Re: question about saturated fats, for Chris and maybe other folk

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On 10/28/08, michael g <tropical@...> wrote:

> How do I successfully get someone to realize that saturated fats are

> not automatically bad? What are the pros and cons of them? The

> person I want to convince has spent years doing lab research on the

> effects of saturated fats on artery plaque, in mice. I may be out of

> my depth on this, she knows her medical science probably better than

> me, at least in this relatively narrow area. Is there a good website

> for this? Chris? Anybody? I know about your website, but I'd

> like to have some others, in addition to yours. Thanks, people.

I can't really answer your question unless I understand what her

beliefs about saturated fats are and what evidence she has been

looking at.

Chris

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Hi,

 

  In all due respect, it is not the fats per se, as much as the balance

there-in.  Science is always changing, & growing concurrent with the spirit of

the times.  The error that occurs everyday in science is the gross assumption

that all people metabolize the same, that calories are a proven theory, & that

we humans are placed into a cookie cutter model of conform or perish.  Instead,

let us implement individualized reactions to fats with respect to our particular

ancestral constitution & time proven individuality.  In that way maybe science

will become less of an industry & more of a benefit to us as a human species.

Well performed is better than well stated...,dedicated to all people everywhere,

in all countries, of all ages & all professions & all schools of thought, who

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> How do I successfully get someone to realize that saturated fats are

> not automatically bad? What are the pros and cons of them? The

> person I want to convince has spent years doing lab research on the

> effects of saturated fats on artery plaque, in mice. I may be out of

> my depth on this, she knows her medical science probably better than

> me, at least in this relatively narrow area. Is there a good website

> for this? Chris? Anybody? I know about your website, but I'd

> like to have some others, in addition to yours. Thanks, people.

I can't really answer your question unless I understand what her

beliefs about saturated fats are and what evidence she has been

looking at.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Direct this person to all the great articles on the WAPF site, Mercola,

Taubes'/Barry Groves' books, articles and of course Nutrition and

Physical Degeneration.

I'm curious as to what kinds of saturated fats she is feeding mice. For

example, are they eating natural butter or something hydrogenated like

crisco or store-bought lard???

Good luck!

--- In , " michael g " <tropical@...>

wrote:

>

> How do I successfully get someone to realize that saturated fats are

> not automatically bad? What are the pros and cons of them? The

> person I want to convince has spent years doing lab research on the

> effects of saturated fats on artery plaque, in mice. I may be out of

> my depth on this, she knows her medical science probably better than

> me, at least in this relatively narrow area. Is there a good website

> for this? Chris? Anybody? I know about your website, but

I'd

> like to have some others, in addition to yours. Thanks, people.

>

[Guest guest]

--- <ginavoce25@...> wrote:

> Direct this person to all the great articles on the WAPF site,

> Mercola, Taubes'/Barry Groves' books, articles and of course

> Nutrition and Physical Degeneration.

, in addition to what suggested, have your friend read

Colpo's " The Great Cholesterol Con " . It has a section

debunking the saturated-fat-is-bad-for-you fat myth.

http://www.thegreatcholesterolcon.com/

Also, here's a bit by Colpo's good buddy Dr Eades

" Katanic Verse "

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/lipid-hypothesis/saturated-fat-debate/

Here's the link to the WAPF know your fats page:

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html

[Guest guest]

> I can't really answer your question unless I understand what her

> beliefs about saturated fats are and what evidence she has been

> looking at.

>

> Chris

>

She did research in a lab that showed that saturated fats caused

artierla plaque in mice. I immediate thought that

a. mice are mainly herbivores, and humans are not

b. I bet the saturated fats used were of very poor quality, and

over-processed

I wondered if you or someone else had maybe seen some of this type

of research, and could point me at some writings that debunk it.

Complex biochemistry jargon is no problems, she knows her stuff,

relatively. Simpler stuff is fine too, both together is fine.