Re: Re: high fructose ads & about HYDROGENATION & lar

[Guest guest]

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> Too bad they don't require the amount of polyunsaturated fat to be

> labeled. That's a lot more important than the amount of saturated fat!

In at least some contexts, it is a lot more important than the amount

of trans fat as well:

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/reprint/51/3/441

In the above-linked study, the toxic and diabetes-producing effects of

alloxan were directly proportional to the unsaturation of the fat in

the diet. Saturated fat was protective compared to carbohydrate, but

PUFA was aggravative. Vitamin E did not protect against the effect of

PUFA at all, but partial hydrogenation *did* protect against both the

toxic and diabetogenic effects.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Oh great, so now I can't see what to avoid; partially hydrogenated or

fully hydrogenated. And is E protective against anything? I just bought

red palm oil for it's full spectrum E. I also just went to a talk where

a wholistic doctor just learned that anti oxydents were bad; that they

were only for the plant's protection and we eat them with no such

protection for ourselves.

Once again, white and black change positions.

On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:20 PM, Masterjohn wrote:

In the above-linked study, the toxic and diabetes-producing effects of

alloxan were directly proportional to the unsaturation of the fat in

the diet. Saturated fat was protective compared to carbohydrate, but

PUFA was aggravative. Vitamin E did not protect against the effect of

PUFA at all, but partial hydrogenation *did* protect against both the

toxic and diabetogenic effects.

Parashis

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[Guest guest]

On 11/2/08, Parashis <artpages@...> wrote:

> Oh great, so now I can't see what to avoid; partially hydrogenated or

> fully hydrogenated. And is E protective against anything? I just bought

> red palm oil for it's full spectrum E. I also just went to a talk where

> a wholistic doctor just learned that anti oxydents were bad; that they

> were only for the plant's protection and we eat them with no such

> protection for ourselves.

Some antioxidants are protective and some aren't. There is good

evidence that blueberries are protective. Red palm oil protects

against atherosclerosis in primates. I don't know if it's the vitamin

E or not. It is best to maximize the vitamin E in your diet if for no

other reason because it *might* be important, but it is not a

replacement for restricting PUFA.

Chris