Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I was hearing that over a Dallas station last night. Low Fat Diets Just read a 10 year study where the results showed that older people who ate low fat had no better chance of being cancer free than people on regular diets. It was hilarious to read all of the groups who chimed in and said that the $415 million study wasn't definitive (all of the usual suspects, American Heart Assoc., etc). Cancer must have come from eating fat when they were young--LOL. They also found that colon cancer is not caused by eating red meat. Organizations have steadily moved away from touting that fat causes health problems other than calorie count. You won't here that in the main stream though. Too much money to be made in low fat diets, big soy, and big wheat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I get the New York Times paper by e-mail every day. They had a big article about this study. I didn't see any rebuttles in the paper. The Atkins diet has also been written about positively in the last few months. Eggs have been shown to be not so bad after all. GEE!! maybe somebody is finally getting it. Diet (in the sense of eating correctly) really is important. from Canada (and China) Maddviking@... wrote: Just read a 10 year study where the results showed that older people who ate low fat had no better chance of being cancer free than people on regular diets. It was hilarious to read all of the groups who chimed in and said that the $415 million study wasn't definitive (all of the usual suspects, American Heart Assoc., etc). Cancer must have come from eating fat when they were young--LOL. They also found that colon cancer is not caused by eating red meat. Organizations have steadily moved away from touting that fat causes health problems other than calorie count. You won't here that in the main stream though. Too much money to be made in low fat diets, big soy, and big wheat. --------------------------------- - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 In a message dated 2/8/2006 8:19:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, monika_vidas@... writes: The ironic thing is I got a copy of Canada's food guide at work as part of their health initiative. I opened it up and grains are at the bottom of the pyramid. That's the sad thing. The food pyramid was changed for the worse. I truly believe vegetarians in Government had a hand in this because there is NO scientific justification. In fact, studies are goring these sacred cows right and left. I know many people of all different ages who are confused and nervous. Most of them do agree to one thing, though, and that's that the BTD is just " too hard " . Hey, they think that if they get sick, they can just take a pill and whatever made them sick wasn't diet related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 > Just read a 10 year study where the results showed that older people who ate > low fat had no better chance of being cancer free than people on regular > diets. That's not news. Cancer has to do with inflammation not fat. Some fats are anti-inflammatory, others are inflammatory and eating too little fat is most inflammatory of all considering every cell in the body needs a phospho-lipid (lipid=fat) layer around it:-)) Why do they waste so much money on " research " of this sort when good research has already supplied the answers? That money could be much better spent supplying the world with more olive oil, nuts and pumpkin seeds. No doubt it was funded by some interest group like canola or soy oil......? > Cancer must have come from eating fat when they were > young--LOL. Aha!!! so it was that beef sausage and egg I had for breakfast before riding 14 miles up the mountain by bicycle to school? Yeah right! I only wish I had not fallen into the " fat makes you fat " trap myself many years later. I ate so low fat that I had no oil for tears to lubricate and it was wrecking my eyes!!! Did that for several years before I became extremely ill (including breast cancer, but that's gone now thank goodness). Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc, AASCA, MCSSA, D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I also heard a lot about this study today and thought it was funny. I wonder if most of the participants were O's. I remember when it was claimed that the Pritikin diet worked very well for 30% of the people on it and someone on here remarked that it is probably because 30% were A's and did well on a vegetarian type diet. Regards, Sharon (Ontario) Canada Re: Low Fat Diets > Saw the item on this morning's news (Canadian) ... Makes me giggle. > > The ironic thing is I got a copy of Canada's food guide at work as part > of their health initiative. I opened it up and grains are at the bottom of > the pyramid. I laughed and told my colleagues that if I ate that many > servings of grain (cereals, breads, muffins, crackers, etc.), I'd weigh > twice as much. > > I eat so many eggs ... at least 3 a day, everyday. And my recent > cholesterol test (I'm 36) revealed that everything is absolutely normal. > > > Hilchie <maryhilchie@...> wrote: > I get the New York Times paper by e-mail every day. They had a big > article about this study. I didn't see any rebuttles in the paper. The > Atkins diet has also been written about positively in the last few months. > Eggs have been shown to be not so bad after all. GEE!! maybe somebody is > finally getting it. Diet (in the sense of eating correctly) really is > important. > > from Canada (and China) > > > > > --------------------------------- > Find your next car at Canada Autos > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I remember that also. Re: Low Fat Diets > Saw the item on this morning's news (Canadian) ... Makes me giggle. > > The ironic thing is I got a copy of Canada's food guide at work as part > of their health initiative. I opened it up and grains are at the bottom of > the pyramid. I laughed and told my colleagues that if I ate that many > servings of grain (cereals, breads, muffins, crackers, etc.), I'd weigh > twice as much. > > I eat so many eggs ... at least 3 a day, everyday. And my recent > cholesterol test (I'm 36) revealed that everything is absolutely normal. > > > Hilchie <maryhilchie@...> wrote: > I get the New York Times paper by e-mail every day. They had a big > article about this study. I didn't see any rebuttles in the paper. The > Atkins diet has also been written about positively in the last few months. > Eggs have been shown to be not so bad after all. GEE!! maybe somebody is > finally getting it. Diet (in the sense of eating correctly) really is > important. > > from Canada (and China) > > > > > --------------------------------- > Find your next car at Canada Autos > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 >The food pyramid was changed for the worse. I truly > believe vegetarians in Government had a hand in this because there is NO > scientific justification. Vegetarians in government? Naw. They don't have any money. You gotta have money to have power. Who needs scientific justification when you have a nice big campaign contribution burning a hole in your pocket? No, my guess is that the funding for the food pyramid comes from companies like Kellog and Quaker. Meat and veggies just don't require enough processing. There's not enough people with their fingers in the economic pie. Grower-Packer-Distributor-Store versus Grower-Packer-Distributor-Factory-2nd Distributor-Store. Plus there's the Advertising companies. There's not near as much advertising going on with those bins of carrots in the produce section or the meat at the meat counter as there is with box of cornflakes. And here's a shocking thought: a consumer could potentially even *gasp* grow their own carrots or raise their own livestock!!!!!!! Now who would make money on that???? No we gotta keep them believing they need their Cocopuffs and Whole Grain Breakfast Bars in the shiney packages. -Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 In a message dated 2/9/2006 6:29:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, furryboots@... writes: Have you seen the new General Mills ads on TV pointing out how the new food pyramid says to eat MORE (of their) grains? No question there but why do the American Heart Association and the CDC fight it? Are they funded by big grain? As an aside, I have a daughter and a cousin who work for Sigma at different ends of the country. They've told me what meds most people take. It's also astounding how many meds they take. I was shocked to find out that millions take meds for reflux. When that commercial comes on where they say that orange juice gives them reflux, I want to scream at the TV and say, " STOP DRINKING ORANGE JUICE, IDIOT!! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 In a message dated 2/9/2006 7:59:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, aduladi@... writes: ha so true... i have to keep telling my kids just cause the commericial says it's good for you... ugh. and they are definitely package driven.. Dry dog food originated from the cereal company taking grain leavings they couldn't sell people and dipping them in fat that they couldn't process for people. That's why dogs get fat. When I see packaged food for kids, I think of toxic waste dipped in corn syrup and we wonder why kids are fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 linnsmama wrote: > Vegetarians in government? Naw. They don't have any money. You > gotta have money to have power. Right. Read General Mills and Monsanto:-) Have you seen the new General Mills ads on TV pointing out how the new food pyramid says to eat MORE (of their) grains? Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc, AASCA, MCSSA, D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 --- linnsmama <mtnmusicmama@...> wrote: > Breakfast Bars in the shiney packages. > -Robin ha so true... i have to keep telling my kids just cause the commericial says it's good for you... ugh. and they are definitely package driven.. put a cartoon character on there ... and it's no 1 on the list.. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 --- Maddviking@... wrote: food for kids, I think of > toxic waste dipped in corn syrup and we wonder why > kids are fat. > I used to love Kelloggs Frosted Flakes when I was a kid .. thought I'd try them again when I was visiting my sister a few years ago...OMG it was disgusting... they have obviously changed .. (I'm guessing from cane sugar to Corn Syrup) .. I was soooo bumming... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Maddviking@... wrote: > In a message dated 2/9/2006 6:29:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, > furryboots@... writes: > Have you seen the new General Mills ads on TV pointing out how the new > food pyramid says to eat MORE (of their) grains? > > No question there but why do the American Heart Association and the CDC [not] > fight it? Are they funded by big grain? Dunno Max but I do know big grain has giant influence over the FDA so the influence may come that way (and/or other ways in addition). > I was shocked to find out that millions > take meds for reflux. When that commercial comes on where they say that orange > juice gives them reflux, I want to scream at the TV and say, " STOP DRINKING > ORANGE JUICE, IDIOT!! " Not to mention the aspirin a day theory! Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc, AASCA, MCSSA, D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Hope everyone is doing well and life is good! I constantly come across people who are on low-fat diets and feel like it is the only way to live. I write the blog www.feelgoodeats.com and I am planning on doing a post that will kind of refute the low-fat craze and offer some advice, alternatives, and recommendations. If you have any personal history switching from a low-fat diet to a more traditional diet, or have had any success working with others to transition to a more traditional diet it would be great to hear your story. I am really trying to target this post specifically to weight loss although I know the health benefits of a traditional diet goes way beyond that. Thanks for your time! - Sue Bette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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