Re: RELIGION yoga and vegetarianism...

[Guest guest]

On 3/21/08, cbrown2008 <cbrown2008@...> wrote:

> Good question - does mention of a physical/spiritual split,

> automatically imply religion. I would say yes.

Well it would be quite silly and incredibly biased to make a

conversation about Christianity use the RELIGION tag and not a

conversation about yoga. I think if I said, " Christianity isn't a

religion it is an pathway toward ontological unity with God through

the God-Man Jesus Christ so this discussion does not need the RELIGION

tag, " people would start wondering what actually *did* need the tag.

LOL.

So I think you are right. :-)

Chris

[Guest guest]

--- Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote:

> Well it would be quite silly and incredibly biased to make a

> conversation about Christianity use the RELIGION tag and not a

> conversation about yoga.

I'd like to know why eating meat should be any less spiritual than

eating vegetables. Both are of this earth. I would think fasting

might be a better way to open spiritual avenues, because then you, at

least temporarily, are dropping some of your ties to this earth. You

would still have to drink water though, or you wouldn't be here very

much longer

[Guest guest]

On 3/21/08, <oz4caster@...> wrote:

> > Well it would be quite silly and incredibly biased to make a

> > conversation about Christianity use the RELIGION tag and not a

> > conversation about yoga.

> I'd like to know why eating meat should be any less spiritual than

> eating vegetables. Both are of this earth. I would think fasting

> might be a better way to open spiritual avenues, because then you, at

> least temporarily, are dropping some of your ties to this earth. You

> would still have to drink water though, or you wouldn't be here very

> much longer

Are you directing this question at me? I'm not sure, because you are

quoting me, but seem to be referring to what others were saying.

In case you are, I don't think that eating meat is less spiritual than

abstaining from meat, but both have their proper place in the

spiritual life, just as eating and not eating also have their proper

places. I can expand if you're interested.

Chris

[Guest guest]

--- <oz4caster@...> wrote:

> > I'd like to know why eating meat should be any less spiritual than

> > eating vegetables. Both are of this earth. I would think fasting

> > might be a better way to open spiritual avenues, because then you,

> > at least temporarily, are dropping some of your ties to this

> > earth. You would still have to drink water though, or you wouldn't

> > be here very much longer

>

--- Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote:

> Are you directing this question at me? I'm not sure, because you

> are quoting me, but seem to be referring to what others were saying.

I quoted you because you put the RELIGION tag on this thread.

My question is to anyone.

> In case you are, I don't think that eating meat is less spiritual

> than abstaining from meat, but both have their proper place in the

> spiritual life, just as eating and not eating also have their proper

> places. I can expand if you're interested.

I agree. I'm curious if anyone believes that being vegetarian is more

spiritual than being an omnivore and if so, why. It's my

understanding that there are some religions, like Hinduism and

Buddhism that favor vegetarianism as being more spiritual.

[Guest guest]

> I agree. I'm curious if anyone believes that being vegetarian is more

> spiritual than being an omnivore and if so, why. It's my

> understanding that there are some religions, like Hinduism and

> Buddhism that favor vegetarianism as being more spiritual.

I don't believe that being vegetarian is more spiritual than being an omnivore.

There are

plenty of very spiritual meat eaters (Dalai Lama, for example) and even more

vegetarians

who are not spiritual (but who claim to be). Also, many people often confuse

being

spiritual and being religious. Being Hindu and not eating meat doesn't make a

person any

more spiritual than any non-religious omnivore who is truly spiritual.

We didn't stop eating meat because we " had to " , according to some silly

religious rules,

which again, I think religions are nothing, but a whole bunch of silly rules,

that can be

damaging to your personal growth, physical body and your mind. And I've never

considered my going back to eating meat as a " rule braking " or " sin " or whatever

other

silly words religions can use - I did it because that's what my body told me to

do and that

is much more important that any " shoulds " out there. And my husband is not

eating meat,

because his body tells him not to, and again, not because or any silly rules. He

makes his

choices every day, according to his bodily needs and nothing else. He is a free

spirit and

noone can ever tell him what to do or eat.

Elena

[Guest guest]

Hi Elena,

>. And I've

> never

> considered my going back to eating meat as a " rule braking " or " sin " or

> whatever other

> silly words religions can use -

This is tangential to your point, but the word " sin, " or at least the

Greek word " amartias " from which it is translated, does not mean

" rule-breaking " but rather " to miss the mark. " It is the word you'd

use if you were, for example, playing darts and you missed the bull's

eye.

Chris