check her thyroid. He always does -- and it always comes

back " normal " . But it's not normal. She has all the symptoms of

hypothyroid (chronic fatigue, low sex drive, frequent urination, can't

lose weight, weight around the middle, etc.).

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/?PHPSESSID=d9f0803305aa\

9cbb915a87211964d60f

I am doing a urine test to test for iodine deficiency.

Ann Marie

On Apr 15, 2008, at 4:47 AM, luvmyblessings wrote:

>>>

>>

>> My OB tested my TSH and said I was right smack dab in the middle of

> normal.

>

> I was very surprised.

>

> I am gaining now. Slowly but surely. Symptoms have improved somewhat

> but not really sure why. )

>

> Who knows how reliable those thyroid tests are.

>

> He didn't even test the T3 or T4. Said we didn't need to since the TSH

> tested fine.

[Guest guest]

Hmmm, just wondering why the 2 posts I submitted

yesterday are still not showing up on this thread?!

Jungleen

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[Guest guest]

The TSH test only tell the doctor that the Pitutary gland wants more

or less thyroid hormone. It tell nothing about the functioning of

the thyroid.

The link Anne Marie gave gives good advice as to the tests to be run,

the most important being Free T4 and Free T3....

Anne, has your friend been tested for Hashimoto's? I swore I had a

thyroid problem for years... I was finally dx'd after over 20 years

of suffering when my thyroid function went so low as to be

practically non-existent.... Hashimoto's causes the thyroid to swing

between hyper and hypo, eventually burning it out... rather alot like

being bi-polar.....with alot of pain....and occasionally falling into

the normal range... especially if you get pregnant. For some reason

thyroid function normalizes at that time in woman with Hashimoto's.

And of course, the docs can't find anything and refer you to a

psychiatrist.

C.

>

> Yes, those tests are very inaccurate. I have one friend who is

> hypothyroid -- probably has been since her teen years (she's 32

now).

> She had an enlarged thyroid as a teen. So every year she asks the

> doctor to check her thyroid. He always does -- and it always comes

> back " normal " . But it's not normal. She has all the symptoms of

> hypothyroid (chronic fatigue, low sex drive, frequent urination,

can't

> lose weight, weight around the middle, etc.).

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/?

PHPSESSID=d9f0803305aa9cbb915a87211964d60f

>

> I am doing a urine test to test for iodine deficiency.

>

> Ann Marie

>

[Guest guest]

Has anyone here heard of the 's Temperature Symdrome? It supposedly

mimics a thyroid problem but can't be detected by the usual tests.

http://www.mall-net.com/cathcart/wilsons.html

Kim

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote:

> The TSH test only tell the doctor that the Pitutary gland wants more

> or less thyroid hormone. It tell nothing about the functioning of

> the thyroid.

>

> The link Anne Marie gave gives good advice as to the tests to be run,

> the most important being Free T4 and Free T3....

>

> Anne, has your friend been tested for Hashimoto's? I swore I had a

> thyroid problem for years... I was finally dx'd after over 20 years

> of suffering when my thyroid function went so low as to be

> practically non-existent.... Hashimoto's causes the thyroid to swing

> between hyper and hypo, eventually burning it out... rather alot like

> being bi-polar.....with alot of pain....and occasionally falling into

> the normal range... especially if you get pregnant. For some reason

> thyroid function normalizes at that time in woman with Hashimoto's.

> And of course, the docs can't find anything and refer you to a

> psychiatrist.

>

> C.

>

>

>

> >

> > Yes, those tests are very inaccurate. I have one friend who is

> > hypothyroid -- probably has been since her teen years (she's 32

> now).

> > She had an enlarged thyroid as a teen. So every year she asks the

> > doctor to check her thyroid. He always does -- and it always comes

> > back " normal " . But it's not normal. She has all the symptoms of

> > hypothyroid (chronic fatigue, low sex drive, frequent urination,

> can't

> > lose weight, weight around the middle, etc.).

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/?

>

PHPSESSID=d9f0803305aa9cbb915a87211964d60f<http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/\

recommended-labwork/?PHPSESSID=d9f0803305aa9cbb915a87211964d60f>

> >

> > I am doing a urine test to test for iodine deficiency.

> >

> > Ann Marie

> >

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jungleen, not sure if I asked you this before but do you have any

other symptoms -- things that are bothering you?

If you don't have any other troubling symptoms (which could signal a

thryoid imbalance -- this is the usual suspect), I would just wonder

how much you are eating since you are still breast feeding. Breast

feeding does burn a lot of calories.

Ann Marie

On Apr 6, 2008, at 6:31 PM, jungleen wrote:

> Hi All!

> I am new to this group although I have been following WAP principals

> for about 5 years now.

> I just had a baby last year and am more dedicated to WAP way of

> eating and preparing foods

> for myself and my family but I keep losing weight! This also

> happened when I first started

> following WAP. I'm very petite (normally around 100 lbs) but my

> weight is dropping below

> 95lbs which is alarming to me (and those around me). Has anyone

> experienced this too when

[Guest guest]

Oops sent too quick -- I shouldn't have just said thyroid. Thyroid/

adrenals -- since they are tied so closely. Hormonal imbalance.

Ann Marie

[Guest guest]

I used to think CHIPS could be considered " healthy " because the brand I bought

only had 3 seemingly harmless ingredients. Organic corn, sunflower oil and sea

salt. In and of themselves they may be harmless (except sunflower oil which is

high in Omega 6.) Then I dug a little deeper. When chips (and other salty,

high heat processed snacky nonfoods) are made, the processing procedures cause

ACRYLAMIDES to form. These are carcinogenic.

http://www.cspinet.org/new/200206251.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide

Additionally, there are glutamates (brain excitotoxins) in these kinds of

products. It, too, is created in the manufacturing process.

http://www.vitalearth.org/MSG.htm

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